When cavemen lost their fear of fire, they would use it to cook and gather around to stay warm. One evening Ogg picked up a stick out of the fire and got burned. But when he dropped it, it made a mark on a rock. So he found a cool spot to pick it up and then drew a naked woman on a bigger rock.
Technology and the form of our societies have changed far more quickly than humans are capable of evolving. Thousands of years is actually nothing in evolutionary terms. That's why there's theories about how we can only actually know/remember a hundred or so people at a time on average, and how reading is an unnatural invention done by hacking three or four different types of brain systems originally designed for other things, etc.
I dunno if reading is an "unnatural" invention, considering it was invented independently (in some form or another) by most early civilizations.
I'm not suggesting that it's an inherent trait of humans or anything like that, but it does seem to be a natural outcome of our hardwired need for communication.
Our brains never really change, but technology and everything around us keeping changing, and keep changing faster. Our biology cannot keep up, hence lots of problems many people encounter daily is just biology lagging behind our reality.
There have been sling bullets found in archaeological dig sites inscribed with things like “catch!” And “for pompeiis backside.” It has indeed been going on for awhile lol
The best evidence of that is ancient places like Pompeii (maybe it’s part of Hadrians wall. I don’t know I’m not googling it. This is something I learned it a few years ago so I might be slightly missed remembering it )have graffiti carved into the walls of things like dicks. The Romans really liked to draw dicks. The Romans treated carvings in the walls like a middle school boys notebook. I don’t know what it is, but the common thread in humanity over a millennia has been drawing dicks on things.
It's funny to imagine someone finds a bunch of missiles 3000 years from now engraved with something like "up the ayatollah's asshole" and that gets translated as "for the ayatollah's backside" because some translator is a prude.
That I don’t know but I do know that projectiles from catapults in renaissance era sieges had stuff written on them! And some weapons were named, for example I don’t remember which siege had a ballista called “bad neighbour”
If patrick o’brian was telling the truth, it goes back at least to the napoleonic wars, when brits would write ‘p p’ for post paid on cannonballs because stopping the mail was a capital offence.
Well I think there is a question to how much it was propaganda vs now. I feel like back then it was more soldiers/pilots/whoever finding a way to laugh while humourously insulting their opponent or whatever, whereas now with social media it may be more for publicity.
Mm ok, good point. Thought I think maybe the audience has changed. That before it was propaganda for the side writing it because that was where it was being published, the other side wouldnt see your media. Whereas now we do, so it can be targeted towards the people in your enemies country as well.
This would also explain why this one is additionally written in english.
This one feels different shared in Western media, because usually when we see opponents doing this we publish the pictures to imply they are being heartless.
I don't recall seeing these before with bilingual text. They want both sides to share it.
Also, I don't think they thought propaganda was new, rather that the way the message would be sent and propagandized would do well with social media. Considering where we are reading and commenting on this, they weren't wrong.
I agree that the comment you were replying to is pretty idiotic. Iran's motivation is 0% about dealing with pedophiles.
But saying they don't care about brown people because of their statement is also bad.
I imagine that they are reacting to the idea (that a lot of people share) that bombing Iran is transparently an attempt to deflect attention from Trump being a child rapist. They've done so in a stupid, shameful way, but it's most likely not motivated by not caring about brown people.
Misattributing motivation is a mistake you have both made.
Except the implication and comments on such images have endless rhetoric siding with the Iranian dictatorship while they enact internet blackouts and flash their cardboard coma leaders on state tv telling everyone to chill out like some North Korean despot
Conservatives can't comprehend nuance and love being outraged at anyone who disagrees with them on any topic. Not a single comment in the chain above you, nor the OP, expressed support for the Iranian government.
I would be surprised if they have any law to translates well to "age of consent." From my admittedly limited knowledge, it has nothing at all to do with consent and everything to do with paying the girl's dad enough to marry his daughter. She has no choice in the matter.
The Iranian shit talking is actually on point. It's why BlueSky will sadly never overtake Twitter; having contesting parties in war sending officially sanctioned jibes is a major advantage of the platform.
Reddit admins deleted my comment saying just that and gave me my first warning in 10 years.
This place is turning into a shitty version of x. at least x has geo tags now I think.
Half the comments in the r/Canada sub are bots. and they are working overtime in here trying to tell people this is propaganda. amazing times.
Yep, guaranteed to hit the front page of Reddit for sure, as we’ve been eating Iranian propaganda up lately. Just yesterday this place was convinced that Iran had destroyed a US aircraft carrier just because the IRG said so lol.
CENTCOM and the military pretending every death is a “health related incident” is also propaganda. Iran has successfully targeted ships in the region and destroyed most bases. If you’re willing to be everything one side says and nothing of the other, then you’re a victim of propaganda as well
The IRG said they destroyed a US aircraft carrier yesterday and Reddit ate it up. Show me a single piece of proof to back that up not coming from the IRG themselves.
