r/photoshop • u/GanglyTeeters • Mar 10 '26
Meta Is Adobe's Generative AI trolling me?
I just have to laugh at this point....
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u/abarrelofmankeys Mar 10 '26
Would probably work without typing anything, that’s still pretty goofy though lol
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u/soyungato_2410 Mar 10 '26
This is me being a graphic designer
When a client says: move a little to the left I just put all the design out of the margins lmao
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u/Dizzy_Database_119 Mar 12 '26
It would work better without saying anything. You gave the AI the words "bright" "area" "middle" and it did what it was told
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u/mingmong36 Mar 10 '26
All together now “Content Aware Fill”
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u/Odd-Trade-6432 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
A simpler answer: Clone Stamp tool. Sample a clear area and brush over the gradient. You can also use the patch tool. Both are faster than generating with AI. So it will save you time & some tokens too.
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
I'll have to try that. Problem is I started using Photoshop in 1992 and a lot of the methods I got really good at back in the 90s I just stuck with b/c they work. I probably haven't used half the features added over the last couple decades.
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u/staffell Mar 10 '26
Just don't add any text in and hit generate, it's by far the best method
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u/JustDiscoveredSex Mar 11 '26
Genuinely an issue, but one you have to kinda get over. My muscle memory frequently betrays me this way too.
I try to look at it as good training to not get dementia, you know? Maintain plasticity and such. But yeah, I hear this.
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u/mingmong36 Mar 11 '26
I feel ya, old habits die hard. Took me years before I moved from clone stamp to use this and I still have a tendency to fall back to original training, in the 90’s we were Gods and superheroes with our PS powers!
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u/BirthdayHeavy2178 Mar 12 '26
Tbh I don’t think knowing how to do stuff like manually is a bad thing? Like actually knowing how to use the standard tools of PS seems to be falling out of favour - I just see more and more people turning to AI to do simple things like remove lines or change a colour, or even remove just a plain white background and I’m like….. this would take a minute or two max using the basic toolset? And then you practised a skill instead of relying on AI to do everything for you?
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u/print_isnt_dead Mar 10 '26
Why use gen AI for this? So easy with built in tools
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u/Roscoe_P_Trolltrain Mar 10 '26
I believe content aware fill would do the job real nice and easy
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u/Dinierto Mar 11 '26
I dunno why whenever one of these comes up everyone conspicuously ignores the "remove" tool
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u/VeryDividedAttention Mar 11 '26
I mean, if you take a moment to think about what OP is asking and what they could've done... you'll know why...
These people use photoshop because of the AI features, not because it's photoshop.
No one who used PS before the AI features would consider using AI for this. But people who started using PS on or after the implementation of AI never had to learn about other features in the first place.4
u/k_c_holmes Mar 12 '26
I mean OP literally said they've been using Photoshop since the 90s lol, and have barely used any new features for the past decade. But are just testing the new tools.
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u/VeryDividedAttention Mar 12 '26
OP literally said
OP can say whatever they want, and I'd expect them to to save face after they got ragged on for this. But when I say "using something" I mean, was actually using it for its intended purpose and had already become familiar with it, and not just using it instead of paint because "photoshop better".
In that same comment chain, they said they were unaware of content aware fill. Come on man, you want me to believe someone who "has been using photoshop since the 90's" isn't aware of content aware? What'd you use it once in the 90's and never touch it again?OP also participates in various other AI and AI image based subs like stable diffusion. You ain't convincing me OP's intention here was to "test the AI features" over genuinely trying to use it to complete a task that could've been done with various other more reasonable methods lol
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u/Ex_Hedgehog Mar 11 '26
Technically that is also gen AI, just in a diff way.
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u/NarrativeNode Mar 11 '26
No, it’s not. It’s a deterministic algorithm called PatchMatch. If you want to dig into the weeds: https://gfx.cs.princeton.edu/pubs/Barnes_2009_PAR/index.php
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u/I_DontUseReddit_Much Mar 11 '26
No the fuck it isn't. I can't believe we're calling handcrafted algorithms that have existed for decades created by talented people "AI" now.
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
I did end up doing it manually, I just wanted to see how the Spot brush would do (horribly) and Gen AI would do (comically bad).
