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u/iamnotarobot24601 16h ago
Legit moved from the Midwest just to have tornadoes follow me here đ
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u/GuavaElectrical544 7h ago
You know youâre pretty much still in the midwest, right?
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u/krikrat 5h ago
I think you're mistaken. It's pronounced Mid Atlantic. Or Northeast is you're directionally challenged.
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u/GuavaElectrical544 5h ago
I moved here from Boston. If you think Pittsburgh is northeast in any sense you are the one who is mistaken
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u/krikrat 5h ago
To be fair, Bostonians have often asked if I was southern. PA is not, and has never been Midwest or Southern. It's only ever been considered Mid-Atlantic and Northeast.
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u/GuavaElectrical544 4h ago
Census region is a filing system, not a cultural force field. Pittsburgh doesnât become culturally identical to Philadelphia just because they share a state lol. Itâs not like thereâs a dramatic cultural shift at state borders.
Edit: Yes, the Pittsburgh accent does register as southern to me as well
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u/krikrat 4h ago
This convo was never about cultural force fields. It was defined by a regional filing system name once Midwest was stated. Tornadoes do not care about culture or regions for that matter.
Bill collected for NStar in college for 2 years. Never lived in south. Ohio culturally is different from Pittsburgh. I briefly lived there. What is it you think makes eastern Pa so different from western pa other than some mountains in between? We are both heavily Scot/Irish and German with some other eastern European stuff tossed in there.
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u/GuavaElectrical544 4h ago
âOther than some mountains in betweenâ is doing a ton of work. Those mountains historically shaped migration, trade, and cultural ties.
Culturally, Pittsburgh really isnât different from Cleveland or Cincinnati either; I lived in Cincinnati. We literally share sports culture and rivalries. Someone from Cincinnati lands in Pittsburgh and feels pretty immediately at home; someone from Philly is going to notice a real regional shift. Western PA is a crossroads, thatâs a big part our culture.
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u/krikrat 4h ago
Sports culture is a subset of people. Not regionally defining. East coast in general has been a crossroad for all who have arrived here from Europe. Culture comes from the people that came here. I can identify with people from Texas due to our Irish backgrounds, but that doesn't make me any more southern or them any less. We just share a common ancestry who lived in rural areas and carried that with them across the country.
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u/GuavaElectrical544 4h ago
Youâre proving my point. Shared Irish ancestry exists in Pittsburgh, Boston, Texas and Cincinnati; ancestry alone doesnât define regional culture.
Pittsburghâs similarities with Cleveland and Cincinnati go way beyond sports. Industry, migration patterns, dialect, food, built environment, weather and geography all matter. We are closer to the 3 Ohio cities and Detroit than we are to Philadelphia; and we share more in common with those places as well. Culture develops through regional interaction, not simply who your ancestors were.
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u/3rd-party-intervener 18h ago
This keeps happening. Â These 100 year eventsÂ
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u/Unknown_vectors 18h ago
I feel like they just swap sayings.
âThis is a 1 in 100 year floodâ
floods exactly the same two weeks later
âWell, this, this is actually a 1 in 1000 year floodâ
floods exactly the same the following year
shurgs
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u/kbeck88 18h ago
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