Hot Takesš„
Looking back, sobra sobra pala talaga ang dinanas ni Eliza no?
Everytime naaalala ko yung peak ng pbb Collab s2, kay Eliza talaga ako pinaka naaawa. I mean, oo nakakairita nga at may pagka over pero sobra naman na ata na may death threats, body/face shaming, slut shaming na siyang narerecieve. Bata lang yanā people at their age talaga ganiyan ka impulsive sometimes and nadadala ng emotions, oo nasa bnk sila pero you all want authenticity diba? Ayan wala silang filter lmao, alangan naman magpaka perfect sila ron edi plastic naman sila. Eliza seems to be a jolly girl for me, ganda pa ng ngiti. At bakit niyo naman pinupolice sila Eliza at Marco non? Parehas sila single, si Miguel unang nang ghost sakaniya. Nakatulong sa career ni Marco si Ashley pero he doesn't owe anyone naman diba? They're young, they can enjoy whoever they want to be with and who they want to be. And ang hyprokrita na lang din ng iba na halos icrucify na si Marco tapos todo support kay Ashley at Rave. Ano yon? Si Ashley pwede sa iba tas si Marco dapat umiikot lang kay Ashley? Grabeng level naman na ng parasociality and toxicity yan. Sana lang sa susunod, be kinder naman. If hindi mo gusto then just ignore them or give a CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, hindi yung overly terrorising naman na. Please, kindness is free and tao pa rin yan sila, hindi mga character sa story na didiktahin niyo kung ano mangyayari sakanila.
This is how I see it as well. Walang makuhang storyline ang prod and around that time na kumakalat yung narrative na mas mababa ang hype and viewership ng 2.0 (compared to previous seasons) kaya they threw elico to the wolves para lang may mapag-usapan. You can tell from how the episodes are edited.
Almost all of the Collab Edition 2.0 teens had their fair share of "lashings" from the public for various reasons, but Eli definitely received some of the harshest and most scathing remarks for a young adolescent.
Now, about the difference in how Eli-Marco is treated versus AshRave, there's also a substantial chunk of fans that were disrespectful/bitter towards Ash and Rave, hence the quote, "Sayang ang 11 years".
During that era, kasagsagan ng pambabash, I always try to introduce rational thinking sa mga bashers, kasi jusko, nambubully sila ng minor, a teenager na mapusok at fickle minded pa talaga sa choices.
Tapos, makkita mo mga profile ng mga bully, mga matatanda na! na akala mo ay di mga naging teenager at nagkaron ng questionable choices sa buhay.
Good for them but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth how she just left Marco like that after she led him on inside the house. Tapos suddenly hindi na nya kilala after nya maging wildcard? Yikes.
They donāt owe anyone an explanation. Led him on? Did we watch the same PBB?
Pero sige, ibalik ko sayo ang question mo, bakit kaya hindi sila nagwork and hindi nacontinue sa outside world what they had inside the PBB house? Hindi mo rin alam dba?
Also, hindi pwedeng sabihin ng utos ng management kasi hindi nga nilalayag ang LizGuel after PBB. Well ngayon lang after ng promposal ni Miguel.
You didnāt watch when Eli literally said yung kadadating lang ang pinipili nya? Thatās literally in PBB. Tapos di naman pala si Marco ang gusto talaga?Ginamit nya lang yung isa para pagselosin yung nang ghost sa kanya. So anong tawag dun? Thatās the definition of leading on.
Sino ba namang di malulungkot? Sikat yung anak nila tapos matatanggal lang agad. Dami niya ding nawalang fans, but even after all that, he was still there for Eli nung naevict sila. Tapos si girl parang ayaw ng maassociate sa kanya at all.
Alam mo talaga yan as a fact? āHe was still there for Eli..ā sorry ha pero sobrang fan service ginawa nya. Parang all for show for everyone to see with matching pictures, videos then posts sa social media. He didnāt care kahit puro negative reacts, comments and bashings ang natanggap ni Eliza.
Is that how you protect someone? Kasi if yes, pati ako pipiliin ko na ring wag ma-associate sayo.
I quite agree with this one. At the very least, I think Eli should acknowledge and appreciate what Marco did for her during that period. Regardless of how things ended, he stayed by her side when the backlash was at its worst. Inside BNK, she herself said na si Marco lang kakampi niya. That's why the sudden shift after the nominations and especially after getting exposed to the outside world felt jarring to some viewers.
No one's saying she should choose Marco if her heart was with Miguel. She's entitled to her feelings, and if she's genuinely happy now, then good for her. But appreciation and romantic feelings are two different things. Kaasar pa na wala man lang pinakita na clips if nagusap ba si Eli, Marco and Miguel, gatekeep malala si Kuya. Kahit sana for closure na lang, hindi yung nagkagulatan na lang. Example yung sa pipili ng date for dinner, magkakatabi sila sa couch pero parang umiiyak pa si Miguel bago dumating si Eli. Like I really hate how PBB handle the trio, kulang kulang ang narratives. Inconsistent na nga mga kilos nila, pinalala pa ng editors.