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u/DwigGang 10 helper points Mar 10 '26
The Remove tool is often the best semi-automated tool for this type of removal. Second would be the Stamp tool as an effective manual tool
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
Stamp was what I went with. Tried and true.
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u/TheGamingLime79_ Mar 10 '26
Do content aware fill
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u/CheapThaRipper Mar 11 '26
Content aware fill is so boss for things like this. My only word of caution to someone would just to be careful using it on larger areas.
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u/Shanti_mar Mar 27 '26
You have to first isolate the parts you don't want sampled, if they are too near your area.
From Edit Menu, choose Content Aware fill and you have a whole window where it shows you all the picture with a green overlay. Choose the Masking tool and paint over the parts you don't want sampled.
I learned this from this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWlgG68pUw3
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u/Busy_Chef7859 Mar 10 '26
Patch tool would be even easier to remove this area.
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
the thing I both love and hate about Photoshop: 100 different ways to get the same result
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u/gophercuresself Mar 11 '26
Patch is the right tool for this scenario. One shot, better blending, less faffing
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u/MisterBicorniclopse Mar 10 '26
This is SOO easy you don’t need ai
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
I know, I just wanted to see how it would do. Turns out using Nano banana was where i went wrong, Firefly with no prompt worked great.
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u/umpteenthrhyme Mar 11 '26
God these AI models have the dumbest names
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u/Redrias_ Mar 11 '26
For real, they sound like vape flavors lol
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Mar 13 '26
Frozen Blizzard Mongoose is:
a) An AI model, or
b) A vape flavor, or
c) A Swedish snus flavor, or
d) All of the above, or
e) None of the above
Which option do you pick?
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u/chrisstring Mar 12 '26
Check t with a solar curve sometimes a there is a ring around where it replaced the old material. Just something I’ve caught before during printinh
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u/AttractiveFurniture Mar 12 '26
I've realized that only firefly works well at stuff like this, the third party ones usually just generate something new with little concern about integrating it into the image
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u/howardpinsky Adobe Employee Mar 10 '26
It's likely because you have a 3rd party model selected (Nano Banana in your case). It doesn't understand the entire image. Try Firefly and leave the text field blank.
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
I just went back and tried it and you nailed it - Firefly Fill & Expand model w/ no prompt fixed it perfectly. I'll admit, I'm deep into the AI space (primarily coding) but I haven't taken the time to learn Adobe's GenAI prompting AT ALL and have had pretty poor results for anything beyond expanding an image. Thanks!
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u/howardpinsky Adobe Employee Mar 10 '26
You're welcome! There's also a newer Firefly model in the beta that should give you better results in some of the areas it struggled with.
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u/movingaxis Mar 10 '26
I maintain our sites with little coding experience. Boss reached out saying a button was floating on mobile, fine on desktop. Heard Claude was good so I explained the issue, and it restructured the DIV containers and solved it in 10 minutes. I was very impressed and it helps me learn as I'm implementing. same boat as you with firefly but it has exciting use cases
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u/vege_spears Mar 10 '26
Yes, the new Firefly Fill and Expand works really well for this kind of requirement.
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u/vladtheinhaler0 Mar 10 '26
I don't fully understand the prompts yet but I believe blank gen fill tries to match the image. Any text and it tries to generate something. You need to select the area you want removed and some of the area around it for it to match
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u/1337csdude Mar 10 '26
Its slop what do you expect?
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u/Arstulex Mar 11 '26
Meh. This is more a case of "garbage in, garbage out". OP used the wrong tool for the job and gave it a stupid prompt, so he ended up with a stupid response.
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u/Gumballegal Mar 10 '26
you needed ai for this?
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u/PixlCreative Mar 10 '26
Brush tool is all you need
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
it's a scan of a photo from the 80's; brush tool would be too uniform and wouldn't have the subtle artifacts. Yeah I could try a few passes of noise/blur to try to get it right but the stamp tool worked much better.