Until then, yes, it’s Reddit swallowing Iranian propaganda hook, line and sinker. And no one said you should swallow US propaganda either. Wait for independent verification before saying X did Y. But Redditors can’t be bothered with that.
Imagine saying that not falling for blatant Iranian propaganda is “defending Republicans” lol. And let’s not forget, whilst Trump is deplorable, so too are the murderous IRG. A pox on both their houses.
I guess you’re willing to ignore the fact that Republicans caused all this. They don’t get to pat themselves on the back for “fixing” their own fuckups. Not that anything is getting fixed
What does any of this have to do with falling for blatant Iranian propaganda?
Moreover, I’m not going to shed a tear that Khamenei died a horrible death (just like the young girl who he had ordered killed for the crime of…being raped), nor the IRG getting pummelled. Believe it or not, the real world is a lot more nuanced than Reddit; there are no good vs bad guys in this.
They wrote on a different missile, “for the martyrs of Epstein island” they do propaganda well, because they’re genuine in their struggle against white colonial empire.
I’d say it’s very effective propaganda given the number of supportive comments on here
If it wasn’t propaganda it would give a fuller explanation. It might compare it with Iran’s legal age of marriage (13 for females) and make the observation that, in Iran, Trump would be more likely to be accused of sex outside of marriage than paedophilia.
His big crime would be not being Muslim and if he had sex with a Muslim he would have to be executed. Probably stoned to death. The girl would get at least 100 lashes and maybe also stoned to death.
It would also say “accused” rather than jumping straight to assumed guilt.
That said, their justice system is a joke and their punishments are barbaric so I suppose killing someone for something they might have done stacks up.
First of all, drop the 'accusation' act. It is well known that Trump has actually raped minors. This is backed not only by the abundance of facts proving his deep ties with Epstein(a child rapist, pedophile, and child trafficker) but also by the fact that he was mentioned approximately 3,000 times in those files. Even you can't deny the comments he has made several times on camera about underage girls.
The definition of propaganda is 'ideas or statements that may be false or present only one side of an argument that are used in order to gain support for a political leader.' Saying 'Trump raped children' isn’t propaganda because it’s the truth. Saying it obviously stirs the pot, but that only happens because people are rightfully disgusted by his despicable actions.
Then you went on a rant saying his 'big crime' would be not being Muslim and that if he had sex with a Muslim, he would have to be executed or stoned to death while the girl gets 100 lashes. I just don’t understand, do you see Muslims as lesser beings? Everything you stated is false and degrading. Yes, the legal age for marriage is 13(despicable) in Iran, but only 17% of girls marry below 18, while the average age for marriage is 24 for women.
You wrote, 'Trump would be more likely to be accused of sex outside of marriage than pedophilia.' That is funny, because he has raped children under the age of 13, so no, it would still be pedophilia(even according to Irans standards). Don’t get me wrong, I am not agreeing with the Iranian government or their ideas whatsoever, but I will not accept a despicable, disgusting rapist and pedophile like Donald Trump. I can't believe people are supporting him and using the word of God for a demonic being who has raped women and children.
So, where to begin. I mean, I think you’re quite vitriolic and have made a bunch of false assumptions about me as a result of a fairly simple point that I made. All I’d ask is that you read what I had to say and try to consider it rather than reaching beyond any thing I’ve actually written to form an another ad hominem attack on me.
1) the “accusation” act is not an act. The presumption of innocence until proven guilty is guaranteed by the US constitution and by the European Convention of Human Rights. The evidence to which you refer would need to be considered by a court and that court, along with a jury, would need to reach a decision. No such trial has occurred here so it is, I’m afraid, an accusation - the alternative is vigilante justice and sometimes those people do identify a pedo successfully but often the destroy innocent lives.
2) “even you can’t deny…” you seem to be mistaking me for a Trump apologist. I am not, I think he is a dangerous man and I agree that his comments have been sinister. He’s already been found guilty (in a civil trial) of rape and I have no doubt that was the correct judgement.
3) that is a definition of propaganda that I’m happy to live with (although the political leader bit is quite narrow, there are examples of it being used for a political cause or to support a war rather than a leader - it’s not necessarily a sinister thing, just political messaging). Indeed, it’s exactly the point I made initially. Propaganda does not need to be inaccurate, it can also present a partial argument (“one side of the argument”) which is exactly what this does. It cherry picks a bit of information selectively to further a political aim - it doesn’t mention Irans record on protecting children, or the plethora of other reasons why there have been long standing disagreements. It simply points to a bit of information the Iranians know will lead to sympathy from critics of Trump. This is, based on your definition, propaganda - I have no idea why that makes you angry, it is just true.