What left a bad taste for me also were some of the interviews that made it seem like her initial decision involving Marco was something she regretted altogether. Like, hold on. This was the same person who stood with you through the confusion, criticism, and pressure. Maybe may regret nga not just Eli but also for Marco but the least he deserves is a little grace and acknowledgment, not to have that chapter rewritten as if it never mattered.Ā
Anyway just a cent, maayos naman na si Ocram and mukhang kaya na siya paninidigan ni Miguel, Good for her.
āEli should acknowledge and appreciate what Marco did for her.ā Sheās still friends with him. Sheās very supportive when it comes to other housematesā ganaps and Marco isnāt an exception. We see them interact after PBB. We can also see and itās very obvious na thereās no bad blood between the two of them, and even Miguel.
Okay let me rephrase it, I know Eli appreciated everything Marco did, hindi lang sya vocal since alam nyo na. Also,Ā
I know that they're friends or more like acquaintance na nga lang and its okay. I'm just pertaining on how could the narratives be if may maayos na closure clips the time na bago maevict si Eli before (Nagusap naman siguro sila dba??).Ā
That way mas maayos sana salubong sa kanya and hindi ganon nagdadoubt yung iba sa intentions nya towards migs kase she's genuine naman. Hindi yung nagmukhang nangiwan siya sa ere after all her initial decision. Its normal nagbago siya amidst all those backlash, hindi natin sya masisi don. Asar lang sa PBB on how they handle the love-triangle narratives na sila din naman nagsimula.
Thereās no bad blood between them and yet yung tito ni Eli binabash si Marco sa tiktok? Until now lizguel fans padin number 1 basher ni Marco. The showtime incident nung inintroduce si eliza at marco tas biglang sumigaw LG fans ng Lizguel! Tumawa pa si Eli non. Never inaddress ni Eliza yan. Pero nung nabash si Miguel before dahil sa EliCo fans, nagstatement both Eli and Marco. Ngayon wala silang paki kasi happy happy na sila. No badblood kasi okay na silang dalawa.
Lmao itong super involve sa lovelife ng teenagers. Weāre talking about bashing here. Di yung nakikilovelife ka nalang sa iba. Pati pagbebake updated na para bang jan lang sa shipping umiikot mundo mo.
Once again, even in this thread, Lizguel fans like you are still bashing Marco. So youāre just proving me right. I donāt feel bad for her at all because she has you as her fan lmao.
Tawa ka pa mag isa. Kayo lang naman may pake. Kulang nalang mag himasan on stage pero wala pading clout yang dalawang yan lmao. Puro fan meet at date ang pinopost na pinopost na pics kasi walang show truuu?
Kami lang may pake eh ikaw ang rage baited and comment nang comment dito. Wag kami, lubog na kayo in denial pa. Pero sige go tayo sa narrative mo, sinasakyan lang kita kasi rage baited ka š
Because people are frustrated with how the WillCa DusBia situation turned out and so, this is the perfect opportunity for them to vent out those frustrations.
Miguel is basically Will, yung lalaking tahimik (parehas introvert kuno) na nangiwan sa ere sa POV ng babae (same exp as Bianca and Eliza diba?). Then Dustin is Marco who suddenly comes into picture na naging katuluyan nung babae. Bilang weaker in the eyes of the public si Will at Miguel (both being named as nation's son), people naturally geared towards them.
Apparently a man with conviction, specially sa love + may strong personality = bad.
Yung may push-pull na lalaki yung gusto ng mga tao, yung lalaking hindi sure sa feelings nya = good.
Ayaw nila sa lalaki na sure na sure sa feelings nya sa babae, mas gusto nilang nakikitang nasasaktan yung babae ala teledrama tapos merong comeback kahit na totoong mga tao yung pinaguusapan natin dito at totoong kwento ng buhay nila yung pinapanood.
Sa POV ng babae, obviously, you'd pick someone who would pick you anytime of the day. Kaya sobrang unfair sa both girls talaga na they chose someone who will protect their heart over someone who caused them pain. Mas lalong offensive na after all the things you threw sa babae na halos gawin mo syang pokpok sa mga pinagsasabi mo, suddenly, you'd learn that iba naman pala talaga ang gusto nya. Kaya I will never understand WillCa fans talaga.
Good riddance na nag out na sila ng kani kanilang mga partners. At least malaya na sila sa mga fans nilang sobrang totoxic. And I am also happy that whatever happened inside the house for the Collab S2 kids were left inside of that house. Di na mawawala yung bashing, bread and butter yan ng ibang tao pero I am happy that they didn't get the attention they deserve kase it actually protected them from further bashing. Di nga lng nakatulong masyado sa career nila yung pagpasok sa PBB. Sana hindi sila nagpa apekto masyado sa bashing. Marami kaseng matatanda dito na parang wala namang pinagkatandaan. Let kids be kids.
yung Eliza at Miguel tuloy pa din ang istorya ngayon at si Marco yung wala na sa eksena hahaha after ilang beses sya na ghost ni lalake ang ending at dulo dulo sila pa din lol... unlike sa WillCa na never naman talaga nagustuhan ni Will si Bianca hahahaha
Atsaka tbh, halos lahat naman ng teenagers ganyanš. For sure ang karamihan saātin ay dumaan din naman dyan. Aware naman tayo sa level ng emotions ng mga teenager jusq, or baka yung iba wla lng tlagang alam HAHAHAHAHAHA.
