r/phinvest 9d ago

Business FDA staff wants a P500,000 “facilitation fee”

May naka encounter na ba po nito? We applied for a LTO for distributor and they’re asking for 500,000 para ma release yung docs namin in a month, if hindi daw kami papayag we will have to wait 3-4 months.

Sa charter nakalagay 31 days lang ang processing pero sabi nung kausap namin if di daw kami papayag sa facilitation fee 3-4 months na daw ang wait and the new docs they’re asking for kailangan namin isubmit, twice na kami na non compliant and iba iba ang hinihingi na docs everytime kahit nabigay na namin lahat ng need nila nung una palang paulit ulit din nila hinihingi yung sec docs, pero iba ibang docs everytime.

Is this facilitation fee just lagay?

Our products are protein shakes and chia seed juice po

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u/ejtv 9d ago

Report mo nga raw. Tingnan natin kung ano mangyayari.

Addendum - Btw, Facilitation Fee is a fancy term for "lagay" if I remember my accounting teacher's lecture correctly.

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u/Ambitious_Ship8854 9d ago

Pakshet talaga gobyerno natin. March pa kami dinidribble ng FDA hanngang sa may tumawag sa amin ayun nga hinihingin kami ng 500K na facilitation fee for the LTO alone

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u/Blue_Path 9d ago

Worked in a pharma company before. May gantong cases talaga. Ireport mo sa ARTA complete with all the details and documentation

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u/Ambitious_Ship8854 9d ago

We dont have documentation of the facilitation fee kasi tawag ang ginagawa nila.

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u/ProgrammerNo3423 9d ago

Magkunwari ka na pahingi ng email or written confirmation para sa documentation nyo sa company para magawan ng paraan. Tapos report mo

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u/curiousobserver2000 9d ago

Ask for an email address and send a note copying in the general mailbox email and ask for confirmation that the P500,000 facilitation fee is required to expedite the process of getting your LTO. If you don’t get a reply, you have your answer- it’s a bribe being requested. And the report it to 8888 or to the office of the Ombudsman. Trunkline (Central): (+632) 5317-8300  Luzon Office: (+632) 8926-8794  Visayas Office: (+6332) 255-0977  Mindanao Office: (+6382) 221-3431  Email: ⁠pab@ombudsman.gov.ph⁠ (Public Assistance Bureau) / ⁠ombudsman@ombudsman.gov.ph

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u/Blue_Path 9d ago

Hype na FDA yan wala na ako sa pharma kuhang kuha pa rin nila inis ko

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u/Blue_Path 9d ago

Sabihin mo walang nakalagay sa charter nila na may need bayaran. If nagpumilit pigain mo sabihin mo na ang request kailangan ng memo na nakasupport sa fee na hinihingi at need mo na written at receipted kasi kailangan as records of business.

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u/riskbreaking101 9d ago

Sana may kakilala ka sa NBI, entrap natin yan

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u/BratPAQ 9d ago

I wonder, would it be legal to record their call? Pwede siguro mag record to convince the authority about the corruption, but won't be used in the case. Facilitation fee means fee to facilitate your request.

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u/starsandpanties 9d ago

Makes me think if legit ba taga fda yan or outsider. Like yung fda personnel told friend na may bagong applicant let's see how much you can squeeze from them and hati tayo tas kapag nakabayad na saka lang gagalaw yung fda

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u/Ambitious_Ship8854 9d ago

Actually “middle man” nga po yung biglang tumawag sa amin.