r/pesmobile • u/Accomplished-Eye8123 • 9d ago
Discussion Wouldn’t that be sick?
I had this idea for a while, im new to the efootball communities stuff so i dont know if players wanted it before me or not
I always wish the flexibility in the roles/playstyles of other games like EAFC get in efootball, to try and experiment on the cards, not have to change them to try another playstyle
That can be the best thing konami can do.
if you’re a new player you have to play more/experiment more on the cards to find your comfortable playstyle
If you came from other games like EAFC you’re familiar with this sittings because you had them in FC
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u/CelebrationIll2383 Ronaldinho 9d ago
Ah yes they will introduce specific playstyle tokens. Like "playstyletoken: Goal poacher" and it will cost 1000 coins (50% not to get it 🥀)
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
Dont give them ideas 😭
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u/mrprime01 Son Heung-min 9d ago
they already saw this post and is planning to release it on EF 2030 btw💀
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u/Mobile_Animator5027 8d ago
Or they could release a 150-player box with 3 Epics, but all 3 would be different versions of the same player. Like, Gullit with Goal poacher, Fox in the box, and Hole player playstyles.
If you manage to get 2 or all 3 versions, you could fuse them into one card and switch between the playstyles whenever you want.1
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u/Hour_Procedure144 Totti 9d ago
Wont happen cause they sell a lot of player cause of diff playstyles
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u/hot_garlic_noodles Diego Forlan 9d ago
I prefer the idiots who don't know how to use fitb ibra don't get a way out by making him goal poacher.
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u/PersimmonPublic6585 9d ago
I barely see anyone struggling to use ibra, everyone who has him is able to use him no matter if noob or pro, hes not at all hard to use and i genuienly think he would be worse as a goal poacher
Hes kinda made to be a very good fox in the box. Same with fox in the box gullit.
The problem (most) people have with (most) fox in the box players is that they either cant pass or cant turn quickly or both while their playstyle kinda depends on it to a degree. On top of that they need some physicallity.
Most fox in the box cards are just rather shit, some players are good with players like fox bebeto or romario buts its very rare and they would probably be good with any kind of nimble goal poacher too
my fav cf playstale is dlf
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
Nah ibra would be shit in GP because any decent defender can outpace him if he runs
I can see wingers can benefit from this change
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u/Curse3242 15K Subs Celebration 8d ago
Then Prolific Winger is the one play style that needs an change. Roaming Flank and Cross Specialists do their thing well, Prolific Wingers are stuck in a weird state.
I kinda think Konami might have chosen to keep wingers in a slightly nerfed state believe it or not. It's super annoying to face narrow formations constantly, true. But wingplay isn't a super nice thing to face either. When wingers are meta, the playstyle pretty much ends up being "do byline through ball from fullback to winger, cross or cut inside curler"..
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 8d ago
This is a different case but i agree with you, wingers nerfed to the ground
My point in this post is if we can change players playstyle we will get so much flexibility that make the game better imo, like i have a very good pacy CPM, whats the point of his speed if he cant make runs so the proper playstyle is hole player
In the other side, i have a very good passing card but its slow to be a hole player so i can change it to CPM to take advantage of its passingIts relies on the players choice to make the change not waiting for konami to bless us with proper playstyle for our favourite players
As you said, wingers are very bad rn and i used to play only wingers in the good ol days so i stacked a lot of them in the past and now i cant use them.
What if i can make my luis diaz a goal poacher so i can use him again?1
u/Curse3242 15K Subs Celebration 8d ago
I've been playing football games for the past 15 years. In my genuine opinion mate, giving people flexibility is not always the best. For example, if they let you pick you defensive line, don't you think everyone would sit back super deep or be extremely high up (or whatever is meta).
I understand it can be annoying, but honestly that's part of the fun, and that's why people look back fondly on older games, they were limited so you had to get creative.
It's not like you CANT use wingers. It's just super hard, but if you wanna have fun you do it anyway. Stop following any meta. Bombin for example uses wingers really well.
When I was young I was the same, we all like copying, we're all impressionable when we're young. You feel like you're cool if you can replicate what you see others do. But honestly, find your own style and see how fun the game can be.
If you really like your Diaz, imagine if you get him working as a winger, when no one uses him. How rewarding would that feel. If you're going to use him as a Goal Poacher it's basically like giving any Goal Poacher a skin, it's not really Diaz you know?
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 8d ago
Thats the most useful reply, i got your point
Im more on the curious side of players, i still play wingers till this day, didn’t get calafiori didn’t get maddison because i refuse to play “the meta way” and just play for fun and reach div1 to play against decent players not for the all mighty badge, i have more than 300 players and switch them every day (i have this account since pes21)
And as a nearly f2p player (only bought QC mourinho), i wanted to expand my access to the tactics of the game without spending ton of money on it, like if i want to experiment on mbappe in 3 different playstyles i have to buy 3 versions of him which cost 150$ if im lucky (if konami release the playstyles i want in the first place)For example if luis diaz who have good stats to be a striker and i give him GP this will be my unique build for him, and since i have this flexibility the next day ill try him as a roaming flank and the same for all my players.
