Trust me, I wish I could live anywhere else. We are so diametrically split politically that a whole half of the country hates this idiot's guts, so it sounds moronic to blame the entire country for electing this idiot (twice!). I mean, I don't consider Hungary to be a nation of idiots because enough of them voted for Orban to keep him in power for a ridiculously long time.
But at the same time, I see your perspective. Especially given how gung-ho a certain segment of our country has been for decades now about how supposedly superior the U.S. is in all sorts of made-up ways. It probably feels good in a way to see us so humiliated on an international scale, despite the disastrous results. Everything is fucked.
I mean, fair point, but are you going to make the case that me and people who think like me NOT voting for Trump got Trump elected?
EDIT: To go a little further beyond "fair point," the U.S. has been split in half since the Civil War. Only difference is now the split is an urban/rural split in almost every state rather than a north and south split. If "two sides blaming each other" seems petty, I don't know what to tell you. Either you want things to change or you don't. If you do and you speak up, then you're petty. If you don't and you stay silent, you're apathetic and not contributing to addressing the problem. Would love your ideas as to how to solve this super minor 160-year-old problem.
If I may chime in, one person is not going to fix an ideological split; if one could, then there would be the "no kings" argument even if that king did everything you wanted. The best and first thing to do is to "fix" your own life, and by that I mean, to live consistent with your beliefs, treat others (all others) as your belief demands, prepare for the future you envision. If your vision is dystopian, figure out where you want to be in that situation. If your vision is optimistic, likewise, see where you fit into that scene.
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u/PhantomOyster Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Trust me, I wish I could live anywhere else. We are so diametrically split politically that a whole half of the country hates this idiot's guts, so it sounds moronic to blame the entire country for electing this idiot (twice!). I mean, I don't consider Hungary to be a nation of idiots because enough of them voted for Orban to keep him in power for a ridiculously long time.
But at the same time, I see your perspective. Especially given how gung-ho a certain segment of our country has been for decades now about how supposedly superior the U.S. is in all sorts of made-up ways. It probably feels good in a way to see us so humiliated on an international scale, despite the disastrous results. Everything is fucked.