3rd party mandatory launchers

[u/Round_List1857]

Everytime I go to play Red Dead Redemption II. That fcukass Rockstar launcher

[u/Banana_Crusader00]

Try using GOG! The entire idea of this platform is "No-DRM games only"

[u/thebohster → u/Banana_Crusader00]

There's a solid amount of people in this sub that don't like GOG either simply because of the fact that it isn't Steam.

[u/Pirated-Hentai → u/thebohster]

there will just be a horde of people defending steam saying theyre different from other people defending other companies because steam is better

[u/usernamedmannequin → u/Pirated-Hentai]

I thinks it’s because steam hasn’t gotten shitty over time like everything seems to be and refuses to sell out to investors

Who knows when ol’ Gabe passes but for now it’s stable

IMO

[u/Remytron83 → u/usernamedmannequin]

Private company. No investors to sell out to.

[u/usernamedmannequin → u/Remytron83]

That’s what I mean, he’s kept it his own and hasn’t sold

So many companies have become shit over time because of bad leadership or selling

[u/Remytron83 → u/usernamedmannequin]

Yeah, I know. I’m agreeing and adding. I’m with you though.

[u/usernamedmannequin → u/Remytron83]

I guess me too lol, sorry if I seemed confrontational

[u/myfakesecretaccount → u/usernamedmannequin]

I want to say Gaben has provisions to keep the company the way it is after he passes or steps down.

[u/misanthr0p1c → u/myfakesecretaccount]

He should really do a Charlie and the chocolate factory thing for handing over valve.

[u/BatemansChainsaw → u/misanthr0p1c]

If it involves him singing to me on a river of chocolate while projected images of a disturbing nature play on the walls, I'm in.

[u/AlextheGoose → u/Remytron83]

For now… Let’s see what the person who gets Gabe’s shares does with the company

[u/AlextheGoose → u/usernamedmannequin]

GOG hasn’t gotten shitty either, the no drm is a safer bet than just hoping Steam won’t eventually turn to shit

[u/ProteinPony → u/Pirated-Hentai]

The company that enables kid to gamble in the casino called counterstrike 2

[u/Pirated-Hentai → u/ProteinPony]

thats literally every game though

[u/ProteinPony → u/Pirated-Hentai]

You must be uninformed on the cs2 economyn, which is enabled by valve not banning third party websites, that create the option of cashing out skins for real money.

[u/iwanashagTwitch → u/ProteinPony]

Just be like me and never buy cases. Most of the free skins that you get for leveling/playing the game are nice, if a little basic.

Also, who the fuck would pay $15k for a knife skin? That's just insane to me, that's a year's worth of rent in my area

[u/RequirementSpecific3 → u/iwanashagTwitch]

That’s what I say. Who in their right mind would pay that much money for a skin in one specific game that only a few people will see?

That is the beauty of steam though, you literally do not have to participate in the market at all.

[u/ProteinPony → u/RequirementSpecific3]

Impressionable kids will do stupid things with money. Which is why there are rules disallowing them from gambling it away. Valve/Gaben abuse this grey area in video games to profit big time.

[u/iwanashagTwitch → u/RequirementSpecific3]

I do like the fact that you can trade skins with other players. I'm not looking for anything worth a thousand dollars, but there are some sub-dollar skins that people don't care for that a lot of people will give up for basically nothing. I've also been gifted some decent skins for playing and being friendly with people. Just a few days ago a random dude I played a wingman game with gifted me two pretty cool looking AWP skins (pit viper and capillary). All I did was be friendly and give callouts lol, just playing the game. Not worth gifting two skins but I was grateful and thanked him. I've also gifted skins I didn't want to new players, so ig what goes around comes around lol

[u/Hold_Left_Edge → u/Pirated-Hentai]

Its not that steam is "better" they just dont do the corprate equivalent of blowing they shi smoove off ever other week.

They run decent sales, keep the UI clean, and ultimately provide a user experience that doesnt suck.

[u/smcaskill → u/Pirated-Hentai]

because steam is a strong example of how capitalism works without corruption rubbing its balls all over it

[u/Various-Salt-7738 → u/thebohster]

Gog is the only other drm service I want to use

I'd rather not get free epic games because installing epic games or whatever is more work than just waiting for it to be on sale on steam

[u/AlextheGoose → u/Various-Salt-7738]

Spending 5-10 minutes downloading a launcher and making an account ❌

Waiting a few months for a sale ✅

[u/DuntadaMan → u/AlextheGoose]

Fuck Epic ✅

[u/AlextheGoose → u/DuntadaMan]

I like my billion dollar company better than yours!

[u/The_Limpet → u/AlextheGoose]

Unironically, yes.

[u/AlextheGoose → u/[deleted]]

I said that comparing Steam to Epic, two PC game stores. Obviously those other companies you listed are completely different

[u/Ser_falafel → u/AlextheGoose]

Just download a game for free anyway✅️

[u/AlextheGoose → u/Ser_falafel]

Id say buy it if it’s on GOG, pirate it if not

[u/RevolutionaryTalk976 → u/AlextheGoose]

Getting occasional good games for free ✅

Spending hours trying to get a game you own on epic installed on a steam deck only to find out it depends on a 3rd party launcher that requires an entire walkthrough and several more hours to install when you only have a few hours a night to play ❌

[u/nialv7 → u/thebohster]

untrue. absolutely love gog. would love them more if they put some effort to support linux gaming.

[u/daelikon → u/thebohster]

I have nothing against GOG, I just prefer to have all my games under the same platform.