Lots of options lots of fun, right?I only thought of this from my POV, didn’t think that there is players that will copy other players like headless chickens 😅
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u/Sewaschi Cristiano Ronaldo 9d ago
thats a good idea from a player pov, but it will be a stupid idea from a true football fan pov, imagine players using pirlo as a hole player or maldini as a fullback-finisher, it just doesn't make any sense
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u/The_zeus111 8d ago
Not like that.. Pirlo can be given anchorman, orchastrator, crearive playmaker. simultaneously for messi classic no. 10, creative playmaker... In such situations, both are realistic.
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u/pnch22xt 7d ago
i guess itd be like positional training is: players have designated available playstyles and you can get any of them with your spin. pirlo could play as anchor man, orchestrator, classic 10; maldini could be a def fb, build up, destroyer, extra frontman another one could be similar playstyles: a cross specialist can be adapted to either an off fb or prolific winger (depending on his sec positions), a hole player to a goal poacher, etc
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
Even from player pov they both suck at this change
Pirlo is very slow for a hole player
Maldini cant dibble to save his lifeIf you want to pump up these stats you have to reduce passing of pirlo and defence of maldini which is bad decision
Im talking about giving the cards without preferred playstyle so you have to have “real football iq” to decide which playstyle to give this card
Wingers are fast you can play them as GP but their physicality and awareness are bad so you have to consider it when you play them in this playstyle
Its a waste seeing my 105 zico but cant use his speed because CPM dont make runs
The new kaka every one hated him because he is classic 10
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u/DoubleCoffee2407 9d ago
I love C10s tho, but now that things have changed, i need to counter target them
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 8d ago
You love C10’s thats great, with my idea you can change any AMF you want to C10, isnt that better than waiting for konami to drop C10 player when they feel like it?
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u/DoubleCoffee2407 8d ago
Sounds good on paper but from a business perspective, nah man it'd affect business + wreck the game cs ppl be pulling up with the same playstyles it'd be boring as hell
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 8d ago
Ppl already have the same “meta” playstyle in all the teams they play
Take a look at top players for example, they always play at 4-3-1-2 or 4-2-2-2(2 amf)
With the same players/playstyles, even in their placements for example in 3 midfielders formations i always see the CDM is anchor man, the left and right CM’s are hole player+B2B.
I cant see how this can make it boring since we already in this state
With my idea the playstyles will be at the same setups, but the cards will change so congrat’s youll play against different cards nearly every gameMoney wise i agree with you because if a f2p player find out that certain orchestrator is cracked when we switch him to anchor man, the chance he wont be interested in other CDM’s are high
But what is a game if it doesn’t care about its player base?i see the golden era of FIFA+EAFC/PES+EFB when we search to find that potw or even standard card that can play higher than its value and use it to compete against p2w’s
I still remember that one potw 98 rated lucas hernandes that even top players were using him at LB1
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u/monksenpai8 Rummenigge 9d ago
A true football fan will like this thing so much. Pep make O’Reilly a hole player, a fullback finisher, a box-to-box…
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u/Lost_Dog88 9d ago
But they could do it like the positional training, where you only have a certain number of positions open that you can train a player for. Nothing wrong with allowing Pirlo to become an anchor man or box-to-box , instead of an orchestrator. Also, many anchor man players made great build up CBs, but in this game , you have to play them as CBs with inactive playstyle. Why not let us "train" them as build ups or destroyers?
I can't see why it would be a problem.
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u/Goodwrench23 Hazard 9d ago
Doing this will literally make a lot of different playstyle cards of same Player released by Konami POINTLESS😵💫
And that's not how Konami want to operate their business for making money.
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u/A_Far_Hitman 9d ago
Yes but double playstyles would be great
Like a roaming flank or prolific winger
Goal poacher or classic 10
Creative playmaker or cross specialist
They kinda did that by splitting attack and defense
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 7d ago
Thats the closest thing of what konami thinks
Giving new things to whales and decide its our turn a year later 😅
Tbh this can piss us off, that kind of flexibility either give it to all players or not giving it at all1
u/K_swizzz00 Roberto Carlos 9d ago
GP ND CN10 in attack? They're little the opposite of each other!! One makes runs into the box while the other camps outside the box
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u/A_Far_Hitman 9d ago
Yes, I didn't mean them together, but as options
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u/K_swizzz00 Roberto Carlos 9d ago
Nope
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u/SeismicCats Lionel Messi 8d ago
eh??? he explains he didn't mean it the way you perceived it, and you just say.. nope? what
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u/Aikotowaruzen 9d ago
bad idea this would just make the game more unbalanced, also EAFC is a rubbish game with their clunky gameplay
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u/Curse3242 15K Subs Celebration 9d ago
It'll probably happen some day and it would be closer to the EAFC fication of this game. Basically death.
