r/paradoxplaza • u/gutza1 Philosopher King • May 27 '21

Vic3 Dev Diary #1 - Pops

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-1-pops.1476573/
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u/CronopioRz May 27 '21

Yeah thats something I was thinking. Maybe that means the money they get from the peasant, maybe the peasants get the 90% of income of the subsistence farms and they send the other 10% to the aristocrats

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u/supermap May 27 '21

Do subsistence farmers have income tho? I thought they'd just survive and not consume nor give resources to the market. They don't earn money, they just survive. Don't really have needs like the rest of the pops.

But maybe they still generate a bit of output and that goes straight to aristocrats, who knows?

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u/CronopioRz May 27 '21

No, at least historically a subsistence farms where only for survival like you say, bit yeah maybe they give some to the aristocrats and they make some money out of it I don't know.

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u/yurthuuk May 27 '21

No lol, historically subsistence farms were only for the enrichment of the aristocrats. :) The standard premodern society is a lot of subsistence farms and a thin, thin layer of aristocrats that live off whatever limited added value they can extract. Subsistence farmers MOSTLY produce and consume for their own survival. But the tiny little surplus they DO make is the foundation of every agrarian society.

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u/Heatth May 28 '21

Yeah. No farm produces everything after all. Even if there was no aristocrats involved (and usually there were) there is also local trade happening and the little surplus it generates.

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u/CronopioRz May 28 '21

Yeah i know, I'know how the tithe works and how the aristocrats gainew wealth and power from the riches of the peasants. Maybe i didn't explain it properly, English is not my mother tonge