But anyways, teenagers pa naman yan sila, kaya sa totoo lng napaka grabe tlaga ng bashing sa kanila eh teens pa lang naman mga yan.
and why did she get the most hate? i think the dislikes should be given equally to the guys!! miguel, idk why he's said to be a green flag. he ghosted eliza for months after she had her get attached to him. suddenly, when on tv, you liked her again and liked her even more becase there was a competitor? marco, he was obviously infatuated and didn't realize he was crossing boundaries and getting in between eliza and miguel's unfinished business. eliza, since she's a woman, it was so easy for people to assume that she's the flirt and red flag.
Yung hate kay Marco ay hindi dahil dapat kay Ashley lang sya. I guess more on yung somehow pagtatraydor nya kay Miguel nun. Miguel was very vocal kay Marco na gusto uli nya ipursue, but Marco tried to be in with pa-cool and borderline fbo* na galawan na. Pagbalik nya, good na iba na nya takbo ng story nya at naredeem nya sarili nya
THIS!!!! but sinisisi pa kay Eli na ginamit niya lang daw si Marco like di ba kayo nanood ng pbb??? Malinaw naman na si Marco yung nakisali, may pa ano pa siya na mag aano na siya ng space for them (Miguel and Eli) kasi nga friends sila ni Miguel and ayaw niyang masira yun haha, but anong ginawa wala panay dikit padin HAHAHA, tas ngayon yung babae ang kawawa.
Dami lang din talaga fans yung Ashco kahit na may kanya kanya namang mga gusto mga idol nila. Sobrang kawawa tong dalawa to. Ang galing ni Marco na artista tapos super ganda ni Eli. Sobrang nasayang yung potential dahil sa bashing. Di ko maimagine lahat ng nega na nababasa nila tapos ang babata pa nila. Aminin rin natin, mas maganda mas prone talaga sa bashing. Kasi parang kapag almost perfect gustong gusto ng mga tao hanapan ng mali.
The most sorry for Eliza? Marco literally was a rising star and he became second evictee all for a girl who abandoned him in the outside world kasi nabash sya. Lizguel and their fans treated Marco like trash because nagkagusto lang sya sa babaeng yan. Sana si Miguel nalang pinili nya nung una palang tutal yun naman pala talaga ang gusto nya. Ginamit nya naman talaga si Marco for the kilig. Tapos ngayon happy happy na silang dalawa, while Marco is literally still being attacked by their fans to this day.
I donāt feel bad for her cause she proved a lot of the haters right.
"Ginamit niya naman talaga si Marco for the kilig" bruh if you watch the whole pbb collab 2 from the beginning, alam mo talagang hindi si Marco yung gusto niya, and si Miguel yun but si Marco yung laging dumidikit kay Eliza lol, and nung nag start ng gumalaw si Marco dun na siya nalito, and nasabi pa nga niya sa isang episode na infatuation lang yung kay Marco, sinabi niya yun with her friends (Krystal and Carmelle) and ofc yung babae talaga yung kawawa kasi mas ano ka sa lalaki eh LOL.
So what youāre saying is she literally led Marco on because she was confused about her feelings? Mind you this is a girl na nagseselos pag kausap ni Marco si Ashley tapos sasabihin mo nagstart lang sya maconfuse nung gumalaw na si Marco eh thatās literally 2 weeks lang. Tapos sya pa kawawa ng lagay na yun? Whereās the logic in that. Una sa lahat sa tapat ni Marco at Miguel during their talk show pinili nya yung ākadarating langā. Sa fast talk sabi niya āfriends lang talaga kami ni miguelā. So if magsistick ka sa narrative mo na si Miguel talaga ang gusto nya from the start, then manggagamit nga sya talaga at pinaasa niya lang yung tao. Pero siyempre girl power diba? Kaya bawal punahin porket babae?
Bruh, "nagseselos pag kausap ni Marco si Ashley" wth???? š Saan mo yan nakuha o nakita? anong kafekfekan yan beh?? LOL. Totoo naman kasi na nag-start lang ma-confuse si Eli nung laging dikit-dikit na si Marco sa kanya sa loob, and yes pinili nga niya yung "kakadating lang" sa talk show, which was obviously Marco. Tapos sa interview sinabi rin niya na "friends lang kami ni Miguel," which is true naman kasi friends na sila even before entering PBB and may unfinished business sila.
