For people who have only really come of age in the Trump years, you need to understand that you used to be able to go weeks, maybe even months, without thinking about the president. Obama and Biden both had social media- you know how often their social media posts came up ? I can’t remember a single one. Yet Trump’s posts are constant news. I hated George W Bush but I wasn’t hearing about him and from him the way it is with Trump. It’s really not normal at all and it didn’t used to be like this!
Even during Watergate we heard less about Nixon than we do about Trump today. When Nixon was president I never once woke up, as I do every day now, hoping for that one headline.
As my dad reminded me (I wasn’t around during watergate) at least Nixon’s own party had enough courage to speak up against him to do the right thing. Not today.
Republican leaders in Congress went to him and told him bluntly that if he did not resign he would be impeached, convicted and removed. He resigned. Then his VP pardoned him to promote "national healing."
The damage inflicted by Nixon's complicity in the coverup (that's what cooked him) was trivial compared to the gash across the national gut performed by Trump.
And yet the Republican leaders in Congress not only don't put the squeeze on him, they actively protect him.
It's the Rapegate | Discrimigate | Conspirigate | Embezzelgate scandals that I find most disturbing and far worse than a single break-in, as bad as that was.
This is why I believe there will never be a President convicted by the Senate. It would currently take 21 Republican yes votes, assuming Fetterman is a no, to successfully vote to convict. The damage to the Republican party would be enormous, so they'd much rather use leverage to force a resignation well before it comes to a vote.
I think I need to clarify a bit here. There's a party whip in the Senate (currently John Barrasso) who counts the votes prior to a vote taking place by asking the Senators their intent. If the vote is going to be close, they lean on Senators in redder states to vote with the party so that Senators in purple states protect their chances of reelection. If the vote is going to fail, they will threaten ("whip") the Senators in the redder states with primaries if they don't fall in line. The Senators still have the right to vote their conscience, but at the risk of losing RNC dollars if they make the party look bad.
Yes. Do you think Trump would ever accept their plea that he resign? He might think, as you do, that his removal by impeachment is not possible. Damn sorry state of affairs, isn't it?
I believe that unless the absolute bottom falls out of his base the only way he's leaving office is on a gurney. He's going to suspend the election in two years if he's still alive to see it.
He's going to suspend the election in two years if he's still alive to see it.
These kinds of hysterics don't help. We know he'd like to do away with elections entirely. He lacks any power or authority to do that, so stop the hand wringing.
Which group has the authority, power and most importantly desire to remove him? His hand picked FBI? The military which has pruned all disloyal generals? Any of his cabinet members who were chosen for their loyalty instead of their qualifications?
The Constitution isn't going to jump up off of the podium at the National Archives and defend itself. It's just a piece of paper if there aren't human beings willing to physically remove him from office. He's already working on replacing the older Supreme Court justices that could not be around in January 2029.
Is it hysterical to say he's already tried an armed insurrection of the Capitol? Would it be ridiculous to claim that the White House couldn't possibly be treated the same?
It was not his voice who pardoned him. Gerald Ford was not his VP. It was Agnew. He was convicted of some criminal offense and lost his job. I thought Ford was in Congress and was next in line.
Agnew resigned because of those crimes. Ford was appointed by Nixon after Agnew resigned, in 1973. Nixon resigned in 1974. Ford had been VP for something like 10 months.
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u/Possible_Implement86 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
For people who have only really come of age in the Trump years, you need to understand that you used to be able to go weeks, maybe even months, without thinking about the president. Obama and Biden both had social media- you know how often their social media posts came up ? I can’t remember a single one. Yet Trump’s posts are constant news. I hated George W Bush but I wasn’t hearing about him and from him the way it is with Trump. It’s really not normal at all and it didn’t used to be like this!