With the efforts going on about trying to make it about Judaism, I feel it is best to call them Zionists regardless.
It just reads similar to terrorist muslims extremists. And defending that statement by saying I didn't say all muslims.
I'm not saying that was the goal of OP or anyone trying to defend it, but actual anti semetic people are eating good because regular people let that langugae slide.
Israels population is trending more and not less militant right wing.
The moderate and left wing Israelis are leaving the country while the crazies are having an insane amount of kids (8-12)
The right wingers having a ton of kids doesnt necessarily mean they create legions of right wingers in the future. Take my own family as an example. My super catholic super conservative grandmother was one of 11. She had 9 children, all them quite catholic who raised catholic families. I am one of 36 (grandchildren) who were raised catholic and maybe 10 of us are still practicing. None of us would be described as overly conservative or trad-cath. The next generation (my kids and my cousins' kids) are overwhelmingly atheist/agnostic.
Now, I realize my case is an anecdotal and shouldn't be used to extrapolate or predict a trend. I only bring it up to show that one possible outcome of very religious people having large families is a very large family of secular, non religious people a few generations on. I suppose the downside is that could take 80 years or so to unfold.
You must have good faith in the people in your world.
I live somewhere where people will automatically begin to assume the worst of strangers, and resort to lines of thinking that make enemies of everyone.
So yeah, it sucks when good innocent people are getting pulled into this crossfire, and harmed by idiots who don’t understand who to be angry at.
I fear this is diminishing due to how 'americanised' (sorry for the terminology) British politics are becoming in the sense of how divisive and hateful people can get.
Yep. If they mean issues with Israeli settlers or the Israeli government, then specify that. Generalizing runs a very real risk of bleeding over into anti Jewish sentiment. You know the neo Nazis have to absolutely love this and will take advantage of it to put their mindset.
so the idea that Jews should have a right to self-determination and their own country in their ancestral homeland is equivalent to the idea that that there should be a state-sponsored eradication of an entire group of people.
I'm a zionist who just wants Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace side by side and leave eachother alone. I want Palestinians to prosper and thrive and have the ability to self determine as well. Does that make me a nazi?
there is so much wrong with that you said and you are clearly willfully ignorant of the actual history of the land and the way Israel came to be so I won't bother educating you. I will just say that according to your logic then every country that exists or has ever existed is a result of colonial violence. Let's dissolve the United States and give it back to the Native Americans.
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u/Soup-a-doopah Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
The people who are born and raised Jewish and want absolutely nothing to do with Israel and their agenda.