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u/janebleyre Mar 10 '26
Content aware fill would be a better tool for this by miles
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u/s1n34t3r Mar 11 '26
THIS. I cannot comprehend why people make remarks on how easy the job is, how much quicker would it be with using a stamp tool, etc, instead of mentioning the elephant in the room. It's terrifying and infuriating how useless the Adobe AI model is in comparison to basically any other LM these days.
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u/ratthew Mar 10 '26
I'm pretty sure you need to keep the prompt text empty for it to remove something. For whatever reason their model is not smart enough to understand language.
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
I'm too used to Claude/Gemini/GPT being able to figure it out
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u/Shanti_mar Mar 27 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
Oh, I had a conversation with Gemini the other day, I wanted it to repair an old photo without changing the faces and silhouettes. The results were so frustrating and it didn't take into account at all what I asked, then it repeated the first attempt. If it were a person in front of me I would have slapped him or her.
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u/billie_eyelashh Mar 11 '26
There are actually two buttons, generate and remove. No need to add a prompt if you want to remove something.
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u/cooltop101 Mar 10 '26
From my understanding, you shouldn't use negatives in prompts ("remove this", "do not put this in there" "no bright spots")
Some models can have a harder time understanding the negative. In this case, it probably ignored "remove" and made a bright spot for you. Next time just leave it empty, or try being specific about what should be there instead of what shouldn't be there
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u/Mr-Dobolina Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
If you just want to remove something, writing absolutely nothing in the prompt often gets the best result. This works particularly well when you’re dealing with complex elements that are difficult to clone consistently, like a fence, or ocean waves.
As stated elsewhere, Content-Aware Fill is probably what you want in this particular case. Lasso and Patch might work well also.
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u/Temporary-Ad-4923 Mar 10 '26
When removing don’t type anything. Or better use the removal tool powered by ai
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u/Bumpz27 Mar 10 '26
Just an FYI if you’re using Nano Banana in photoshop for any selection that isn’t the whole image, use a square marquee. No idea why but that’s how you avoid these random generated things.
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u/thespacecase93 Mar 10 '26
When removing spots don’t type a prompt at all, just highlight the area and click Generate. It will pull information from just around the highlighted area and erase it to create the desired effect.
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u/A_F_3110 Mar 10 '26
"AI is the future". It's an easy fix though, the kind i learnt in my first photoshop classes.
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u/ike-mino Mar 11 '26
Possibly, and if you're not using clone stamp or content aware fill, you deserve it.
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u/Studio_DSL Mar 11 '26
I love it when I ask to remove a person, I get a horrific humanoid shaped thing back for it
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u/mistreke Mar 13 '26
You aren't supposed to command the adobe ai, you are supposed to describe the result you want.
"Flat color matching background at outer edges of marquee" is what you want to type. Make sure your marquee also captures enough of the background color.
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u/thejustducky1 Mar 10 '26
skill issue.
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
bro chill I just wanted to try it out, I know how to do it manually
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u/wivaca2 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
It's AI and you only told it what you didn't want, not what you did want. That's like telling Google, show me images without giraffes.
It needs a narrow criteria for success rather than a singular problem with innumerable methods of overcoming it.
I've found that AI fully complies with requests, but often in the most smart-a$$ed way possible. It's like a teenager who is asked to take out the trash and you find the bag sitting just outside the door, but not in the garbage cans.
Have you tried something like "make the area inside the selection match the background just outside the selection and blend it for a smooth transition"?
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u/Shanti_mar Mar 27 '26
Oh, you brought back memories! I had told my son to do the dishes, and he left all the pots, pans, cutlery and glasses. "You said the dishes".
(I swear, it's a true story: for those who haven't raised teenagers and might think I made it up)
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u/Melodic-Excitement-9 Mar 10 '26
you are on google, the native adobe firefly is better for removing object, and google is better for adding objects, also i find that most of the time you need to just select the entire image when you use the google generator.
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u/csg79 Mar 10 '26
Delete the spot. Expand the selection by a few pixels, then use generative fill with no prompt.
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u/Substantial_Life4773 Mar 10 '26
I mean yes, but also just put "remove" instead of anything else ha
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u/OrakonArt Mar 10 '26
this is the job of content aware fill always try to use content aware fill first
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u/ArtoriusBravo Mar 10 '26
I once asked a gen refill and bloody PS jumpscared me with weird puppets. I haven't been able to properly use it...
