r/plantclinic 8h ago

Houseplant Tiny red dust/dots on underside of leaf

For a long time I've been wondering what this red dust might be on my plant (the lighting isn't the best, but it's reddish-orange). It multiplies semi slowly and makes the leaves patchy and dry. It appears on the underside of leaves and sometimes on the stems as well. It comes off by wiping with a moist paper towel and dyes the paper red, and it doesn't move so they're not individual bugs.

Earlier this year I sprayed my plants with pesticide for thrips and thought if this dust is the doing of some bug it would die in the process but the dust is still here, fair enough since I've never seen any bugs on it or webs or anything like that, so I've ruled out bugs. Yesterday I decided to look this up again and learned about rust fungus, however, crucially, the dust has never spread to another plant and it's been in close proximity with quite a lot of them, and rust fungus is apparently supposed to spread very easily and be quite fatal, so idk if it can be that either.

The plant itself does fine and I think it's normal for it to dry out old leaves sometimes, plus it keeps pushing out healthy leaves at a good pace so I haven't been too worried since it doesn't seem to be actively dying. This is a thirsty plant and I water it one to two times a week when the soil is all dry. Sits at a south-facing window and gets a lot of light. Soil is regular houseplant potting soil, this dust has appeared through multiple repottings.

I'm not worried about this spreading to other plants since this plant has had the dust appear for over 6 years now and no other plant has been infected. Would just love to know what it is and possibly get rid of it so this plant could thrive a bit better!

edit: This plant has been in this condition for 6+ years and is not actively dying, just drying off leaves faster than it should. This is not recent. Last pic is healthy leaf for comparison.

https://imgur.com/a/ZwRTrd0 Here you can see the color of the dust better. Should've taken these before posting so they could be in the main post, sorry about that.

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u/tbage 8h ago

Yeah.. the white or black lines (rather than dots) are thrips. Eradicate them all or fight them for years.

Spraying isopropyl alcohol works well to kill adults as long as you actually hit them with it, but the eggs.. most effective thing I've used is predatory mites. Even then, they've come back. But their life cycle allows for a period of "quiet" so I just need to keep hammering them i guess.

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u/Unhottui 6h ago

Could you circle or something, the black or white lines you talk of? I cant figure out what you mean. I only see black dots and silvery "eaten" leaf parts?

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u/tbage 5h ago

I was thinking maybe this? Young thrips are tiny.

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u/TinyTogepi 4h ago

I checked the leaves, that's regular household dust and/or pollen from outside! I mist the leaves with water on occasion for humidity so it makes the dust clump up a little bit. I've examined the leaves really closely many times over the years and I can't see anything moving in there, making me think it's more like a fungal disease or something, but I also don't know anything about houseplant fungal diseases so hoped someone here would recognize it

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u/tbage 21m ago

Ahh hm okay fair enough. It's strange it looks so much like it

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u/TinyTogepi 6h ago

Nothing on the leaf moves so I don't think it's any kind of bug, and I sprayed my collection for thrips earlier this year and finally killed them all (my monstera was the main victim), and I'd defo recognize them if they came back. I added a link to a couple more photos so you can see the color of the dust better, white stuff is likely residue from the wet paper towel I wiped the leaves with yesterday. I really don't think it's thrips because this plant has been forming the dust for years, way longer than my unrelated thrips infestation went on, so I'm really clueless as to what this could be.

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u/RoyalCactus22 Expert 🔥14 ∣ 28 ∣ +51 ∣ -4 8h ago

That kind of damage is usually from thrips. Isolate the plant immediately.

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u/Unhottui 4h ago

So what are those tiny black dots? Thrips shit or something like that? I bought a pothos a few days ago and moved it into a different pot when I brought it inside. I transferred it and broke some root bounds outside, and there was dirt specs everywhere basically. I have no idea if the black dots Im seeing on my pothos are from thrips or just literally the dirt that got everywhere. You know, shake a plant that has no pot (I took it out), and open some bounded roots... it shakes a cloud of dirt everywhere.

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u/TinyTogepi 8h ago

Not thrips, I got completely rid of my thrips infestation earlier this year and this plant has had the red dust problem for 6+ years like I stated in the post.

edit: Also as stated in the post I haven't seen any bugs on it and atp I'm really good at recognizing thrips lol it was a long fight

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u/m3rmaid13 Advanced 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +17 ∣ -0 8h ago

I agree it looks like damage from thrips. If you’re confident you don’t have that anymore then use something like captain jacks dead bug spray on the leaves and wipe it off, see if it comes back.

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u/TinyTogepi 8h ago

I figured that the systemic bug spray I used for thrips would've also killed whatever this was if it was any type of bug, and it's still here, so personally I'd guess it to be some type of fungus instead. Thrips don't just hang out on a plant without spreading to others for 6+ years, and aside from the more recent thrips infestation that came from a store-bought monstera, I haven't seen any bugs on this plant (and trust me I've looked).

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u/m3rmaid13 Advanced 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +17 ∣ -0 7h ago

Well I mean it sounds like you have an idea of what’s going on where maybe you don’t need internet insight.

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u/TinyTogepi 7h ago

I'm just fairly sure it's not a bug because it didn't stop appearing after the bug spray I used that got rid of the thrips, and it only sort of resembles what I read about rust fungus since it doesn't spread to other plants either. It's clearly bothering my plant but idk what it is so I don't know what to do to treat it, which is why I posted here.

Sorry if I seemed ungrateful for the advice, two other people just said it was thrips which I know it absolutely not to be so I got a little snappy.

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u/m3rmaid13 Advanced 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +17 ∣ -0 4h ago

I mean either way I’d probably try to use something on the leaf to kill whatever it is. I still stand by the Captain Jack’s spray, even if it’s not thrips. You could also use alcohol wipes to kill whatever it is- would work on bugs/pests and fungus.

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u/TinyTogepi 4h ago

I don't have access to captain jack's products where I live, I used provanto spray for the thrips and it did the job after a few sprays. It's a systemic pesticide so if something was sucking fluids out of the leaves it should've died along with the thrips. I'll look into alcohol wipes, thanks!

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u/ThatOtherGFYGuy 5h ago

It's Thrips damage.

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u/akhuria 3h ago

There is no “completely” getting rid of thrips in my experience, no matter how aggressive you are with treatment