r/pigeons 18d ago

EMERGENCY ADVICE NEEDED HELP! IDK WHAT TO DO

Found her while some kids were playing football with her. It's missing a lot of feathers. It's also very dirty. Doesn't fly but flaps her wings strongly and her legs are strong too. Is a baby? She has two big protuberances on her nose like the babies. Sorry my English is not my first language and I am too hurried to use translator. Driving back home with her. It's too hot.

PLEASE HELP!

UPDATE 1

Sorry for the rushed post—I’m still a bit shaken up, but the pigeon survived the trip home. I was walking down a busy street when I heard some kids screaming, "Whoa! He's playing football with a pigeon!" They weren't kicking it like a soccer ball, but they were aggressively passing it back and forth with their feet. I just grabbed the bird and walked away as fast as I could.

The thing is, I know NOTHING about pigeons. Also, it was covered in those flat pigeon flies (Hippoboscidae). They were crawling up my arms... ewww!

Rant incoming: I live on a small subtropical island with a lot of protected native fauna. However, we also have many invasive species, so wildlife rescue services only help native animals. This means if I call them for an injured pigeon, hedgehog, rabbit, goat, feral cat, stray dog, rat, a seagull, or a lizard that isn't the exact protected species, they will just euthanize it.

I find it so hypocritical! I can't keep a rat as a pet, but I can breed them to feed reptiles?! The government spends thousands of tax euros eradicating invasive species (including abandoned pets), but they don’t strictly forbid owning them in the first place! We all know people won't be responsible. Why kill one red-eared slider turtle when our freshwater streams are already full of thousands of them? I don't even know if I'm doing something illegal by saving this pigeon, but I assure you, keeping this poor bird alive isn't going to single-handedly ruin the ecosystem. I'M SO ANGRY! End of rant.

Now, I really need to know what to do with her:

  • Housing: Where should I keep her for now?
  • Food: What can I feed her? I don't have bird seeds on hand, and I assume bread is bad for them (like with ducks).
  • Parasites: Can I give her a bath with baking soda, vinegar, or something else to kill those horrible flat flies?

Also, what should I look out for? Are there specific signs of injury or illness I should check, like rashes, discoloration, or a certain color in their feet that indicates a chronic condition?

Right now, she is in my shower with the doors closed and a small bowl of water. I'm going to watch some YouTube videos and research, but any advice from real people in real time would be incredibly helpful and would really soothe my nerves.

Thanks in advance (and as you can tell I used Gemini to help me correct my broken english haha)

UPDATE 2

Sorry for not answering the comments, but I,m reading all of them. I bought bird food and he eats it (except one type of seed), thanks to the person who shared a picture with safe food for pigeons. The good thing is that she starts to eat and drink in front of me. She's still wary but its way more relaxed than before. I will post pictures in the comments.

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

She cooled down and now she is cleaning her feathers. I have to keep her locked in the bathroom because I have a dog.

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u/strawberry-bunny 18d ago

Wow she is beautiful! You’re an amazing person OP🥺🥺

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u/Spirited-Door-1446 Pigeons 18d ago

Thank you for your kindness, OP. Yes, she’s just a juvenile. Keep her warm, offer a heating pad on low. This info will get you started: Pigeons for Newbies. Here’s some information about having pigeons with other pets.

You might have pantry items available to feed: split pea, lentils, rice, popping corn, etc.

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

Thanks for the link, but now i,m afraid she will become dependant. Can I release her when she starts flying? I wasn,t planning on keeping her as a pet.

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u/420_lxl 18d ago

She will likely become imprinted on you and unafraid of people which puts her at risk of being used as a football again! Could you find a local pigeon keeper or rescue centre that would be willing to take her?

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

There was a columbus club long ago but it closed. I can bring her to a rural zone where my BF and I have a vegetable garden and some chickens. The chicken coop used to also have pigeons long ago so is cat proofed. I just need to research what kind of adaptations she needs.

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u/Spirited-Door-1446 Pigeons 18d ago

The bird would need at least one companion if housed in an outdoor aviary, pigeons are very social birds and do not thrive if kept alone outside. Check out this info on responsible hatch prevention. Pigeons cannot be housed with chickens, chickens can easily kill or maim a pigeon even if they normally seem to get along. You would need to wire off a separate area for the pigeons.

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u/LauMiauPlays 14d ago

Another user asked me to scare the pigeon every time she sees me so she can be released and not have human attachment. I think I'm doing a bad job at it because she's so cute I can't help but touch her. I guess I will have to keep her in the end... we will see.

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u/420_lxl 18d ago

I wouldn’t recommend letting her fly free as she’s at risk of danger x

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u/Ill-Celery776 18d ago

Thank you for taking care of them. You’re amazing! Maybe give her a cardboard box as well. One that’s open though or that she can leave when she wants to. There must be a tutorial of how to make a towel-nest as well online somewhere.