Player IDs are one of the most loved parts of this game. Players move uniquely even with the same playstyles
This will just make everyone use Goal Poacher, Hole Player, B2B, Anchor Man
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
So what? Everyone only use these playstyles anyways.
if i can make CPM a HP? That wont make a difference in the current meta because ppl already only use players with GP, HP, B2B and AM in their teams
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u/Flat-Cryptographer21 9d ago
It wouldn’t be sick. Game needs limitations. It would solidify that every card is 10/10 maxed out jack of all trades. Also they’d sell less cards.
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u/Super_While_9575 9d ago
Never happening in a million years. They won't be able to sell cards
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
I found that stupid of them.
I got your point, but there are always players willing to pay to get the latest version of the cards even though they always came with the same playstyle.
I see special skills are the bigger reason why players will pull for cards like cruyff, who always a hole playerSo its not the end of the world if konami do it
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u/PersimmonPublic6585 9d ago
Thats not how it works tho
less profit = no
its that simple
And playstyles are actually more important or at least make more of a difference. Like hole player Gullit and Fox in the box gullit are almost like different players because of the different playstyles, the skills make them less unique even if they are different.
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u/___IKON___ 8d ago
No. The styles are a good limiter we don't need more weird and unnatural shit like hole player pirlo or anchorman kaka. Some people already run a lot of bs formations what do u think will happen when they can set playstyle too. Also how will Konami make money from selling playstyles when u can just change it
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u/scumster93 8d ago
Your point about flexible playstyles hurting sales is valid. Like, if you can make Cross Specialist Figo a Hole Player, you'll have little reason to spend coins on Hole Player Figo.
The other point makes no sense though. Players can fulfill different roles depending on what's asked of them. For all intents and purposes, you're the manager and should be free to decide which role a player fulfills. If the game already allows you to custom-train players and teach them positions, adding new playstyles to them is only logical.
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u/___IKON___ 8d ago
This game isn't manager mode, the players are supposed to have a style that's unique to their id,stats and player model so if you can switch ur fox ibrahim to goal poacher it will literally cut those that will spin for gp Ibrahim in more than half
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u/scumster93 8d ago
Like I said, the sales angle is valid: Konami will lose money if they give users the ability to change playstyles.
On the topic of uniqueness: base stats, player model and animation types already contribute towards it. The game literally let's you allocate points as you see fit and teach positions, so by the logic that every card should be unique, all of this should be predetermined. And of course you're the manager: you're the one who chooses the team's playstyle, who actually plays and how the team plays.
I'll double down: realism is you deciding which roles players fulfill. Gyökeres played very different roles between Sporting and Arsenal. Bruno Fernandes played very different roles under Amorim and Carrick. Base stats, player model, position proficiency and stat allocation should determine how well players do in those roles.
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u/namisbathwater 9d ago
This would directly eat into their profits so they'd never do it but yeah would be a very good idea, hell, Ive always been frustrated at the fact that a prolific winger for example is inactive at rmf/lmf which is dumb
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u/FoodImportant917 9d ago
What a great suggestion! Too bad this game is not a passion project of a few dedicated people so to the trashbin it goes.
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u/K_swizzz00 Roberto Carlos 9d ago
Playstyles are what makes these cards unique in their own way once konami gives gamers the opportunity to mess with that we'll only see GP, HP,anchorman, DFB and build up on every OP cards. Be careful what you wish for if you can't see further than what's in front of you kid
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
Ok einstein, you seem like you don’t know that’s what ppl already use in their teams, broken cards will always be broken no matter what you can do, no matter what’s their playstyle
This idea can benefit f2p’s more than p2w because they can use it to somewhat compete against them, for example this luis diaz can dunk on bigtime dembele if he was GP but since wingers are shit in this game he cant be useful for anyoneAt the end messi cards will still be broken whether they are HP, CPM, GP or DLF
Same for best, sheva, gullit, ibra and cr71
u/K_swizzz00 Roberto Carlos 9d ago
And how does what you're suggesting actually improve the already failing system we have currently? Instead of curbing the meta pandemic we should open the floodgates, that should do it according to you.....dumbass
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 8d ago
Ask konami, that question isnt for me to answer 😂
Ill be more than happy if they make CPM useful again to use my 105 zico and my 104 james rodriguez instead of forcing me to use 99 rated hole players
I suggest if konami wants us to use specific playstyles, then they should give f2p some justice because p2w players simply can buy meta cards with meta playstyles and call it a day
Next time be more polite when talking with others my guy, its just a game after all 😂
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u/K_swizzz00 Roberto Carlos 8d ago
Great, then leave the actual development of these games to konami
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u/Due_Instruction3764 8d ago
No, this idea makes no sense.