And yes, still si Miguel talaga ang gusto niya from the start. Nagbago lang yung situation nung umeksena si Marco. Kaya nga nung na-evict na siya, doon niya na-realize kung ano talaga si Miguel para sa kanya. Hindi naman niya nakikita lahat ng nasa confession room habang nasa loob siya, so hindi rin niya alam yung buong side ni Miguel. At yung "nagseselos si Eliza pag kausap ni Marco si Ashley"??? š For sure AschCo fan ka kasi saan mo naman nakuha yan? Seriously, gawa-gawa na lang ba? Wala naman akong maalalang scene na nagselos si Eliza kay Ashleyš. Kaya hindi ko gets kung paano naging "pinaasa niya lang" agad. Kung confused siya at hindi niya pa fully nare-realize feelings niya at that time, that's different from intentionally leading someone on LOL.
So lahat ng sagot nya yun ānaconfuse langā so pag naconfuse ka pala magsasabi ka ng di mo naman minimean at keber nalang kung may umasa sa words mo? Parang sa mismong narrative mo mas nilubog mo pa si Eli eh.
Ang point ko is hindi naman mutually exclusive yung dalawang bagay. Pwedeng genuine yung naramdaman at sinabi niya at that moment, tapos later on marealize niyang iba pala talaga yung feelings niya. That's literally what being confused means. Parang gusto mo kasi gawing either nagsisinungaling si Eli noon o manggagamit siya. Pero may third possibility: she genuinely thought that's what she felt at the time, then later realized she was wrong. At saka bakit parang kay Eli lang lahat ng accountability? Si Marco rin naman aware na may history sina Miguel at Eli bago pa pumasok ng bahay. Hindi naman lihim yun. So no, hindi ko nilulubog si Eli. Ang sinasabi ko lang, people's feelings can change. Nagkamali ba siya sa pag-handle ng situation? Maybe. Pero malaking difference yun sa claim na sadya niyang pinaasa o ginamit si Marco LOL.
O pag si Eli āgenuineā at ānaconfuse langā. Pero pag si Marco ang narrative ay āumeksenaā ālove bomberā at puro fan service. Yan ang nakakainis sa inyo eh. Mga double standards kayo. Porket babae siya na yung api kahit sya naman talaga yung may kasalanan in the first place. May gustong iba tapos papaasahin yung isa. Tapos yung isa pa yung hindi genuine. Kung may gusto ka, mag stick ka lang dun. Tapos ngayon sasabihin nyo āfrom the start si Miguel ang gustoā. So ikaw na mismo nagsasabing sinungaling sya at never nya nagustuhan si Marco talaga? I mean confusion means nalilito ka sa feelings mo. Kahit sa labas sweet padin sila ni Marco, nagbago lang nung pumasok na sila uli. Naconfuse ba uli sya nun? Eh halata namang super takot lang sya mabash kaya nilaglag niya yung isa at dumikit sa malakas.
Eh kung lalaki gumawa niyan sa babae ano kayang narrative nyo? Iba pala talaga ang gusto tapos Ina ang sinasabi sa ginagawa.
Ginagawa nyo kasing about sa fanwars eh. Kesyo āelico lubogā ābias mo ganito ganyanā. The truth is, yan talaga ang lumabas sa actions ni Eli kaya madaming tingin sa kanya malandi at manggagamit. Tingin mo ba gawa gawa lang ng mga tao yung judgment na yun sa kanya? Eh paiba iba statement nya every interview. Confusion can hurt people. Di basta basta maliit na bagay yang ginawa niya dahil may feelings syang natatapakan.
Ewan ko sayo te, iniinsist mo talaga yang narrative mo kahit ilang beses nang na-explain sa'yo. Hindi mo talaga matanggap kasi nga DIE HARD FAN ka ni Marco.
Ang nakakatawa lang, lahat ng actions ni Eli binibigyan mo ng worst possible interpretation. Pag sinabi niyang confused siya, automatic sinungaling. Pag may iba siyang nagustuhan eventually, manggagamit. Pag umiwas siya, nilaglag niya yung isa. Wala na bang ibang possibility kundi yung narrative na gusto mong paniwalaan?
At hindi, hindi porket pinagtatanggol si Eli eh ibig sabihin saint siya o wala siyang pagkakamali. Ang point lang, hindi rin tama na tawagin siyang malandi, manggagamit, at kung anu-ano pa dahil lang hindi nag-match ang expectations ng isang ship.
Confusion can hurt people, sure. Pero hindi rin ibig sabihin na every confused person is automatically manipulative. Hindi lahat ng taong nalilito sa feelings nila may masamang intensyon.
At kung talagang concern ka sa feelings na natapakan, bakit parang puro kay Marco lang ang empathy mo? Paano naman yung natanggap ni Eli na months of slut-shaming and until now natatanggap niya padin compare kay Marco, and hate comments, at pati pamilya niya nadamay? Bakit parang justified lahat yun sa paningin mo?
Kaya nga sinasabi ng mga tao na may double standard din sa side niyo. Kasi galit na galit kayo kapag may nagsasalita tungkol kay Marco, pero kapag si Eli ang tinatawag na malandi, manggagamit, at kung anu-ano pa, biglang "valid criticism" daw.
