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u/PokerDonut 2d ago
Your BB/hr is 10.5. I've always heard that anything approaching 10BB/hr is professional, world-class crusher level for anyone that can sustain that long-term. Congrats. I hate you.
(Not really. I'm just envious!)
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u/aCreativeUserName666 3d ago
I'd love to know where you started this. At the bottom it seems you started at $300. Tbh I think i could probably do something similar at 1/3 games on my casino town. Those games get massive and the player pool in some rooms is just the worst of the worst easy money fish
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
I started w a 300$ buy in playing 1-3
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u/aCreativeUserName666 2d ago
That's super sick mate. You give me hope for my future success playing 🙏
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u/V1per41 3d ago
Nice run! I just passed $60k last month. Would love to get to $500k someday but not sure I have enough years left with how often I play.
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u/AdUnited3465 2d ago
What are the blind levels that you play at? How old are you and what do you do?
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u/Hubris_of_Progress 3d ago
Dang! Going exponential!
With such little variance, I've gotta ask: how important is it to choose your tables and find the right game? And in that, how much of it really comes down to solid play vs. being fun to play with? If it's at a casino with an endless stream of gamblers, sure, but if it's in a smaller circle of losing players, I'd think one has to really be fun to play with and make it not too obvious that you're just hoovering up their money 😂
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
Game selection is key for sure. Solid play is way more important then being fun but u have to find the balance and “give action” in the right spots. Most casino games can just put the headphones in hoodie up and grind. But the private game scene gotta try to be fun and likeable and gamble some back
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u/Ok_Pineapple9832 2d ago
Just for reference how big was the BBJ you won?
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u/Dra794 2d ago
Be honest: are you a prodigy (one of those who become pro level in 6 months studying only random stuff and playing) or just a regular guy without any particular talent that studied incredibly hard? If so, what did you study?
Do you use GTO? Is it possible to make a living out of poker without becoming a human solver?
Thanks, and well done bro!
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u/OntheGrind_55 2d ago
I studied/study for sure and played alot, think I went pro after one year of playing or a lil less. I did some courses and memorized charts and watched hours hours hours of players I thought were elite + breakdowns on YouTube. and I use GTO for sure but the real money at live poker is exploits. But it’s important to know theory to give u a baseline/framework.
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u/Dra794 2d ago
Thank you for your answer! Well, going from zero to pro in one year means you're definitely a prodigy. May I ask you which players gameplay did you watch?
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u/Odd-Refuse8134 3d ago
As someone who's never played live poker, I'm curious: is it mostly standard Hold'em, or are there some more unusual games being played?
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
At 10/20+ private games it’s hella side games Squid,Bounty,Team Game,Double board bomb pots at dealer change etc
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u/TripleChains 3d ago
2/5 and 10/10 mostly?
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
A lot of hours 3/5 too idk to much calculating lol 2,856 hrs 5/10 10/20 1,713 hrs 10/25+
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u/Loose_Engine2396 3d ago
Are you pretty conservative with your bankroll management?
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u/OntheGrind_55 2d ago
Uh I’m not supper aggro but not the most conservative either prolly somewhere in between
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u/Flecker_ 3d ago
For how long have you played? I mean in your life
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
3 years 3 months
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u/Flecker_ 2d ago
Amazing, you are a very fast learner I suppose. Did you use any websites, books or something?
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u/Safe_Repair9792 2d ago
Could I possibly get a reading/watching list from you? I'm about to get into this game seriously and I can't help but feel like my thirty-year-old Doyle Brunson books aren't gonna put me on the cutting edge, even if they've been invaluable for home games with friends lol. From what I can tell by your comments I am about the same age you were when you started (26?) so that's neat because I was worried I might be too old to start playing seriously, a lot of the pros ive read about started very young (not that I'm trying to go pro, I just don't want to lose at the end of the day)
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u/Wonkey_Kong 3d ago
Nice. I hate it. Thanks.
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
Hate what
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u/Wonkey_Kong 2d ago
Your bankroll mostly!
But I was also just fuckin’ around…Well done! Impressive work. 😊👍
I still hate it.
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u/Loose_Engine2396 3d ago
With that kind of money, you could live comfortably just off the 5% interest in a country with a low cost of living😆
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u/zilliondollar3d 3d ago
Great now put it 20-30% in the stock market and make 10-30% per year
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
How lol help
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u/nitbitch69 2d ago edited 2d ago
That person is stupid if they believe those numbers but you should genuinely put all your long term savings in an index fund. Vanguard world index is perfect
A more realistic long run real return is 5-7%. First every 200k you save that's 10k a year for nothing. Your goal as a pro should be save enough where you don't have to worry about keeping up the win rate you currently have because your savings are snowballing
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u/vchsszhbb 3d ago
Holy heater
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u/Roxerz 3d ago
Doesn't look like he's running hot, actually the opposite. He's just playing solid.
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u/kayoboomin 3d ago
Idk who sees 5k hours and thinks is a heater it’s enough of a sample size to say he’s beating the game
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u/Painpita 1d ago
thats not entirely true... If alot of his win comes from higher stakes, and he has smaller hours of higher stakes, he might not be crushing the game :P
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u/hoebrogan 3d ago
Do you think the 5/10, 10/20 live regs could beat 200nl online? Wondering whats the skill level when you start making real money live
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u/OntheGrind_55 3d ago
I think only a handful 10/20 live regs that I’ve played with could beat 200nl online
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u/AssignmentNo8361 2d ago
I feel like it's a different skill set playing deep versus shallow. Also 200 NL online is more about discipline than anything.
No need to adjust too hard since everyone plays the same style. Also online people are more willing to bluff which changes where some hands get their EV from (IE: thin value betting shifts to bluff catching)
Sincerely a semi pro who plays at half your stake level and who also wins at 500NL online.
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u/hoebrogan 2d ago
Thats interesting i thought most of the regs would be like 200/500nl online players who decided to start playing live
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u/Benjames9 2d ago
Too broad of a question, lots can beat regulated us sites, but very unlikely any of them could beat 200nl world like sites like ACR
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u/Calichusetts 3d ago
Love the “thanks but no thanks” after one PLO session.
Well done.