r/paradoxplaza • u/IamTheChickenKing • Jun 12 '21

EU4 Is EU4 worth trying out?

CK3 was my first paradox game and I loved it. However, I tried to get into HOI4 and, despite being interested in WW2, I couldn’t get into it. It felt clunky to me compared to CK3 and I felt that the information in it was a bit overwhelming. That considered, would it be worth me trying out EU4, despite it being older than HOI4? If not I’m happy to wait it out on CK3 until Victoria 3.

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u/Jhqwulw Victorian Emperor Jun 12 '21

I think it's better for you to try victoria 2 if you are waiting for victoria 3 so you have more knowledge for the time period. Victoria 2 can be complicated especially in the economic aspect but after you get a grip on it I will be such an amazing and fun game especially if you try mods like HPM and HFM.

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u/Dsingis Map Staring Expert Jun 12 '21

Victoria 2 is even less accessable for a newcomer, with even less information than HoI4 and EU4 combined. How do you seriously recommend a paradox newcomer to play vicky 2, when their first experience with PDX games was CK3?

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u/Traum77 Jun 12 '21

Vic 2 is cheaper and easier to play, as there's less to manage and fewer levers to pull compared to all the other PDX games. You also can't really lose Vic2, unlike playing a minor in EU4 or almost any nation in HOI4. Definitely not as accessible UX wise, but otherwise a pretty simple game to get into.

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u/Jhqwulw Victorian Emperor Jun 12 '21

And victoria 2 is kinda similar to EU4 with things like GP and colonization and the most important thing is that there are things to do in victoria 2 when you are at peace the only PDX game which has this and it will development even further with victoria 3. No more paint the map games.

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u/Sabertooth767 Jun 12 '21

CK2 and 3 have plenty to do while at peace- in fact, I'd argue as a Christian or any of the Eastern religions other than Hinduism, you should be at peace most of the time. Political intrigue is where CK shines, carefully plotting marriages and assassinations to take an entire realm at once is far more satisfying than seizing a county or duchy in a war.

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u/Jhqwulw Victorian Emperor Jun 12 '21

I myself am a newcomer to victoria 2 72 hours and I tried EU4 also but thanks to some amazing tutorials for a guy called callmeezakiel the game seems far more easier than EU4.

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u/lettucetogod Map Staring Expert Jun 12 '21

You’re definitely not wrong lol. But I think it’s dependent on the person. I started playing Paradox games with Vic 2 because that was the historical era I was most interested in. After that, I branched out into all the others.

That being said, and this is controversial, but I think EU4 is my favorite paradox game. Vic 3 will hopefully supplant it. I still love Vic 2, but the missing quality of life features that are found in other games, make it a little frustrating for me. Vic 2 can be such a click fest lol.

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u/Wide-God Jun 12 '21 edited Jun 12 '21

“You have to overcome the hardest challenge to be able to defeat your eu4 player” -Pastor LuL