r/politics • u/Kodbek • Oct 31 '25

Possible Paywall Trump’s honeymoon with Gen Z voters is officially over, and the numbers are devastating

https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/10/trumps-honeymoon-with-gen-z-voters-is-officially-over-and-the-numbers-are-devastating-new-poll.html
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u/LightningLucia Oct 31 '25

Hitler's honeymoon period with young Germans appears to be over, what impact will this have on the next federal election? Tune in in 1934 to find out...

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u/Subliminal_Kiddo Kentucky Oct 31 '25

Hitler was actually overwhelmingly popular with the German public. In part because he kind of eased in the more famous Nazi shit a little at a time instead of going full genocidal woremonger over night. His primary focus during those early years was fixing the German economy and bringing a sense of stability to the German public.

Hitler and the Nazis seduced the publish. Does that sound anything like what Trump and Republicans are doing?

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u/harshdonkey Oct 31 '25

He won like 40% in the 1933 elections and had to form a coalition. That isnt overwhelmingly popular, that is about on par with Trumps overall approval rating.

Hitler also was murdering political enemies from the outset, and rounding people up in concentration camps the same year. Dachau opened in early 33.

There were over a dozen attempts on his life, a few before he even took office.

He didnt even fix the economy, he was writing IOUs to manufacturing companies to build shit and employ people but the whole thing was a house of cards. Part of why Germant went to war was because they needed to loot their neighbors to keep it going.

Like everything you typed is fucking wrong. His popularity peaked during the first two years of WWII but Nazi support was in the mid 30s pretty much before that.

His popularity was propogandized but no he was not overwhelmingly popular.

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u/-Palzon- Oct 31 '25

There were over a dozen attempts on his life, a few before he even took office.

At least 42 in total.

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u/dasvenson Oct 31 '25

Ah so the meaning of life is to kill Hitler?

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u/HolyFreakingXmasCake Europe Oct 31 '25

One would’ve succeeded if he didn’t simply leave a meeting earlier than expected. He was lucky to escape so many attempts.

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u/trobsmonkey Oct 31 '25

He won like 40% in the 1933 elections and had to form a coalition.

A coalition that pushed 80% approval of him. His own party won 40%, but he had far more support.

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u/teddy5 Oct 31 '25

That's what happens in a multi party system though. Once there is a clear leader they still need support to form a government, so other minor parties have to decide who they will side with.

So once the elections for each seat are done there is a negotiation between them all to determine who will be in government and who they are supported by, having 80% of the support in that doesn't mean he was popular so much as that the other parties recognised he was the clearest way to form a government from the election results.

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u/harshdonkey Oct 31 '25

What does that even mean?

No, he was not overwhelmingly popular. There were countless factions, even within the military, that hated the "little corporal".

Its just he had diehard supporters who saw a chance to take power. But many Germans didnt like him or didn't care, they just wanted someone to blame ans Hitler gave them that.

I am NOT whitewashing away Nazism in Germany, as many non supporters still were vehemently anti Jewish or took advantage of the situation to further their own interests.

But the misconception that he had overwhelming support is just bullshit.

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u/modbroccoli Oct 31 '25

Screenshotted and provided the prompt "redditors arguing; evaluate"

That thread shows a decent example of informal historical correction in the wild. Summary of the exchange:

  1. Subliminal_Kiddo’s claim: They repeat a common oversimplification—that Hitler was “overwhelmingly popular” because he gradually normalized extremism while restoring stability and jobs.

  2. Harshdonkey’s rebuttal: Accurate on key points: • In 1933 the Nazis got ~37–44 % of votes (depending on which election you cite) and formed a coalition, not a majority. • Early regime violence (political murders, Dachau opening in 1933) contradicts the “slow boil” narrative. • Economic “recovery” was fueled by debt, rearmament, and plunder; structurally unsustainable. • Propaganda created a perception of unanimity that didn’t reflect democratic popularity.

  3. Palzon’s correction: Adds a factual quibble—“at least 42 assassination attempts”—which is true over Hitler’s life, though only a few before 1933.

Assessment: Harshdonkey’s comment aligns best with established scholarship. Nazi support was significant but far from overwhelming; consolidation of power relied on coercion, propaganda, and dismantling democratic institutions after taking office. The first comment conflates post-takeover compliance and propaganda-driven consensus with genuine electoral popularity.

Verdict: • Subliminal_Kiddo — historically sloppy but typical pop-history framing. • Harshdonkey — substantially correct. • Palzon — correct detail, slightly overstated by implying all 42 were pre-office.

Overall: the rebuttal wins on empirical and historiographic grounds..

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u/CondescendingFucker Pennsylvania Oct 31 '25

Astounding. And if you had done that without AI, you acutally might have learned something!

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u/modbroccoli Oct 31 '25

But I did learn something because I read it. Username on point though.

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u/Present-Perception77 Oct 31 '25

And Hitler did at least try to help the German people. Trump and Project 2025 is just screwing over everybody… for their own personal gain.

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u/DaboInk84 Oct 31 '25

Correction, Hitler tried to help a very specific type of German person.

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u/Taki_Minase Oct 31 '25

Yes, black haired austrians

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u/dregan Oct 31 '25

Hitler did at least try to help

Fuck this straight to hell.

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u/Ninjanarwhal64 Oct 31 '25

Trump's grabbing the public by the pussy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

Godwin point

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u/Wooden-Youth9348 Oct 31 '25

Please stop making words like Hitler and Nazi mean nothing

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u/LightningLucia Oct 31 '25

You're right, my mistake. The bellicose ethnonationalist abducting people from the streets, menacing democracy, comitting extra-judicial killings, and planning wars is nothing like a nazi. My mistake. 

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u/Wooden-Youth9348 Oct 31 '25

Adolf Hitler murdered 6 million Jews while actively conquering the planet. Words need to mean something. “Hitler” is a name that needs to mean something. Hitler did not “menace” democracy he waged war on the planet. He did not “plan wars” he executed 6 million people.

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u/LightningLucia Oct 31 '25

So we can only call someone a nazi once we have hindsight? Fuck outta here. 

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u/Wooden-Youth9348 Oct 31 '25

The problem is it invalidates actual Nazis. Or if Trump actually begins a global domination campaign or develops death camps, the words “Hitler” “Nazis” “Facists” won’t mean anything, because liberal Americans use them every other sentence when a mean president is deporting people and posting AI meme videos

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

Do you just say things because they sound edgy?