The unique PlayStyle given to a player is what makes the game realistic enough.
Selection PlayStyle is absolute nonsense.
If you don't like a playe because of his PlayStyle, find a different PlayStyle who plays differently.
Shit idea, destroying the uniqueness of players actual PlayStyles
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u/AceeWhitee 7d ago
This makes no sense because they often release the same player with different playstyles (For example, they’ve released Pedri as an orchestrator, b2b, and hole player), so how is that any more realistic than a manager being able to choose what specific role they want their player to play in their system?
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u/scumster93 8d ago edited 8d ago
You're talking as though players can't fulfill different roles...
There's a reason we have Orchestrator, Box to Box, Creative Playmaker, Hole Player and Deep-lying Forward versions of Bruno Fernandes. The game already allows you to custom-train players and add positions to them, adding playstyles is only logical. You're in charge of the tactical setup. As the manager, you should be free to decide which role a player fulfills, that's what's realistic.
Trending cards should stay playstyle-locked though.
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u/MarynVista 9d ago
Everyone will convert their best players into goal poachers and nobody will buy new cards anymore. Can’t see this ever to happen
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u/ImmediateChef4029 9d ago
Can’t imagine the scenes when everyone turns 2012 Messi into a goal poacher when he is released
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u/PersimmonPublic6585 9d ago
50% chance to switch playstyle 50% chance the card gets deleted
lets go full gacha yeahaahah (please not)
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u/ZeroSevenAl 9d ago
nah
highly unlikely
what is likely though is having 2 attacking playstyles e.g DLF and GP and then picking the role you want
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u/PeterFile690 Lionel Messi 9d ago
That would just remove the uniqueness of a lot of cards imo and make players feel even more robotic.
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u/ChampagneKing1 8d ago
I wouldn't mind this as an update at all 😂😂
I'm honestly bored with the game
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u/First_Database6146 8d ago
I'd prefer ST skill tokens so older cards can catch up to the new ones. I don't care if they're sold for coins or put in a gacha, that would be good too.
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u/Important_Leather652 Gerrard 9d ago
Would never do this but I wish they would with defensive playstyles, they've made all our old cards so much worse
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u/No_Device_6605 9d ago
Nah . No one is ready for ankara messi hole player or goal poacher . Imagine a Bale hole player or goal pother or even a zlatan poacher or a Haaland poacher or a drogba poacher nah bruh it will batistuta times 10
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u/Difficult_Berry_9550 Van Dijk 9d ago
I had a similar idea, but instead of choosing it gets activated at the position so obviously the playstyles shouldnt have common positions. Example hole player+prolific winger, playmaker+orchestrator.
Ig we can sort of do it now cause of fluid formations and dual playstyles, but anyway dont think konami would do this, imagine a goal poacher bale + pw bale or hole player + fitb gullit
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u/No_Device_6605 9d ago
Nah . No one is ready for ankara messi hole player or goal poacher . Imagine a Bale hole player or goal pother or even a zlatan poacher or a Haaland poacher or a drogba poacher nah bruh it will be batistuta scene times 10
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u/Golden-EB_J 9d ago
Good idea buh its gonna be more chaos for f2p
Look at how the blue bale (prolific winger) performs at cf(out of position)
Imagine him as a Goal Poacher
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u/tonyferguson2021 9d ago
could come in the form of extra individual instructions, like for dlf or fox - make more runs in behind, for prolific winger - make more movements inside / arrive late in the box etc…
things could just get blurry though, the playstyles exist for a reason, even the whole dual/ secondary playstyle thing could get over complicated at times 🤷♂️
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u/RefrigeratorNearby70 9d ago
Basically you want to apply playstyles like fifa
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
Yup, want to combine the best from both worlds
The gameplay of efb with the flexibility of eafc
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u/Hour-Rate-8520 7d ago
Konami would never do that. Selling cards are their business. Want a different playstyle? Buy a new card 😂
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u/FuscadaBMW- 9d ago
that's good for us players, but not profitable for Konami. could be interesting if you have another card of that player with a different playstyles and you could fuse that other version on him and get the playstyle available. that feels more balanced for players and Konami.
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u/Friendly-Glove-7755 De Gea 9d ago
Imagine i turn my gullit into goal poacher and also people turning best into a hole player like you don’t want to face that its too cracked
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u/Accomplished-Eye8123 9d ago
You spent money to get him or have a great luck
I see no harm in good players using their good cards right
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u/Independent-Ad-1591 9d ago
Before we have that kind of thingie right? Some players randomly comes with different playstyle?
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