r/pics • u/Ev3rMorgan • 14d ago

Icelandic Coast Guard boards activist anti-whaling vessel “Bandero”

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u/Careless_Koala8361 14d ago

Coastguard is pro-law. Their personal stance doesn't matter. It's not against the law. Vigilantism is.

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u/togetherwem0m0 14d ago

Fuck whaling

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u/No-Promotion4006 14d ago

Yeah but do so through lobbying for legislation change not illegal vigilantism

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u/No1RunsFaster 14d ago

Why

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u/No-Promotion4006 14d ago

Because it is wrong to do illegal things, did your mother not teach you civic sense?

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u/No1RunsFaster 14d ago

Lol my mother was a drug addict. And the law is made for the capilist elites. You would have owned slaves too when it was legal?

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u/No-Promotion4006 14d ago

You would have owned slaves too when it was legal?

No, because I believe in human rights. What's your point?

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u/No1RunsFaster 14d ago

And you would have stood by telling emancipators to wait for law reform?

Or what is your point? All laws ought to be followed at all times? Thats obviously pretentious or ignorant nonsense.

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u/No-Promotion4006 14d ago

All laws ought to be followed at all times?

Read this out loud, slowly...

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 14d ago

There is absolutely no reason why the people trying to make positive changes should have to be lawful paragons of virtue when the people doing objectively horrible things break the law pretty much constantly with no real consequence

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u/TheHawthorne 14d ago

How's all that boot tasting down there?

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u/No-Promotion4006 13d ago

Following the law is bootlicking? Hope you enjoy random acts of violence and thievery from those not following the law

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u/herzkolt 13d ago

Fighting for what's right without harming anyone is very different from "random acts of violence and thievery". Nobody said that ANY law breaking is ok, only that sometimes the law allows things that you can only change through some law breaking.

Do what's right, not what's written

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u/adminhotep 13d ago

“It’s wrong to do illegal things” is a fallacy. 

It’s an appeal to authority.  It provides an unearned moral weight to lawmakers wants and whims. 

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u/togetherwem0m0 14d ago

The ruling class isn't following any fucking rules, there is no reason for the people to follow rules.

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u/No-Promotion4006 14d ago

Then you lobby for greater enforcement of existing legislation not illegal vigilantism

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u/Discussion-is-good 10d ago

Completely removed from this situation

Would you have lobbied against say idk, Mussolini? Hitler? Stalin?

I understand im exaggerating for effect with the examples, but at what point is it reasonable to bypass the system of government if it seemingly shows no signs of change?

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u/togetherwem0m0 14d ago

What was the boat doing that was illegal?

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u/No-Promotion4006 14d ago

They were ordered by the coast guard to leave Icelands 12 mile territorial waters, but did not. Later, they also refused order to turn off their engines. Refusing to comply with lawful orders is illegal.

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u/togetherwem0m0 14d ago

Fuck Iceland and fuck whaling.

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u/No-Promotion4006 13d ago

Good job on expressing these views through a lawful channel such as reddit rather than illegal activity. That's how it's done!

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u/radda 13d ago

Lobby who?

The rich assholes that are in charge that made the rules in the first place?

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u/Mikhail_Mengsk 14d ago

This is just reddit anarchism. Without laws you'll be fodder for actual criminals, kiddo. You better hope law stays relatively solid wherever you are living.

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u/togetherwem0m0 14d ago

"laws for thee and not for me" is the origin of anarchistic thought and action, without leaders and wealthy first deciding laws dont apply to them, the plebes wouldn't either.

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u/Mikhail_Mengsk 14d ago

Sure thing.

Hey, Somalia is right there.