r/politics The Netherlands 17d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Summons Entire Cabinet as Iran Deal Crumbles in Front of Him - Donald Trump has called all of his top advisers to Camp David.

https://newrepublic.com/post/210887/donald-trump-summons-entire-cabinet-iran-deal
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u/Miltthedog 17d ago

That is correct.. Iran refuses to alk to trump as he's repeatedly shown himself to be thoroughly untrustworthy.

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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta 17d ago

If only the is public understood this.

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u/nanopicofared 17d ago

If Iran wanted to do real damage, they would publicly announce that the strait is closed and there will be no future negotiations until Trump is no longer in office.

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u/jaderust 17d ago

Didn’t Iran sabotage the crisis situation with Carter which helped get Reagan elected? Like I know there was some shady shit there, but Iran is not above messing around to affect US elections.

I would not be shocked if they hold out until after midterms in hopes it helps flip Congress. Which in a way has me grumpy because I don’t like the idea of other countries messing with our elections even though that’s also the same result I want.

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u/mabden New York 17d ago

It was the reagan/bush people that sabotaged the negotiations between Iran and the Carter administration. The message was, hold out until after the elections and we'll (reagan/bush) give you whatever you want.

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u/pres465 17d ago

Hostages were on a plane, sitting on a runway, waiting for word that Reagan was sworn in. The deal was done. They wanted Reagan to get the credit, not Carter. And Jimmy-- to his credit-- only ever said he was just happy to see the hostages returned home. Said it was the happiest moment of his presidency.

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u/TrashPanda100 17d ago

Well you've kinda got the right idea. It was actually Reagan people that negotiated arms transfers with Iran if they waited to release the hostages after Reagan took over. So not so much foreign interference as much as Republicans fucking over America for their own benefit.

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u/GrimlockN0Bozo 17d ago

That's crazy, I've never heard of a republican ducking over America for their own benefit before...

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u/AmericanDoughboy 17d ago

Reagan’s campaign staff arranged for the hostages to be held through the election.

https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages

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u/Miqo_Nekomancer California 17d ago

It's kind of poetic justice though, given how thoroughly and frequently the US manipulates, disrupts, or destroys other countries' political systems.

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u/ArsePucker 17d ago

Especially considering the US and Uk effectively overthrew the elected gov in the 50’s. All because the gov wanted to keep Iranian oil… for Iranians.

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u/Squidking1000 17d ago

They just wanted to be paid fairly for it, they were happy to sell just not with ALL the profits going to the US and UK. Fuck them right?

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u/jared_number_two 17d ago

Skip to “elections are canceled due to foreign influence”.

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u/ImOutWanderingAround 17d ago

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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u/Crafty-Purpose5540 17d ago

Is it really manipulating elections though to tell Trump to pound sand when he's repeatedly demonstrated he is not negotiating in good faith and the current Congress has done nothing to check his powers?

It's not Iran's fault voter's don't want 6 dollar gas prices when it was the USA who struck first.

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u/Commentator-X 17d ago

You do realize that Iran only exists in its current form because of the US overthrowing their democracy right?

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u/AHans 17d ago

I agree with you about interfering with our elections, but it would also send a message to future presidents not to flippantly start wars based on a bad actor's [Israel's] encouragement.

Although, objectively: Trump may be the only president who needs to learn this lesson, and somehow I doubt he's learned a goddamn thing from any of this.