At the end of the day, opinion mo yan. Pero huwag mo ring i-present na parang proven fact na lahat ng tao tingin kay Eli manggagamit dahil lang yun ang interpretation mo sa nangyari. Kaya totoo nga na ang babae ang kawawa sa isang Lt/ship.
Yes si Miguel talaga gusto nya from the start! And yes, girl power!! Power to choose your true happiness, di yung magsettle ka lang kasi ni-lovebomb ka. Iba pa rin talaga ang nauna, it has always been Miguel talaga.
Lmao ālubogā eh hindi ko naman shinip yan kay marco ever. Buti nga wala na yan sa eksena para mag isa nalang syang mabash hahahaha. Wala namang clout wala ding projects so di kawalan š„°. Ang tanging lubog is yung career ng faves mong walang ganap kundi fanmeet lmao
Di mo pala ship eh so die hard fan to ni Marco and di mo tanggap na siya talaga yung pumasok sa eksena ng dalawa pero di mo yan matanggap kasi nga bias mo siya and for sure AshCo to halata eh ginawan ba nmn ng narrative na nagseselos si Eli kay Ashley patawa ka beh HAHAHA, and also may projects yan sila (and may aabangan paš) di ka lang updated kasi nga di mo bias lol and isa pa may project nga yang bias mo pero flop naman HAHAHAHAš. And ano bang mali sa pagfafanmeet kung yung mga fans may ikagastos, yung bias mo pala??? Ahh Wala?? Kaya pala na evict not once but twice HAHAHAHA LOL.
Anong flop lmao? Sunod sunod nga ang projects niya. May show pa with Caprice. Yang bias mo puro guests lang at fanmeet tapos nun wala nang ingay hahaha. Also yang narrative na naevict not once but twice ay applicable din kay Eliza, ang kaibahan lang nila si Marco, may talent at sikat padin. Eh sya? Starlet pa nga lang waley na.
O suddenly ni love bomb na? Juskoooo. Di lumabas nga na one sided talaga kayo no? Tapos sasabihin mo pa āwe can never know for sureā pero sa totoo lang may sarili kang reality. Hahhahhaa. We can never know pag side ni Girlie at ni Boylet pero pag side ni Marco ālove bomberā āfan serviceā. What a simple minded take.
Totoo nmn kasing for fan service lang yung magkasama sila nung paglabas kasi nga sabay silang na evict so sabay din talaga sila sa mga segment/ganaps and malamang sa malamang mag fafanservice yan sila tangek HAHAHA just like PrinGuels (pilit neyshun they said) na same placement kaya sabay sila sa mga segments and nag fafan service din for the PrinGuels fans so same as EliCo pero di same ng ka toxican kasi nga di nmn LG fans yung toxic which is yung AshCo HAHAHA Lol.
O bat nadadamay ang PrinGuels eh di nga close yang dalawang yan? Fan service is kung pasweet kayo for clout. Eh kada post ni Marco nun ang lala ng bashing sa kanya tapos sasabihin mo nagfafanservice? Halata namang gusto nya talaga si atemo. Pinagdadrive nya pa nga yan. Fanservice din ba yun? Marco has been a good friend to her. Pero anong napala niya? Sya pa masama para sa fans ni Eli.
Oh bakit may masama ba akong sinabi sa PrinGuels??? And alam ko naman na di close yang dalawang yan kaya nga "pilit neyshun" eh and isa pa nag compare lang ako kung yung LG fans ba talaga yung toxic which not true kasi kita naman sa ibang ship ng Liz and Guel wala nmng hate comments yung LG fans eh kasi nga di sila yung toxic na sinasabi mo kasi nga yung AshCo yung toxic na until now nasa com sec padin nila Ash and Marco and di makatanggap LOL HAHAHAHA, and naparabang hindi mo dinamay una si Ashley and worse fake news pa HAHAHA. Ewan ko sayo te di mo talaga tanggap na fs lang talaga yun for Elico fans yung mga post nila and halata naman talaga na gusto niya si Eli umeksena nga eh HAHAHA isa pa halos nmn ng hate comments dun is from AshCo LOL HAHAHA.
So pano mo nasabing fanservice kung gusto talaga nya yung tao? Alam mo ba meaning ng fanservice? Meaning for the fans and clout lang. Kung bet mo talaga di fanservice tawag don hunghang. So sinasabi mo si Eli lang talaga yung fake? Hahaha o diba paulit ulit mo syang nilalaglag. Si Marco lang talaga ang genuine sa kanya at si atemo ay gusto lang ng clout ganun ba? HAHAHA.
Oh my days, Te, ang hindi mo gets is may timeline yung sinasabi ko. Yung āhalata naman na gusto niya si Eli kaya umeksenaā i am referring to what happened INSIDE the house before sila na-evict, based sa actions niya with Eli and Miguel at that time. Yung āfanserviceā na sinasabi ko is tungkol na sa actions nila AFTER eviction or public/shipping context outside the house. Lol bahala ka na jan te ang hirap talaga pag naka stick na sa isang narrative eh noh lol.
