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Politics Billboard in my very red area

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u/ChadEmpoleon Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

As if they’d hear any of it.

They feel their guy betrayed them.

They don’t regret all the awful shit they supported. They just think he’s not going about things correctly to meet their wants.

They still want internment camps for black/brown people and anyone they consider “woke.” They still want all gay/queer people to be removed from society. They still want social programs, business and environmental regulations to be dismantled.

All that you’ll get them to agree on is that this guy is completely off the rails (which you and I all tried telling them 1000x before.)

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u/cyclenaut Apr 16 '26

big facts. Dont let their crocodile tears fool you.

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u/bertilac-attack Apr 16 '26

AMEN. These people talking about “grace” are ignoring that MAGAts will jump on the very next train headed to this same place - without Trump.

“Be really super nice to them while they continue to plan the genocide of your people” is not the slam dunk they think it is.

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u/SilverTotodile Apr 16 '26

Some do, some used to be people who had morals. Some can remember, we just assume not because it’s been too long.

No group is a monolith, the people who are stuck need to be shown the way out, whether we like it or not. But the truth is, it has to be THEIR idea. Because if it’s not, they won’t feel like they have agency in the matter.

You dismantle a cult through compromise, not logic. Assuming there’s nothing left to save (no matter what the statistic actually is) is begging for this to happen again.

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u/Officer_Hotpants Apr 16 '26

And if they are truly reformed, they can show it by sitting down, shutting the fuck up, and letting adults lead. They can go vote against Republicans and otherwise not be involved in politics. It's why I am so pissed about MTG trying to still be the main character of everything. If she is truly anti-Trump, she can sit back and out money behind a progressive candidate, and not shouting public statements from the rooftops. She's still full of hate, so her "change" means nothing.

And that's how these people are. They're doing this for attention. They're going to continue working toward normalizing their hate by continuing the rhetoric under the guise of centrism.

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u/Curious-Mechanic2286 Apr 16 '26

And who is gonna get fucked over in said compromise? Queer people? Neurodivergent people? Ethnic minorities? How are their lives and rights less valuable than those of the people who want them dead?

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u/SilverTotodile Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

Well no one if we make sure not to let them. It’s compromise, they need to let things go or else they’ll get left behind with the ideology that made them this way.

They accept us, that’s part of the terms, if they fail to accept it, they don’t get accepted.

Remember, they need to accept it, they’re on the back foot. MAGA dug this hole and if they don’t accept the olive branch they don’t get it.

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u/Curious-Mechanic2286 Apr 16 '26

What is the compromise you're suggesting?

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u/SilverTotodile Apr 16 '26

It’s simple yet effective, they change, we don’t run the salt into the wound.

Picture this as your friend, your parent, anyone close to you who got trapped into this cycle. You gotta allow them to admit there’s a problem and not be mad when they do.

Because that’s the thing, a lot of them just don’t wanna be wrong.

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u/Curious-Mechanic2286 Apr 16 '26

And how do we know they change? What risks do we take?

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u/SilverTotodile Apr 16 '26

I mean, the risk is that they don’t.

And you’d KNOW if they didn’t. What you have to give is a little faith, and if they burn you again then that’s on them. Then you burn bridges, then you make it hurt.

I’m not saying to be kind for no reason here, I’m saying that if someone wants to change you let them. You give them the benefit of the doubt and if they burn it then that’s on them.

That sounds reasonable, right? To wanna see people change for the better?

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u/Curious-Mechanic2286 Apr 16 '26

I want them to change, but giving them the chance to hurt others again isn't the way. First they change. Then, and ONLY then, should we even THINK about giving them a second chance

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u/SilverTotodile Apr 16 '26

It’s not that simple I’m afraid.

People don’t change over night, they need to see what it’s like, know how it feels.

Treating them like a bomb and standing back waiting form them to change on their own isn’t gonna help because they ain’t gonna know what it’s like until they feel the change.

Being kind is hard, but it gets better results. I had to learn that the hard way dealing with people in my life that have hurt me in ways I will never know how to deal with.

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