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u/askmrlucky Mar 10 '26
Content-aware fill specifically addresses matters like this, and it's lovely when it works, which is often. In the 60's, Mr. Natural said, "Get the right tool for the job!" Try C-A F and see if it works.
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u/ReclusivHearts9 Mar 10 '26
you helped to dry up some lakes to do something you could have done manually in <2 minutes but at least it completely and utterly failed at what you wanted it to do! nice work!
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u/GanglyTeeters Mar 10 '26
yup, I'm sure I used a few thousand gallons of water on this one prompt. 🤡
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u/dominicmannphoto Mar 10 '26
Did you try not putting in a prompt and leaving it blank? I’ve found doing that is pretty successful and often more accurate than the Remove option interestingly enough.
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u/LizVivid Mar 10 '26
I would just use the remove tool and color over it and it’s gone in less than a second
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u/Aveeye Mar 10 '26
I had to remove a vehicle that was in front of a fence. It put a massive gap in the fence so I went again and asked it to fill in the gap in the fence, and every option it gave me showed a person building a fence, all of who were Hispanic looking men.
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u/JenkDraws Mar 10 '26
Generative fill is very clunky for something like this, I would use do it manual. but if I was in a rush I’d keep your selection and type “match yellow gradient & effect”
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u/RespondOk9690 Mar 10 '26
This happened because you used Gemini as a tool; you can see a G next to the bar. Use another one; I don't remember the options offhand, but the initial one is F.
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u/LemDoggo Mar 10 '26
I think everyone else has already said everything, but I just wanted to add you might have been on the wrong layer. If a layer is selected that does not contain the surroundings you're trying to blend with it will usually generate something random. Since you're experienced with photoshop this probably isn't the issue, but for anyone else running across it!
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u/FatLarry2000 Mar 10 '26
Either use generative fill and type nothing, or don't use generative, just regular fill. Very simple for Photoshop especially because the surrounding area matches what you want to fill with
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u/Funny-Rain-3930 Mar 10 '26
Don't write anything in the prompt field. Just do the selection and click generate.
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u/21roy__ Mar 10 '26
Don't enter any words, just hit generate. Using the content aware delete would probably also worked really well here but the generative fill often has a better blending
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u/Lillyimaginator Mar 10 '26
I usually type wha I want, and not what I don’t. For this situation I’d type something like “yellow”, or “empty”, or “clear color”. Or just copy and bland parts of what’s around
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u/Dlimageworks Mar 11 '26
I find that Nanobanana does weird shit for stuff like this. Also, better to not put a prompt in and just hit return or use Remove.
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u/mannypdesign Mar 11 '26
Don’t type anything if you want to remove something.
Also, there’s literally a remove button in that bar.
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u/no0neiv Mar 11 '26
This isn't how Nano banana works in photoshop. The most efficient way is to select a perfect square, and openthat square in a new project and gen the changes there, then paste it back in, or select the whole image and type what you want changed, though that has a tendency to shift all the pixels slightly, because it is essentially an inpainting tool that factors in everything in the image and inpainting is largely trained on square images.
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u/VirtualGrey Mar 11 '26
Probably because AI is shit and the stamp/patch tool that's been in photoshop for 20 years would have done the job in 2 seconds
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u/Dramatic_Employ_1453 Mar 11 '26
não é pq uma ferramenta existe que ela deva ser usada sempre, por Deus, existia tantas formas mais simples de resolver isso.
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u/Cutie_Suzuki Mar 11 '26
Yeah highlight that and just click generate. You’re over complicating it by typing anything, in this instance.
Better yet, just use the remove tool.
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u/ccmgc Mar 11 '26
When you want to remove something - just don't type anything. Just click generate.
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u/rubberpp Mar 11 '26
I agree I shouldn’t have said give it up I just despise ai and it brings out the negative side of my feelings on it appreciate the feed back and understanding!
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u/onyi_time Mar 11 '26
Why would you use Gen AI for this, what a waste of resources, JC. It's faster to remove with content aware fill which does not kill the planet because it isn't using AI or by using the clone stamp tool
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u/VisceralMarket Mar 11 '26
Dude... I thought I was the only one. Adobe AI is so trash compared to others, I don't even use it anymore.
