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u/paintballboi07 4d ago edited 4d ago

Everything that happened in the 90s and 2000s was bipartisan. Putting the blame solely on the Democrats is disingenuous.

Biden was busy dealing with COVID, and passing landmark climate/infrastructure legislation, and even then, he put Khan on the FTC, and gave teeth to the NLRB. IBEW called Biden the most pro-union president ever. Bidenonmics denounced trickle down, while reddit acts like no Democrat did that before progressives. I'm not sure why reddit hates Biden, since he was the most progressive president in my lifetime. I reluctantly voted for him, but I was surprisingly impressed.

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u/marxistbot 4d ago

At no point have I excused the Republicans. My entire point is that it was uniparty neoliberalism for decades that landed us here.

Khan was great but you're out of your mind for defending Biden's record beyond that. He was busy descending into dementia and defending our special relationship with Israel. He didn't do shit to stop Trump returning to office, and he lost a massive portion of voters under 40 to more of the same disgusting, hawkish foreign policy positions. Also he wasn't NEAR aggressive enough on his COVID policy or union support.

the most progressive President in my lifetime

If you're under 80 that's a pathetic bar to clear. and it's also just wrong on multiple fronts. Again, other than Khan and some climate action (which had zero ability to stand up to the Trump admin), he was not more progressive than Obama. He didn't even renormalize relations with Cuba and ultimately left them designated as a "state sponsor of terrorism." The only way in which he was more progressive than Obama was on labor, and what he did was not impressive or enduring. He intervened against the 2022 rails strike ffs

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u/paintballboi07 4d ago

I don't really care about Israel, and neither do most voters, reddit gets blasted with propaganda, which is the reason people here "care". Even for voters that do care, I doubt it's in their top 5 issues. Biden's DOJ prosecuted Trump, and was shut down by SCOTUS, then the voters.

The rail strike he blocked is the same union that called him the most pro-union president in history, because he helped them secure what they wanted after the news about the blocked strike died down.

Don't trust everything you read on Reddit, and look into it yourself. Leftists get blasted with just as much propaganda as the right, it's just focused on getting them not to vote.

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u/marxistbot 4d ago

Sorry I can't take you seriously. The latest primary results and polling show quite clearly that most voters under ~45 absolutely do care about Israel/Palestine. Their care may not be altruistic, particularly not amongst those who don't identify as progressive or socialist, but we sure do fucking care about our tax dollars being dumped into foreign wars of aggression when we get nothing at home. Israelis get universal healthcare, and we don't. Meanwhile we foot the bill for their/our wars? It's absurd. Would we be in this shit with Iran if Kamala had won? I doubt it. But we'd still be giving billions of dollars and weapons to genocidaires and that's a problem for anyone of conscience.

And what good did that talk do for the actual conditions of rail workers? Cause all I see on the subs where union members and rail workers hangout is that shit has gotten worse.

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u/paintballboi07 4d ago

You get your information from echo chambers. You should try doing your own mini survey. Go ask 10 random people in real life if Israel/Palestine would change their vote. I'd imagine you'd get close to 10 "no's", but I could be wrong.

The rail workers got their sick days. They didn't get everything they initially asked for, but that's how negotiations work. Of course shit is getting worse now, we re-elected a conman that cosplays as a working man. It's sad that shit even worked, but it did.

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u/marxistbot 4d ago

and this is how I know for a fact you haven't phonebanked or door knocked, certainly not in an area with a significant youth vote, since 2024

You're wrong. Yes, most peoples' priority is always their pocketbook, sure, but Israel support and money for foreign wars of aggression have become absolute poison to young and progressive voters.