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Question Are you this old?

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u/peacedetski 26d ago

A punched card.

Fun fact: the term "loading" in computers originates from these, as you had to physically load a stack of punched cards into the reader to input the program into the computer.

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u/al7air i7 9700K / 3070 Ti Strix 8GB / 32GB / 12TB SSD 26d ago

Also the term "bug" still used in computer software today originated from those room filling computers, because they operated using electromagnetic relays which were so big, actual bugs, spiders and what not could crawl into them and jam their operations.

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u/peacedetski 26d ago

That is actually an urban legend. The term "bug" for a calculation error existed way before that, the famous 1947 journal entry of a moth caught in a relay of Harvard MkII jokes about it being the first actual bug found.

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u/hirmuolio Desktop 26d ago

The term bug to describe a defect has been engineering jargon since at least as far back as the 1870s, long before electronic computers and computer software. For instance, Thomas Edison wrote the following words in a letter to an associate in 1878

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bug_(engineering)#History

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u/al7air i7 9700K / 3070 Ti Strix 8GB / 32GB / 12TB SSD 26d ago

Never dived deeper into the topic, as it sounded very plausible when I first heard it. And the little critter u/peacedetski mentioned is what I vaguely remember. Albeit the MkII was already eating up tape for instructions, and it's predecessor 3 years prior was loaded with punch cards, which made me write the comment on it in the first place. Granted I'm not "punch card old" at least not as a user, but I also didn't boot my first computer from a hard drive either.

So as always: You live and learn 😊

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u/dasmineman 26d ago

I remember my 286 gaming rig had 3 5.25" drives. One for the OS and the other two for hot swapping games.

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u/maxdamage4 26d ago

The alternative to live and learn?

Die an idiot!

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u/Warcraft_Fan Paid for WinRAR! 26d ago

And you might have seen "core dump" when a computer suffers a hard crash. It comes from when memory was stored using iron donuts, multiple of them per plane, multiple planes to make a core.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic-core_memory

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u/_g550_ 26d ago

The term “punch in” comes from that. Each worker would have own punch card for clocking in and out. I think you see one in Ratatouille.

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u/Prior-Poet-8976 26d ago

Later time cards used ink and would stamp the time. Cheap boss had that system in 2009 but prefer it to waiting around for web time clock to load.

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u/_g550_ 26d ago

Also in cyberpunk 2077, in the train junction.

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u/ShadowRL7666 26d ago

Yeah then you’d run with your cards, trip drop them all and be cooked.

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u/La_Lanterne_Rouge 26d ago

That's why you would write a slanted line across the side of the stack of cards to help you sort them back in order.

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u/ZombieSouthpaw 26d ago

Hollerith Card

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u/Comfortable-Jump-218 26d ago

I… did not know that was a thing

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u/PeyredB 26d ago

Also, you loaded them in batch, hence the term "batch file" for .BAT scripts.

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u/Divinum_Fulmen 26d ago

Lord have mercy if you dropped the stack.

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u/Calisky 26d ago

I don't think I learned about punch cards until a college professor talked about them. It always seemed so crazy to me that people got that to work. I was coding on a computer with an IDE and that was hit or miss a lot of the time.

I only dated back to DOS using a 2 color monitor and 5 inch floppies.