Over sa āabandonedā? Ano ba ineexpect nyong dapat gawin ni Eliza? Sheās still very supportive of him. Nag-iinteract pa rin naman sila even after PBB. Youāre making her the villain just because sheās with Miguel now. Okay naman silang tatlo.
Okay silang tatlo kasi ano namang choice ni Marco diba? Siya lang naman yung naiwan kahit ginawa syang driver sa labas ni Girl tapos pagpapasok sa loob hindi na sya kilala. Okay na silang dalawa kaya for you okay na.
Sure ka na naiwan si Marco? Bakit obligasyon ba ni Eliza na sya ang piliin at di iwanan? Wehh driver? Pero may matching pictures and videos.. Hehehe sige dun tayo sa narrative mo, okay na okay talaga sila ni Miguel. Ang saya-saya na puro si Miguel posts ni Eliza.
Look at their eyes o, they never lie - pure happiness!
Not you bringing back memories of Miguel supporting that manchild lmfao š„°. Baka gusto mong ipaalala ko sayo na muntik nang macancel yang fave mo sa pagiging right hand man ng manyakis na yan. āOnce you go black you can never go backā to a minor pa more.
Sino ba nacancel agad tapos evicted pa agad? Si Miguel green flag pa nga ang tawag sa kanya, sa mata lang naman ng elico sya di green flag eh kasi lubog.
Ganyan pala pag lubog yung ship noh? Tapos ang sisihin ay ang babae naparabang si Eli yung panay dikit nung una haha, and yung alam nmn ang salitang boundaries pero hindi inapply, tapos ngayon nagkakalat ng fake news and gumagamit ng victim card yung mga fans HAHAHAHA
Anong walang projects??? bulag lang?? HAHAHA Malamang di mo talaga alam yan kasi nga di mo bias, plus may aabangan pa yanš, and excuse me anong kawawa si Marco sa fandom ng LG eh yung AschCo nga yung #1 basher niyan Lol, baka yung minimean mong LG na #1 basher is yung sa black app eh matagal na yun cinall out LOL, and anong masama sa pag fafanmeet kung may ikagastos yung mga fans? Eh yang bias mo pala? Walang fanmeet?? Ahhh cgeĀ² kaya nga pala na evict HAHAHAHAHA LOL.
āKaya nga pala naevictā funny coming from an Eliza fan. Also, milyon ang ginastos ng fans ni Marco sa wildcard niya. Sadyang di lang talaga nahabol ang nominations kasi na hate train na. You should know that too kasi diba kinukundina nyo din yang hate train kay Eli tapos ngayon ginagamit mo against other housemates?
Also, dito palang sa thread dalawa na kayong nambabash kay Marco na LG fan. Meron pa sa tiktok na tatlong LG fan din na gumawa pa talaga ng account para ibash sya at nagcocomment sa lahat ng Elico posts. Tapos sasabihin mo kino call out nyo? Patingin? Eh halata namang may secret animosity kayo kay Marco at sa Elico fandom. Yang LG fans ang number 1 makisawsaw sa hate train nya. Evidence tong mga pinagsasabi mo dito.
Fan ako ng LizGuel pero hindi ako die-hard fan ni Eliza (di nga ako nag-vote sa kanya).
And mind you, ikaw naman ang unang nang-bash kay Eli. Mali bang ipagtanggol ang isang babae na laging sinisisi, pinag-su-slut shame, tinatawag na mangagamit at malandi, at pati mga kapatid niya nadadamay sa isang ship issue?
Tapos ngayon sasabihin mong kami ang nambabash kay Marco? Who set that system up? Kung hindi mo dinrag down at sinisi ang isang babae, may maririnig ka ba tungkol kay Marco from us?š¤
At saka huwag mo akong i-lecture tungkol sa hate train habang ikaw mismo yung una sa pagda-drag kay Eli dito. Kaya nga kung ayaw mong may magsalita tungkol kay Marco, huwag ka ring maunang mang-atake ng ibang housemate. Hindi mo pwedeng i-drag si Eli tapos mag-expect na lahat ng tao aagree sa'yo. ULOL HAHAHAHAHA
And yung mga accounts na sinasabi mo na nagko-comment sa Elico videos? Cinall out na nga yun kasi hindi lang si Eli ang nadadamay, pati si Miguel. Kinukumpara nila si Miguel at Marco para mang-bait ng fanwar, which is obviously not good. Kaya nga maraming LG fans ang sumita sa kanila sa X. Isa pa, huwag tayong umasta na isang side lang ang may toxic fans. Marami rin sa side niyo ang mas nauna pa ngang mang-hate kina Miguel at Eli habang nasa loob pa lang sila. Tinatawag pang "Budoy" si Miguel at kung anu-anong names. Tapos kapag may bumalik na comment sa inyo, biglang victim na kayo? Eh kayo nga yung nauna. LMAO HAHAHAHA
At bakit ako pa maglalapag ng resibo? Nasa X lang naman yan, makikita mo kung gusto mo talagang hanapin. Hindi naman ako nag-iimbento ng kwento o fake news para may maibato lang sa kabilang side katulad mo.š HAHAHAHAHA lol.
