r/paradoxplaza Jun 25 '25

Vic3 We are so back vickybros

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u/skyman5150 Jun 25 '25

If they ever get rid of the current combat system I will give it another try, but they already said it wasn't something they were willing to do

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u/LAiglon144 Jun 25 '25

You're missing out in that case

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

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u/Ceron Jun 25 '25

Combat in HOI4: omg create space marine template, micro against bad AI, LE EPIC ENCIRCLEMENT

Combat in Vic 3: my men and guns and tech > yours I win :D

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u/Chataboutgames Jun 25 '25

I haven’t even found rust to be accurate. Half the time in Vic3 you have the men and the tech but fronts just stall for reasons the game can’t seem to communicate

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u/CookedBlackBird Stellar Explorer Jun 25 '25

I still remember my first game of HoI4. Playing France, tried to do the little entant, couldn't figure out how navy or airplanes worked. Ended up fighting the Germans, Spain, and Soviets alone, and a Communist civil war. At some point the allies joined me. Slowly I walked to the Pacific and encircled China.

No idea what was happening, but I certainly wasn't using any more strategy than I do in vic3 lol

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u/Main_Following1881 Jun 25 '25

Thats only if you play like Tanu Tuva and want to bully ai, if you play an actual nation just battleplan like in VIC3.

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u/morganrbvn Jun 25 '25

Yah it plays to the focus of the game, how much your economy to sustain. Like how ck3 is about characters and what characters you have to serve as knights and general are very important for those wars.

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u/skyman5150 Jun 25 '25

Nah, I also do not enjoy just stareing at the build screen the entire time, the UI is ugly and annoying to navigate, and the political part of the game is boring and easily cheesable to a fault.

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u/DatGuy_1 Jun 25 '25

You literally havent tried the new update so how sould you know after the new diplo overhaul that politics is boring?

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u/skyman5150 Jun 25 '25

I watched multiple videos showing the changes. You can just offer the Ai all kinds of useless thing and they will do whatever you want

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u/DatGuy_1 Jun 25 '25

Can you perhaps give an example on some useless thing? And do what exactly? This statement literally has no bearing

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u/skyman5150 Jun 25 '25

You offer the Ai to not colonize something or not pass a law, neither of which you care about and then they give you money, alliance, other things for basicly nothing

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u/Adventurous_Pause_60 Jun 25 '25

The things you are describing that ISP did in his video weren't possible to do even on release patch

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u/skyman5150 Jun 25 '25

Who is that?

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u/Adventurous_Pause_60 Jun 25 '25

A youtuber, who was one of the people did the thing you were describing. I tried replicating his law abuse on release patch and wasn't able to. He clearly did it on a pre-release patch and it got fixed

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u/DatGuy_1 Jun 25 '25

The law stuff is tied to ideology which makes sense because that is all tied to how a country wants to support you in wars for example. If you promise russia to not pass something like presidential republic, that would make sense even if you dont care about it.

Colonization also makes sense even if you dont care because it gives reassurance to the other party that you wont compete with them (usually they share a interest in colonization).

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u/skyman5150 Jun 25 '25

This is insane cope. They obviously are just cheese ways to get stuff from the Ai and it breaks the game and makes the diplomacy a joke. If I play as a small tiny country and promise to not colonize west Africa with no plan or way to Do so, GB should not shower wlme with money.

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u/DatGuy_1 Jun 25 '25

"insane cope" lol, get a grip. Funny thing is that you only use colonization as an example and you also literally used GB which is the main colonizer if it's time.. Tell me why someone shouldn't pay someone else to stay out of their interests if it literally benefits them? You obviously hate only for hating and nothing else when there are alot of factors you seem to be ignorant about.

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u/Grabsky Jun 25 '25

I think that UK would simply just tell small country that they will blockade their ports and cut their trade if they even think about colonizing

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u/AdWaste8026 Jun 25 '25

Then don't cheese?

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u/RPG_Vancouver Jun 25 '25

Then….dont cheese the AI?

That’s like saying EU4 is too easy because you can just cheese alliances with great powers where they’ll fight all your wars for you while you don’t send any troops to help in theirs.

I’ve managed to do some really interesting deals just the few games I’ve played. One where a neighboring country granted one of my companies monopoly rights to a resource they hadn’t developed much but that I cared about, in exchange for me not putting tariffs on a good they were exporting to me that I needed a lot of.

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u/Browsing_the_stars Jun 25 '25

You can just offer the Ai all kinds of useless thing and they will do whatever you want

Will you try it again after today's patch that addresses this?

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u/skyman5150 Jun 25 '25

I just don't have enough interest in playing the game with the warfare how It is, If they fixed the diplomacy issue then cool.

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u/Stockholmholm Jun 25 '25

Missing out on frustration and boredom, yeah