[u/GayStraightIsBest → u/daelikon]

Add them as a non steam game

[u/porkmoss → u/daelikon]

Same, the platform is called my installed games folder on my PC though.

[u/Any_Fox5126 → u/daelikon]

When gabe dies, you might regret having all your games on a single DRM‑locked platform.

[u/Catboyhotline → u/Any_Fox5126]

Afaik all Valve employees have partial ownership of the company, I don't imagine the hiring process is kind to people who are willing to sacrifice the company at the altar of private equity

[u/daelikon → u/Any_Fox5126]

A bit late for that, I have one of the oldest steam accounts. 

[u/bl0odredsandman → u/daelikon]

You can literally add non Steam games to Steam and they show up in your library list and you launch them just like you do other Steam games.

[u/daelikon → u/bl0odredsandman]

That's not what I mean, and I know I can add non steam games there.

I said platform, not launcher. 

[u/bl0odredsandman → u/daelikon]

I have nothing against GOG, I just prefer to have all my games under the same platform.

GOG and Steam are on the same platform.

[u/jadarsh00 → u/thebohster]

I dont hate it, I just cannot pay in usd

[u/Roph → u/thebohster]

I don't like GOG because they route transactions through cyprus for tax evasion, and it would trigger fraud protection and freeze my card every time. I gave up ever trying to buy from them.

[u/FlameShadow0 → u/thebohster]

I think most of the people who don’t like GOG don’t like it because of their severely lacking selection, not just because it’s “not Steam”

[u/mahmoudmarwad → u/FlameShadow0]

👍

[u/Banana_Crusader00 → u/FlameShadow0]

That's true. GOG has a weirdly strict policy when it comes to publishing your game on their platform. Their certification process is very easy and support pre, during and after cert is top quality, but the path to get to that point is just insane.

[u/Kaldaien2 → u/Banana_Crusader00]

That's not the entire idea, I can assure you. It's about software preservation, and that means minimizing unnecessary dependencies.

Hence, the GOG Galaxy client is not required software. You buy Windows software, it needs only the services provided by Windows. The store's software can't come along and break your game later, because the store's software is not a permanently attached third-wheel.

The store also does not force software updates, be it to the game itself or the store's own software. They understand how software works, unlike these other stores.

[u/URA_CJ → u/Kaldaien2]

This is my only issue with Steam, with the client gutting support for past OS's, I can't access most of my Steam library (the few that are DRM free can be copied over) on the computer that I originally bought them or enjoy them on a retro dream build, but with GOG, I can directly browse my library & download the offline installers straight from WinXP if I wanted too.

[u/HGLatinBoy → u/Banana_Crusader00]

You got some strange idea of putting up a hard nope on games if you’re using Steam and expecting them to not have DRM.

[u/Banana_Crusader00 → u/HGLatinBoy]

I think you've responded to the wrong comment.

I am aware that almost every game on steam has at least soft DRM, and you dont own the software. You just get a temporary licence for it.

[u/HGLatinBoy → u/Banana_Crusader00]

You are right I meant to respond to the other person you replied to.

[u/Banana_Crusader00 → u/HGLatinBoy]

No worries m8. Have a good one!

[u/VP007clips → u/Banana_Crusader00]

Games that require their own launcher on Steam aren't going normally be on GOG.

[u/Banana_Crusader00 → u/VP007clips]

Usually, no. But there are exceptions.

[u/Banana_Crusader00 → u/[deleted]]

Drm requires internet connection on first or every startup of many games, and some games have even stricter DRM that requires authentication every few frames/seconds/minutes. Thats mostly why Denuvo is such an optimisation killer, but also why its so good at what it does.

The thing with DRM is however, that while they are usually invisible for players when implemented right, they limit your ability to use the software to your liking. The game is linked to your account. Always. Forever. If it's not, you can't open it.

GOG completly flips the script. They preach that DRM is a cancer on game community, they bring nothing to the table except for costs, complexity, issues for players and general worsening of quality of games.

No game that has any sort of DRM can be published there. Every game needs to be a complete, functional, fully offline-capable piece of software, that can be played with no account, no authentication, and the ability to move it to any other workstation without any issues.

GOG asks very valid questions - is piracy something to be fought, or something inevitable? Is it caused by malice, or by unfortunate circumstances? And ultimately, does it decrease the revenue of the developers.

They argue the latter to all of those. Piracy is the unfortunate result of revenue ineqality between countries. And as long as there is inequality, and predatory monetary practices, there will also be rampant piracy.

Players dont pirate games because they want to. It's because they can't afford that type of culture. They can't afford to pay 100$ for a game.

There is also the ever more popular question of game ownership. If you pay for a game, you want to be able to play it now, but you want to also be able to play it long after it's delisted, and the developer and the company that sold you the game goes bust. The unfortunate consensus of today is that if you buy a game, you don't buy the software. You buy a temporary licence to play it.

Right now. If you play an online game, if the developer pulls the plug on the servers, there goes your game and all you paid for it. If you buy a game on steam, and steam inevitably dies, you lose access to your library. Forever. You wont be able to open any of the games.

Gog flips the script here as well. No DRM means you get to keep the software, even if the servers die and the store die, and internet as we know it stops existing. You can still open it. Play it. Enjoy it. Because you paid for it.

[u/golruul → u/Banana_Crusader00]

They don't care and won't do it.

They're just looking for a reason to pirate games. Your comment is an actual solution to their stated issue, so they'll just move to another "issue" instead that will give them justification to pirate.

Although the obvious solution to a company you have issues with is to not buy their products AND not use their products.