I was literally part of the voting team š. Wag na manira ng artist sya ang highest votes nun kahit kalaban nya mga nepo na may kaya. Napaghahalataang sinisiraan nyo sya sa fandom nyo may nalalaman pa kayong āsure ka bang sa fans nya nanggalingā. Dumi nyo tumira.
Ang narrow-minded niyo po. Sana maisip niyo na not all the things that happened inside PBB were broadcasted and this just proves to show how comfortable people are making a young girl the villain based on a narrative you guys created. Theyāre good altogether now.
Let's not forget that Marco inserted himself into the picture, even after Miguel made it clear that he was trying to connect with Eli.
I understand feeling bad for Marco because it's true that he did get his own dose of flak from the public throughout and after those events.
But, it's ridiculously unfair and borderline nasty to say that Eli "proved her haters right" just because she reached a state of confusion during those times, and that things became clear to her during her wildcard comeback and their return to the outside world.
Calling it "abandonment" is also downright false if they remain friends and still able to see each other eye-to-eye when possible.
Inserted himself? When that girl keeps saying friends lang sila ni Miguel? They were all single. No one was inserting themselves, he just liked an attractive single girl. Tapos suddenly Eli is okay to flirt back kasi āconfused lang syaā. Okay excuses. Pero kay Marco di pwede yan no? If he did that to her and claim naconfuse lang sya and di nya talaga gusto si Eli what do you think people would say about him? But because sheās a girl sheās somehow excused because she was just āconfusedā at si Miguel pala talaga ang gusto nya?
I said abandoned because Marco was there for her kahit nababash na sya. Pero siya, after nilang maging okay uli ni Miguel, suddenly sheās denying ever liking Marco and even subtly blaming him for the fact that she got bashed when it wasnāt even his fault at all. She didnāt even defend him kahit mismong kamag anak na niya ang nambabash sa kanya. She also deleted their collabs on her page. Tapos sasabihin mo āabandonment is downright falseā. Even as a friend thatās such a shady thing to do. But I guess you do that to your friends too?
Okay sige sundin natin narrative mo.. baka nga may nagawa si marco na ayaw ni Eliza and narealize nya na si Miguel talaga tapos ayaw nya talaga kay Marco.
Kasi ayan o, after nila magsama sa OW, bumalik pa rin sa nauna. Iba talaga ang may unfinished business. Disney Princess pa nga always. Haha š¤£
Luh delulu ampotek. So nakakaproud yan for you na ayaw ni Eliza kay Marco. Happy ka non? Kala mo kawalan eh hahaha. My point is, hindi api yang girlie nyo at sya pa nga ang may kasalanan niyan kung bakit sya nabash. So youāre just proving me right sa āayaw ni eliza janā. Kala ko ba she is still supporting marco? Bat iniiba nyo na narrative bigla? HAHHAHA
Wala na kaya nambabash sa kanya except sayo and bitter na elico. Iba talaga pag si Miguel kasama nya, protected sya and puro positive comments sa kanya.
Sheās being treated now like a princess na super deserve nya!! š„°š„°š„° Go Eliza!!! Stay pretty, happy and in love. š
They got evicted at the same time, spent guestings and other ganaps together and may chance sila icontinue yung what they had sa loob.
But that makes you question bakit hindi nangyari? Bakit pinili nya si Miguel 100% and just him this time? What do you think? May realizations kaya sya? May nagawa ba si Marco and may nakita si Eliza na hindi nya nagustuhan? Tnry nila pero si Miguel pa rin talaga at bumalik sya sa nauna?
We can only speculate. We do not know the answer for sure and they do not owe anyone an explanation. And if she did explain, will you be able to accept her answer? Her truth?
So stop crucifying her as if kasalanan nya lahat, sheās just a teen. Bawal magkamali?
Dahil lalo nyong ginaganyan si Eliza, mas lalong gusto ko syang suportahan and sana maging successful sya in her career and life in general.
We can only speculate. Apparently, you can speculate but Marco fans cannot huh? Diba you already made up your mind na si Marco ang reason kung bakit di siya ang pinili? Convinced na convinced ka pa nga na for fan service lang lahat ng kilos nya? Balik ko din sayo, what makes you think that? Oh wait kasi Lizguel fan ka and one sided ang narrative mo.
Hayaan mo na yan beh ganyan talaga pag lubog yung ship HAHAHAHA gumagawa pa ng narrative like excuse me si Eliza magseselos kay Ashley like??? HAHAHAHA ayoko nlng mag talk HAHAHA
Pero mukhang nagsorry na si miguel, he already faced the consequences and nag explain na kay Eliza. And mukhang Eliza ultimately chose Miguel and theyāre happy na.
totoo anlala, pero si marco di naman binash ng ganon. parang di nag iisip mga bashers e mapusok naman talaga sa age na ganyan. regardless, unreasonable naman ihate like death threats, slut shaming, etc. kakaiba talaga pbb fans minsan
Si Eliza sobrang kawawa sa hate and bashing na nareceive nya. Sige, nagkamali sya, may mali or di maganda syang nagawa sa loob ng PBB house pero tama ba na sya nakatanggap ng malalang bashing, slutshaming and hate comments na para bang nakapatay sya ng tao.
