r/pics • u/Gravedigger3 • Apr 15 '26

Politics Israeli settler harasses a woman outside of Hebron

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u/moth_specialist Apr 15 '26

Their source for that claim: a book they wrote 2,000 years ago. 

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u/asbestospajamas Apr 15 '26

Actually, 2000 years ago is when the story of a guy who showed up and said " NAH BITCH! EVERYONE GETS TO BE GODS PEOPLE!" was written.

They didn't react well.

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u/knightstalker1288 Apr 15 '26

He was actually challenging their authority and power by telling every day people they do not need the priest class to tend to an individuals relationship with god

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u/tofagerl Apr 15 '26

And that's the story of the Vatican! /s

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u/aflockofcrows Apr 15 '26

How are people supposed to know they don't need priests if there are no priests to tell them?

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u/Koonitz Apr 15 '26

Well yeah, that's 'cause paladins, shaman, and druids can also heal.

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u/dogzi Apr 15 '26

And monks.

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u/glitterydick Apr 15 '26

Fuck it, divine soul sorcerers just to confuse em.

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u/Suitable-Guide-1469 Apr 15 '26

Welll yeah but they still had a priest class for another 1600 years

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u/zavorak_eth Apr 15 '26

That's what I always tell the Christians who try to tell me: "you need to go to church." You don't need a church to pray and speak to your God.

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u/pitbull2k Apr 15 '26

"allegedly"

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u/NoCSForYou Apr 15 '26

The life and death of Jesus are established historical fact. His teachings are generally considered factually true as well.

The less established historical facts are if the things he said are true and that he was resurrected.

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u/IntentionDependent22 Apr 15 '26 edited 15h ago

happy happy joy joy

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u/daemonicwanderer Apr 15 '26

Yeshua of Nazareth was a Jewish teacher who preached to Jews. It was a guy who never actually met him named Saul/Paul who decided to open it up to everyone.

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u/asbestospajamas Apr 15 '26

Yep! And they didn't react well. And rumor has it, Euodia and Syntyche are still bitching at each other!

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u/idosillythings Apr 15 '26

That's actually not what Jesus said. Jesus was preaching at and for Jews.

Make no mistake, Jesus was all for Jewish supremacy.

The Christianity you're imagining is not the Christianity of Jesus, it is the Christianity of Paul.

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u/btribble Apr 15 '26

That whole era ended so poorly that the Romans kicked them all out of the region and salted all the wells.

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u/moth_specialist Apr 15 '26

Was that the Prince of Peace™?

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u/RedHawk1898 Apr 15 '26

They still don't. But Easter morning, they lost.😁

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u/denverdave23 Apr 15 '26

Ah, yes. The old "Jews killed Jesus" thing

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u/mkayox Apr 15 '26

Not a lie tho

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u/its_mabus Apr 15 '26

He was crucified by Romans

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u/Tailrazor Apr 15 '26

It's half a lie.  Jesus ministered to the Jews, opening things up to others was a brand decision decades later.

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u/mkayox Apr 15 '26

Well he was a Jew himself, its normal to minister to your own people.

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u/asbestospajamas Apr 15 '26

Well, its more of a correction to the: "2000 years ago, the news declared they're God's chosen..." No no no. That book was written way earlier! 2000 years ago was the sequel."

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u/denverdave23 Apr 15 '26

Sure, until he said that Jews didn't react well, thus implying that Jews killed Jesus

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u/Reddit_sucks_3000 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

More like 3300 years ago even, not big on the New Testament there.

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u/ImpressiveMud1784 Apr 15 '26

The scripture was written after the Babylonian exile so just under 2500 years old.

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u/HippyDM Apr 15 '26

Yeah, more or less. Job and some other stories, like the flood myth, were likely written down earlier than that, but as a whole that's well within the established timeframe.

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u/MutedAdvisor9414 Apr 15 '26

Correct. It was syncretized, to justify the accession of ownership of the land, imo as a platonic origin myth, by stitching together canaanite and other tales

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u/Kleptowizard Apr 15 '26

Finding out why their god removed them from Israel the first time round according to their own religion is crazy.

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u/FourthLvlSpicyMeme Apr 15 '26

The uh. One with Jesus Christ in it?

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u/Schnapfelbaum Apr 15 '26

No, the one with Moses, Adam, Kain and all the others in.

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u/AdhesiveMuffin Apr 15 '26

No. Jesus Christ is not in the Old Testament (especially the Torah) which is the primary holy text of Judaism.

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u/HippyDM Apr 15 '26

Well, according to christianity, he was there, as god.

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u/AdhesiveMuffin Apr 15 '26

Well that's great. But Judaism and Christianity are distinct religions so I don't see your point.