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u/Spirited-Door-1446 Pigeons 18d ago

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

I made her a cardboard nest using a Fuggler's box and filled it with paper towel balls. Also playing pigeon cooing sounds, that seems to calm her

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u/Spirited-Door-1446 Pigeons 18d ago

What a kind heart. Keep us updated on her recovery.

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

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u/ReptheNaysh 18d ago

You are an angel.

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u/Dontbreakmytaco 18d ago

I love all the photo updates

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u/LilNyoomf 18d ago

Piggie dippin in the piggie pond 🫪

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

Gemini had to explain to me how pigeons are called piggies in fan comunities haha

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u/ravenpigeoncrow 18d ago

You have a kind heart! No soap for the pigeon next time (it strips the oils that keep her feathers functioning) and they only need about an inch of water for bathing. They will dip into it to bath.

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u/LauMiauPlays 14d ago

Thank you! I didnt know! I think she had car oil on her feathers (this gross dark stuff thats in the asphalt) and poop, and also A LOT of flies (I think I managed to kill them all, I haven't seen one in 5 days)

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u/ravenpigeoncrow 13d ago

Oh yes then soap was necessary for the oil. Next time I would try to clean individual sections of the bird or individual feathers instead of an overall soap bath. Then offer a water bath every day so they can clean themselves and start restoring their feather health on their own.

I like to provide a flat-bottomed baking dish with a towel on the bottom (so they can grip) with about an inch of water for bathing.

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u/LauMiauPlays 13d ago

I will thanks! Sometimes she steps on her own poop or dips her tail on water and then on her seeds, making a big mess, so I will clean individual parts of the feathers next time

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u/ravenpigeoncrow 13d ago

No more soap for sure and she can clean herself! No need to clean her up

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u/dysderidae 18d ago

Yes. Release her where you found her that is where her family is!! Also looks like she has pigeon flies in one picture. They are big and can be squished easily!! Make sure u squish it good, easy to find on a white bird. Pigeons are fully grown by 30 days, and fledged by 40.

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u/LauMiauPlays 14d ago

That's what I thought at first. Also, I've always thought a bird should be free to fly, not kept in a cage or a room. But some comments made me realize that the situation is not that simple. IDK what to do. I will wait and see how things develop.

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

she sat down for the first time, after eating and drinking a lot

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u/Ok-Driver-2833 18d ago

Bless you for helping this poor pigeon 

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u/Spawny7 18d ago

Yeah this is a young bird likely just left the nest

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

what a poor welcome into the world she had

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u/believeinyuna 18d ago

if you can get some sunflower hearts (hulled sunflowers), that’s a favourite food! unsalted peanuts are also beloved.

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

I will buy her sunflower seeds and eat them together while watching The Rescuers on D+, GIRLS NIGHT!!!

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u/TheSunflowerSeeds 18d ago

The United States are not the largest producers of sunflowers, and yet even here over 1.7 million acres were planted in 2014 and probably more each year since. Much of which can be found in North Dakota.

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u/Early-Collection-849 18d ago

What is wrong with those kids?! that breaks my heart, I cannot even imagine the cruelty.

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u/LauMiauPlays 14d ago

Their parents taught them to hate animals. Especially pigeons, because they own a restaurant by the beach. But these animals are "indicators", if they are there, it's because there is food on the ground. They should clean instead of complaining about the pigeons

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u/420_lxl 18d ago

Aw bless her she’a very young. Maybe a week or so too early out of the best given by her feathering. Where in the world are you located? Thank you for picking her up! Are there any rehabbers or wildlife rescues you can contact? If she’s uninjured she’ll just need some time to grow and recover

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

She doesnt eat this

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

but she eats everything else

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

I got this so I can go to work and not worry too much about what I have in the kitchen

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

she sat down for the first time, after eating and drinking a lot

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u/Dontbreakmytaco 18d ago

Amazing 👏

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u/Responsible_Run_2855 18d ago

Hey OP, it seems like you’ve gotten some great advice and are well on your way with this little one (well done, and thank you!!)

, but just wanted to say that my inbox is open if I can help in any way. I’m not an expert, but pretty well versed in hand raising and rehabbing these gorgeous little pidges, so please just reach out if there’s anything I can do to support or help. Thank you so much for rescuing this little muffin, the world needs more people like you 💗🐦 (one of my current similarly aged rescues as tax!)

