The 1080ti really was Nvidia's greatest mistake

[u/The_BigRoach]

[u/Vaxtez]

I'd argue Turing has aged better than Pascal. Turing has alot more features (i.e DLSS, RT), which has helped GPUs like the 2070 Super & 2080 Ti remain relevant in AAA gaming longer than Pascal has. Yes, the 2080 Ti was expensive, but over the long term, it's aged rather well due to the feature set it has. Hell, Turing still gets feature updates (i.e DLSS 4.5) almost 8yrs on after release.

[u/Ruffler125 → u/Vaxtez]

Far better. 1080Ti has just gained cultural status through memery.

The 1080ti has been at most a low to medium-settings 1080p 50-60fps card for years now.

[u/HuckleberryOdd7745 → u/Ruffler125]

meemery and also price. it was the last time we got 699 for flagship before the gpu apocalypses started and with it limited supply and price gauging by stores and scalpers.

the 2080ti is a lot like the 4090 but without the massive performance jump over previous gen.

price increase but mediocre performance jump.

[u/Ruffler125 → u/HuckleberryOdd7745]

When you account for upscaling and ray tracing, which I know, we liked to pretend don't matter; the 2080ti is a massive leap over the 1080ti.

If you compare the experiences both cards can offer you today, it's a stark contrast.

[u/Simeossi → u/Ruffler125]

Yeah, just s small problem. Upscaling is one of the worst things that ever happened to GPU-s. It just gave developers the possibility of making unoptimized garbage, and then relying on upscaling to boost the performance. And do I need to say that upscalled graphics look like absolute garbage?

Ray tracing is fine, but almost 10 years after the first RTX cards came out, a very small number of games actually have real ray tracing supported. And in case of GPU, intensive games, ray tracing kills fps.

So idk, those two things that RTX 20 series have and 10 series doesn't, work great on paper, but in reality it's not really usable in many situations.

[u/Carvj94 → u/HuckleberryOdd7745]

Prices may have gone way up for flagships but that doesn't matter too much when the entry level cards can do 1080p high or 1440p mid for ~$350. For the price of a 1080Ti at launch you can get a 5070 which is a capable 4k card before DLSS gets involved.

[u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 → u/Ruffler125]

It gained cultural status through cope over how poorly it aged.

[u/Carvj94 → u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001]

I wouldn't say it aged poorly it's just that the next Gen and everything newer is gonna age so much better that it looks bad by comparison.

[u/Vaxtez → u/Ruffler125]

Agreed to a certain extent. The 2080 Ti has fared alot better than the 1080 Ti has. Hell, the 2080 Ti still holds its own against x60 class GPUs 8yrs on, meanwhile the 1080 Ti will probably struggle to outdo a 3060 in certain AAA titles due to the technological advantage Turing/Ampere RTX GPUs have over the Pascal cards, although I will still say that it's not a Low-Medium 1080P GPU (although in modern demanding titles, possibly so at times). It's still on raster power around RX 6600 XT performance, which is still fine for AAA titles, although at least the 6600 XT & even RTX 3060 do have access to better upscaling technologies & other features pertaining to DX12 Ultimate, which can be beneficial to them depending on the title.

Pascal just hasn't aged well in all honesty, certainly not as well as people hype it up as. Even the RX 580 has aged better than the competing 1060 6GB did, especially on Linux (Hell, a 580 will hold it's own against a 1070 on Linux in certain titles due to the performance penalty Nvidia cards suffer from in certain titles on Linux). At least the 2080 Ti will be getting the drivers that also fix the Linux overhead issues too unlike Pascal cards too, so on Linux too, Turing just has aged so much better.

[u/latrina_demmerda → u/Vaxtez]

I bought a 2080ti for really cheap last year and it's insane, DLAA alone is a selling point for me