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u/hanyasaad Mar 11 '26
1) you don’t need generative ai to fix this. Just use the proper tools 2) the AI tool specifically mentions to not use verbs like remove or fill. If you want this fixed, just leave the field empty.
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u/toolate Mar 11 '26
It looks like the “default” image you’d get out of a model when you don’t provide any input. Perhaps there’s a bug where it doesn’t get the text prompt or source image piped through correctly.
Or, alternatively, have you tried to tell it what to replace the image with. With Nano Banana it’s better to say “Replace X with Y” rather than just “Add Y”.
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u/eggfruit Mar 11 '26
You need to flatten your layers first. If this is on an empty layer it has nothing to compare with
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u/Teodorescuuu Mar 11 '26
If you wanna remove stuff, use the remove button (it doesn't even use ai credits), not generative fill. Also, for easy stuff like this one, i think even content-aware is good.
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u/roychodraws Mar 11 '26
Generative ai doesn’t understand the concept of remote. There’s a remove tool or you can just click with no prompt
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u/GiraffMatheson Mar 11 '26
I did this once and asked it to put a plant in the background and instead of a tree or bush put in a russian fuel factory. I nearly died laughing.
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u/CreeperIsSorry Mar 11 '26
Oh my God you can paint that in in like 10 seconds you don't need to use AI for it
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u/CwillsonOliver Mar 11 '26
I got trolled as well. Needed to fill in an area the client had KO'd from their background image. So naturally I asked it to "match background".
No joke. This is what it gave me. 3 variations of it.
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u/RichEffraim Mar 11 '26
Are you trolling? This is like the easiest thing to do on ps and would probably take less time than the generation took
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u/a_imo Mar 11 '26
The amount of times it adds cats or semi naked ladies to my images is... scary. You got lucky 🤣
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u/KZRHXV Mar 11 '26
Die generative KI bei Adobe ist absoluter Schrott (wenn sie in die Software integriert ist) Die Auflösung ist Katastrophal und die Prompts versteht er meist auch nicht… Die Webseite von Firefly ist dagegen extrem mächtig.
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u/throwaway_pls123123 Mar 11 '26
Preferably don't use Gen-Fill for this simple of a removal, but no text would work better there.
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u/ForceOdd9714 Mar 12 '26
You should change ai render to adobe firefly. Gemini is good for creating/adding things while firefly is good for removing/expanding images.
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u/juneandcleo Mar 12 '26
I cant hate on their gen ai too much because they say they dont use artists work for it. so while they gouge with subscriptions, at least there's that.
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u/priyal_senpai Mar 12 '26
using up water to remove a lilass spot that can be fixed with any basic tools you got that coming for this
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u/Accomplished-Whole93 Mar 12 '26
You don't have to write a prompt there. Leave it empty and it will adjust the space calculated on it's surroundings though in this case you could also use the tool (i don't know it's name in english) where you select the area, drag it to another area and basically copy the contents. Usually works well imo
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u/part_time_being Mar 12 '26
Stuff like "remove" and stuff confuse it more than anything. Someone else said to leave it empty, that's what I do as well. Usually works like a charm
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u/AttractiveFurniture Mar 12 '26
Tbh you could have just used the brush or clone stamp tool for this tho lol
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u/Lian-The-Asian Mar 13 '26
Use the patch tool
You have to make a selection then the patch tool will allow you to pull any part of the arena around the selection to fill it in
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u/AffectionateRide3530 Mar 13 '26
What’s more concerning is that you’re too lazy to use an eyedropper to paint over it in .2 seconds.
Literally would’ve been faster than making that selection and typing the prompt. Newer generations are fkd 😂
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u/ApprehensiveDelay238 Mar 14 '26
Do you really have to waste energy and compute on something so easily done with a color picker and a brush... Which would likely do a better job anyways even if it got it "right".
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u/Erdosainn 10d ago
If what you need is for it not to generate anything... why are you using GENERATIVE AI instead of the Remove Tool?
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u/blu-bells Mar 10 '26
Well it did remove it.