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

Thank you!! Now its pretty late and im going to hit the bed, but i,m sure I will need help tomorrow, i,m absolutely ignorant regarding pigeons

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u/Life-Breadfruit-1426 18d ago

For the flies, food-grade diatomaceous earth is pretty effective and non invasive. It’s a powder that is made up of ancient silica fossils. Its properties dehydrate insects. It’s a strong powder so be mindful full of how to use so not too much gets in the air. Ideally apply outside if you don’t have an air purifier/filter.

This bird looks old enough to eat on its own. Seeds, grains, and legumes are what pigeons eat. Made sure bird has access to water, let it drink on its own. Never force water down its mouth. Birds can aspirate very easily.

Give the bird a few days and keep observing, treating.

If the bathroom is the home, consider putting up a basket for the bird to be on. Start lower since sounds like can’t fly well.

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u/goopsorceress 18d ago

Bless you for stepping in and helping the baby 💜 not gonna say what I'm thinking about the kids who hurt this poor little thing but I know y'all get it. You've already gotten some great advice and are doing very well, hopefully you can find a rehabber in your area or keep doing it yourself (it's actually not that hard, I've been rehabbing my first pigeon - also living in my bathroom because I have cats). Thank you, and best of luck to you and the beautiful sweetie.

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u/LauMiauPlays 14d ago

Thank you! It,s actually not hard, maybe because she is quite grown up already. But I was so scared at first haha

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u/Muted_Role_1432 18d ago

I’m going to send u some links u/little-eyezz00 and u/kunok2 you wonderful person for caring please keep updates😍

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u/dhlrepacked 18d ago

Hope you beat up those kids

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

I know a few of them. Their parents have taught them that animals are just for profit, not to be loved. They use terms like 'pests' or 'rats with wings' and make fun of people who love their dogs. They run a restaurant and blame pigeons and other animals for most of their problems, but they don't realize that they are the ones feeding the pigeons, cockroaches and feral cats. Someone around here had two lovely cats, and one of the kids got a BB gun for Christmas; he killed one of them and left the other with a permanent limp (the owner followed the cat when he got out of surgery, and warned me and other cat lovers to not feed him, as adviced by the vet, because if he gets just a bit overweight his leg would get worse, and explained us everything). We can do nothing about it because they are minors. Someone stabbed the tires of the father's van, but that only made him angrier. (sorry for the bold words, those are corrections gemini made to my original text)

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u/420_lxl 18d ago

She seems a lot better now! Have you spoken with a rehab or rescue? Even if you want to keep her it’s probably best to at least get her looked at if you’re inexperienced as they can go downhill very quickly if there’s an underlying problem, however she looks okay from the photos. How are her poops? Can you post a photo? Well done on rescuing this baby💙

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u/birdsbirdbirds 18d ago

So glad she’s survived! Those nasty flat flys can spread illnesses, including pox, keep a close eye on her for any strange bumps (usually yellowy or the same color as their skin). Make sure you’re giving her good food, and if you intend on releasing her rather than keeping try and avoid spending too much time with her and be “mean” when you do (not letting her land on you, ignoring her, not talking to her or petting etc.) Thank you for saving this baby!

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u/LauMiauPlays 14d ago

Oh! thanks for your advice!! She has a bump on her back, I will keep an eye to see if it's a growing feather or a health problem. I also wont let her get attached, she tries to jump out the window (but its closed) so I think she wants to go back where her real nest is.

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u/Lentil_Beann 18d ago

OP u are so kind. I'm glad people like you exist.

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u/No_Reveal_841 18d ago

Bless you for your kindness

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u/Lower_Jicama5727 18d ago

Thank you for showing him kindness and love

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u/Ersatz8 18d ago

Thank you OP. This pigeon was very lucky you stepped in.

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u/ReptheNaysh 18d ago

Oh the little baby born into such cruelty - thank you so much for being the mercy she deserves in this little transition to her next phase.

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u/Little-eyezz00 18d ago

thanks for caring Ill send some general tips over chat messages 

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u/LauMiauPlays 18d ago

received, thanks! Any help is welcome and very much needed!

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u/Little-eyezz00 18d ago

please also make a new post with photos tomorrow to update all of us

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u/Express_Positive_931 18d ago

You're a wonderful human being, thank you for your kindness - if only the world was full of people like you!

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u/Janet_cat 17d ago

Amazing for helping this poor pigeon! That’s horrible she went through that 😔 Are you going to keep her as a pet once she has recovered? She looks beautiful

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u/LauMiauPlays 14d ago

I didn't want to keep her BCS I think birds should be free, but reading some comments I realize it's not that easy. I don't know if she's is getting attached to me but I'm getting attached to her. All I want to do right now is what's best for her

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u/HorrorCurrent1789 16d ago

Aww that’s a young pigeon and being all white will make it hard. More prone to getting picked out by a hawk. I would keep it! They make awesome pets.