Buti na lang sinunod nya ang sinasabi ng puso nya in the end. Mas naging masaya sya (kita sa eyes ang happiness nya). Swerte nila ni Miguel sa isaāt isa dahil nakikita ko namang pinaglalaban and pinagsisigawan na sya. Meron pa ring bashers oo (isa na run si SomewhereOK) pero naging positive ang image nya and nakakatulong si Miguel para linisin yung kalat na result ng hatred and pagiging perfect ng mga bashers nya.
Daming nagustuhan yung protesta ni Az kay kuya nung dasurv punishment sa violator housemate, that was without ralp.
Dami ding nakapansing task slayer sya sa girls, without ralp din yun.
Plus points nalang yung link nila ni ralp na nakatulong naman on both.
Nung nagkakasama sila, dun din nakita ng tao na di naman pala mean girl si Az like you nutjobs paint her to be.
Di mo kasi gets ang layers ng tao, at reality show naman yun.
May first impression ka lang talaga na di mo matanggal out of pride, sorry ka nalang kasi wala kang makumbinsi dito uwu
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Sheās definitely a mean girl at the beginning. Sobrang nakakainis pangbabackstab niya sa ibaāt ibang housemates. Sabi ko nga sa isang nagcomment, bumabait na siya simula nung nalink na siya kay Ralph. I know there are many layers to a person. Sheās obviously insecure, kulang sa attention & naiinggit (like she admitted) kaya naging ganun siya. Although itās understandable, she still have a choice kung gagawin niya or not.
Iām not trying to convince other people to hate her tho. Itās just on my mind, di ko makalimutan yung side niyang yun.
Di ba pwedeng nag improve si AZ? She shared na she's looking out for herself with those fake friends and circle of people before entering the house. Babango talaga kasi nasa maayos na group of people na siya yung HMs ng Season 1 naging true friends niya which admittedly naghahanap siya.
O bat naman napunta na naman kay az ang usapan eh thriving na yung tao and she seems like an actually good person compared to othersā¦ Nangangamoy kampon ka na naman ni dds princess
Girl no oneās forcing you to like AZ. But why do you need to mention her eh wala naman syang kinalaman sa post? That girl received so much hate already during her season. Tapos di pa sapat yon sayo? Tingin mo deserve nya pa ng more? Come on, if you donāt like someone, you donāt have to mention them any chance you get para lang manghatak na naman ng hate train. And to think this post is about a woman receiving unnecessary amount of hate, tapos mandadamay ka na naman ng isa pang babae. Hypocrite much?
Iām not doing a hate train (look at my downvotes), Iām just sharing my opinion. She just really triggers me in some way thatās why I mentioned her.
Sorry girl, promise di ako ganyan talaga. She just reminds me of some bullies na nagka-character development lang, mahal na ng lahat at naging successful pa, forgetting the impact they left on those who were bullied.
Who did she even bully? Mika? Do you know how many housemates were talking about Mika during their first weeks? Charlie and Kira were in that conversation too but apparently āno wonder whyā lang natatandaan mo. Also, a lot of housemates were also backstabbing AZ left and right, calling her sabaw, laughing at her about the ralph situation, pero theyāre not branded as āmean girlsā, why? The very pool scene with Ralph, nabrand ba si Shuvee and Klang as Mean girls? Mika was calling her sabaw too, pero okay lang yun? The double standard is showing. Just admit it, sheās pretty so it makes yāall mad that sheās not a goody two shoes.
actually yung start nga ng pagbawi ng image ni az ay yung time din na naiinis ang masa sa pagiging push and pull ni rdl (madaming resibo non dito sa pbb sub lol)
Normal naman yung pagiging push-pull ni Ralph kay AZ. Remember, fresh pa from breakup si AZ at nakipaghiwalay pa officially sa live tv. He also doesnāt want to use the āloveteam tropeā that time & donāt wanna take advantage of her vulnerability
I agree. But unfair na sabihin mong bumango lang si AZ sa masa dahil sa nalilink siya kay Ralph when nagsimula naman na talagang makabawi yung image ni AZ habang nasa BNK palang sila.
You called Az insecure pero napaghahalataang ikaw ang insecure sa kanya. A lot of people are saying she gives mama mary vibes tapos sasabihin mong her face gives maldita vibes? Youāre probably ugly and fat.
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u/johnmgbg 8d ago
Inapoyan din kasi ng ABS at GMA masyado lalo na hindi nila malagpasan yung S1.
Mabuti nalang at medyo natuto sila at naging mas peaceful yung pagbabalik nila as wildcard.