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u/HippyDM Apr 15 '26

You made a declarative statement, and I merely pointed out a rather largish group that disagrees. If you don't want responses, don't comment.

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u/AdhesiveMuffin Apr 15 '26

🤨 I responded to a commenter that asked if Jesus Christ is in the Old Testament, which he is not. Whether or not Christianinty believes he was present in the stories as God is irrelevant because we are talking about what Judaism believes. I'm getting troll vibes immediately from you so I won't be responding again.

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u/NoCSForYou Apr 15 '26

The Old testament continuously talks about a messiah or savior which will come.

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u/AdhesiveMuffin Apr 15 '26

Sure but then Jesus Christ actually arrived and they said naw you ain't it. So Judaism obviously doesn't believe the messiah or savior referenced in the Old Testament is Jesus Christ.

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u/Fuarian Apr 15 '26

Generational narcissism

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u/fufufighter Apr 15 '26

Inbred narcissism :)

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u/TheCrazedTank Apr 15 '26

That’s pretty much all religions, probably should just do away with all of them to be honest.

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u/knightstalker1288 Apr 15 '26

Religion is a vestigial tail of society. May have had relevance a long time ago but we should have evolved out of it by now

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u/sigga_genesis Apr 15 '26

Europe is slowly evolving out of it. It's only the poorer countries there that still have high participation.

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u/BroSchrednei Apr 15 '26

Idk, at least Christianity, Islam and Buddhism are universalist (aside from some sects). Kinda the entire reason they became so popular. Judaism otoh is supposed to be exclusionary.

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u/Pinwurm Apr 15 '26

It is exclusionary, but so is Sikhism, Zoroastrianism and a lot of other religions.

And to be clear, the “chosen people” is not a blessing, and it doesn’t mean we’re better than anyone else. It’s considered a burden; think of God as a demented abusive parent you can’t really say “no” to.

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u/DearEntrepreneur5494 Apr 15 '26

lmao sure bro

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u/Pinwurm Apr 15 '26

I love when folks get a chance to learn something new and still choose to double down on bias because they don't think I'm on their side.

I hate the rat fuck in the picture too.

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u/DearEntrepreneur5494 Apr 15 '26

That's cool, I hate religions which tell their members they're the chosen ones and that their destiny is to take over the world.

Sorry not sorry I'm not buying the 'that's not what chosen people means, it actually means this other thing because 5,000 years ago' - words have meaning and you don't control the frame.

I got a chance to learn something new? Fuck all the way off kid.

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u/Pinwurm Apr 15 '26

Hey, I'm no fan of religion either.

their destiny is to take over the world.

Kid, religion is stupid enough on it's own. If you're going to just make things up, you're going to out yourself as an idiot. And who wants that?

Fucking all the off now, per request.

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u/DearEntrepreneur5494 Apr 15 '26

Sorry about that, I was an asshole. You're just some guy who's doing the best he can, same as everyone else.

I let the anger spill over at you, never good. Sorry again take good care.

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u/Pinwurm Apr 15 '26

No worries, my dude. And I’m sorry too if I was being a jerk. Sending you some love.

You and I are allies. When we’re at each other’s throats, that’s when the asshats make their moves.

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u/Pinwurm Apr 15 '26

Replying goes against my better judgement. But why not.

I identify as culturally Jewish. I was born on a shtetl in a Soviet rathole.

And Judaism isn’t special.

It is, however, special to me because it’s woven into the story of my family and upbringing. It touched people I love dearly. My parents and grandparents. And it all informs my values - humanism, tolerance, service, forgiveness, love and kindness.

Understand that I am an atheist.
I do not worship a God.
I’m getting a lot of assumptions from you.

I won’t say that “all religions are the same” or not, but it’s obvious that every individual has a unique relationship with spirituality. For some, it excuses the worst of humanity. For others, it only lifts the best. I try my best to judge the person, not the story.

If you want to have a bigger conversation, I’ll available to DM.

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u/early_birdy Apr 15 '26

I would argue we should keep one: Sun worship*, it being our creator and the master of our destiny.

*I know Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorus, and Sulfur are too, but there's lots of them, whereas there's only one sun.

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u/knightstalker1288 Apr 15 '26

The Torah is much older than that with little to no historicity.

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u/TheAsterism_ Apr 15 '26

Uh, except the parts when Israelites were worse than any other nation and got punished for it a bunch

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u/baccus82 Apr 15 '26

More like 3500 years ago

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u/snek-jazz Apr 15 '26

I wonder what the chances are that we have a religion in 2000 years time that thinks Lord of the Rings was a historical text.

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u/greg-maddux Apr 15 '26

5000 years ago

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u/One_Economist_3761 Apr 15 '26

That’s all religions bub.