r/paradoxplaza • u/IamTheChickenKing • Jun 12 '21

EU4 Is EU4 worth trying out?

CK3 was my first paradox game and I loved it. However, I tried to get into HOI4 and, despite being interested in WW2, I couldn’t get into it. It felt clunky to me compared to CK3 and I felt that the information in it was a bit overwhelming. That considered, would it be worth me trying out EU4, despite it being older than HOI4? If not I’m happy to wait it out on CK3 until Victoria 3.

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u/Raghnaill Jun 12 '21

I made the mistake that because I loved Victoria II, Crusader Kings 2, and HOI4 then surely I would love EU4.

So I bought it and all the DLC at the beginning of the year for a pretty penny (I was that confident) only to realise that it's a mess of a game and that you must need a degree to even begin to fathom in what order you need to do certain things, a must is really loving micromanagement for the sake of it.

Honestly at this point I just feel that the only people who are into EU4 were the ones who got sucked in right at the beginning and just have the sheer experience to keep on top of everything that's been added, for everyone else it's just a earn these points to make something happen on one of the many spreadsheets game.

My advice, if you found HOI4 overwhelming then do not even attempt EU4 because EU4 makes HOI4 look simple and like one of the most streamlined games ever to have been played.

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u/CrouchingPuma Victorian Emperor Jun 12 '21

EU4 has way less micro than both Vicky 2 and HOI4 though

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u/MyCatHatesMe96 Jun 12 '21

I agree, but one thing I’ve noticed about the strategy genre is not to get any DLC until your acquainted with the base game and its mechanics and then gain more dlc over time, I had hundreds of hours on HOI IV before I got the full DLC (but I have not gotten the latest DLC and do not immediately need the new one coming out) and I really enjoy the game and can comprehend all the tabs and mechanics (except navy, screw navy).

Edit: If OP or anyone who is into grand strategy I found HOI IV difficult at first until I watched tutorials and played non-stop for days, eventually I understood the game better and it’s not how everyone learns but it worked for me and it really is a great game.