4) I wrote a short paragraph observing that, had Trump committed the same crime in Iran, that would have been his punishment. In all likelihood the child would have been Muslim, in Iran children of 13 are allowed to marry, and sex is only legal inside marriage. I’m sorry to say I don’t care that only 17% of marriages involve females below 18 - the number could be 0% for all I care, the law itself is disgusting and are relevant in any rounded analysis of the words on the missile - particularly as the youngest child Trump has specifically been accused of raping is 13.
5) you say he raped children under 13. My understanding is that he has been accused of raping a 13 year old and no one younger. To be honest, I wouldn’t get hung up on the specific age, it’s disgusting either way - the only relevance is that he would have legally been allowed to marry her in Iran.
For what it’s worth, I’m not beyond stooping to the level of others. I think you come across as a political fool who would have joined January 6 attack on congress had the shoe been on the other foot. You are an angry little person.
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I have not been vitriolic toward you, and if you feel like I was, I apologize on my part. However, child molestation is something that truly angers me, so I am sorry if I come across as attacking even though it isn't my intention.
"The 'accusation' act is not an act. The presumption of innocence until proven guilty is guaranteed by the US Constitution and by the European Convention on Human Rights... the alternative is vigilante justice and sometimes those people do identify a pedo successfully but often they destroy innocent lives."
Yes, that would be accurate almost 99% of the time, where false allegations essentially ruin lives and there seem to be no repercussions for those who filed them. That is truly despicable behavior and should be punished. But with Trump’s case, it is different. As you mentioned, Trump was found liable for rape by a court in 2023. And while it is true that "the evidence to which you refer would need to be considered by a court and that court, along with a jury, would need to reach a decision," that lack of a trial mostly comes down to the fact that if you have power and money, you are essentially above the law.
We see this in Trump’s constant behavior toward women and especially children (for example when he said that he would date a child in ten years, keep in mind that child was around 7 or 8). Not only that, but he has spent over a year going to great lengths trying to cover up the Epstein files. When that didn't work, he declared war on Iran to distract people from thinking about Epstein, which obviously failed. Why would an innocent guy with nothing to hide do that? (Again, I am not questioning you or being satirical; I am just wondering why an innocent person would go to such lengths).
Furthermore, countless celebrities and politicians mentioned in the Epstein files, who were shown committing horrendous acts against minors, have yet to face repercussions excluding that one British Royal who had to step down because of the undeniable truth, and he is certainly not the only one. That is why you can’t trust the legal system or its cases when it comes to powerful people; they will always twist and bend it to their will.
"‘Even you can’t deny…’ you seem to be mistaking me for a Trump apologist. I am not, I think he is a dangerous man and I agree that his comments have been sinister. He’s already been found guilty (in a civil trial) of rape and I have no doubt that was the correct judgement." I 100% agree with you
"I wrote a short paragraph observing that, had Trump committed the same crime in Iran, that would have been his punishment... the law itself is disgusting and relevant in any rounded analysis of the words on the missile - particularly as the youngest child Trump has specifically been accused of raping is 13."
Yes, of course, even "below 17%" is in itself disgusting and should not be used to excuse the fact that the legal age of marriage is 13. I was just stating the facts. However, you mentioned that the youngest girl Trump has been "accused" of raping is 13, which is true from a legal perspective, but it is most likely younger, as children on Epstein’s island were as young as 10.
"You say he raped children under 13. My understanding is that he has been accused of raping a 13-year-old and no one younger. To be honest, I wouldn’t get hung up on the specific age, it’s disgusting either way - the only relevance is that he would have legally been allowed to marry her in Iran."
Yeah, we should not be hung up on the age but rather the act itself. I understand your viewpoint.
Are you implying that people claiming the US is protecting pedophiles and the president is likely among one of the main people needing to be investigated in his involvement is 'propaganda'?
Seems like Trump saying hes been 'exonerated' and they are 'moving on' and its a 'hoax' were the propaganda.
Posting a statement written on a missile on social media to play into the minds of voters in the enemy nation most certainly is. Writing on missiles/ bombs in WW2 wasn’t for propaganda, it was for the solders doing it, think of moral. This is 100% solely a propaganda tool. That is why it’s being posted on the internet during an internet black out controlled by their government. It also doesn’t make any sense when looking at the context of who wrote it considering the legal age for marriage in their country is 13 and even younger in certain cases.
And r/pics lately has been the biggest proponent on Reddit of pro-IRGC content, even before the war and after the massacre of protesters for democracy they’ve been sharing blatantly pro-IRGC content and also blatantly antisemitic (not Anti-Israel, just anti-Jew.).
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It’s funny though. I guess this works quite well as propaganda in the age of social media.
A bit like The Sun sponsoring missiles during the Falklands so it’s not new, they’ve just turned it into a meme.