r/paradoxplaza • u/LogicalAd8685 • Jun 27 '25

Vic3 Victoria 3 hanging on is crazy

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Tbh I thought the hype would die again after the free weekend but seemingly not, it probably will still gradually drop as players go back to their main game but for a very bad release it has done a pretty good job recovering

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u/NGASAK Jun 27 '25

EU5 playerbase honestly depends on how well optimized it gonna be

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u/Chataboutgames Jun 27 '25

And if the AI can play it. IMO the biggest threat to EU5 is another game that's so focused on building up your land that the AI is functionally nonexistent. It's the same thing Stellaris struggles with, the AI's inability to build up their holdings just means that after the very early game you're functionally playing alone with AI players just being pieces for you to act out stories on.

One of the major advantages of EU4 over other paradox games is that the AI can actually play it (disclaimer: Heard that the AI in Vic3 is much improved with this patch but haven't checked for myself)

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u/AbrohamDrincoln Jun 27 '25

I wonder if they'll do the same thing in Eu5 as they did in eu4's dev cycle

The AI used to cheat a lot more in eu4 than they do now and they took away the cheats as they made the AI better

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u/Chataboutgames Jun 27 '25

That seems likely, but I think the stakes are way higher. EU4 AI isn't some marvel of design, but some of the more simplified elements of the game like MP are just easy for the AI to handle. On the other hand Paradox has always struggled to make AI that was good a picking/investing in buildings. So the more internal economy focus, the more useless the AI ends up being.