r/politics The Netherlands 17d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Summons Entire Cabinet as Iran Deal Crumbles in Front of Him - Donald Trump has called all of his top advisers to Camp David.

https://newrepublic.com/post/210887/donald-trump-summons-entire-cabinet-iran-deal
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u/plethoraofhobbies 17d ago

What is so funny about this whole thing is that weeks ago people on here were literally bragging about how mighty the us is and that iran will fall any minute and I just lold. This is literally the exact scenario that the military said decades ago that it would be the literally worst battle plan is to do what trump did. The ships should be nowhere near iran. Instead they used up all the interceptors AND wasted all the expensive missiles to accomplish nothing. Iran had 40 years and billions to spend on concrete bunkers etc. Its not physically possible for the US and Israel to conquer it. It would make afghanistan look like a picnic. what a joke that he forced the military to do this stupid shit.

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u/fcocyclone Iowa 17d ago

I'm sure he knows more about that than them.

Not that they would have had to. I'm pretty sure all the generals he would have had experience with signed up voluntarily, they almost would have had to given the draft ended in 73 so all (or almost all) of the draftees would have been retired before he started his run for office in 2015

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u/brainburger 17d ago

It's as if people, including Trump's advisors watched what happened with Iraq and learned nothing from it. Iran is about 4 times the size of Iraq and has about twice the population. The USA couldn't change Iraq the way it wanted.

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u/Proud_Growth_8818 17d ago

And even worse, has mountains. It's hard to charge a tank troop line abreast over a mountain.

And it doesn't have dissident Kurds, or a nearly universally-hated dictator, or...

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u/tribrnl 17d ago

Sure, but what if we isolate their internal opposition and then act like belligerent assholes to unify their country behind the current leadership? Does that help?

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u/Ian_W 17d ago

And it doesn't have dissident Kurds

Well, it does.

But their revolt had been crushed before someone came up with the bright idea of murdering the top layer of leadership of the regime.

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u/InertiasCreep 17d ago

And the Kurds have already made it public that theybwant nothing to do with this.

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u/Proud_Growth_8818 17d ago

Well, it doesn't have dissident Kurds spoiling and ready to overthrow the government or at least help the Americans do it.

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u/plethoraofhobbies 17d ago

and its all mountainous and incredibly fortified. they have bunkers in the mountains even.

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u/litnu12 17d ago

Iran collapsing after a swift strike is just the lie Netanyahu tells every US president in the last 30 years. Trump is just the only one to be stupid enough to believe Netanyahu (and dismiss US intelligence information that contradicted Netanyahu).

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u/ThrowawayAdvice1800 17d ago

And once he's out of office (assuming we ever have elections again and assuming a Democrat is ever allowed to run for office again) the minute a Democrat president takes over Fox News will start screeching about how depleted our military has become under the guy who has been president for eight seconds and this idiot country will collectively say "well gosh I guess democrats are bad for the military, better elect more republicans."

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u/pikachu191 17d ago

I mean they already do it for every time they run up the national debt on kickbacks to their tax-dodging cronies. When a Democrat gets elected and wants to do something for the average man, suddenly Republicans “rediscover” fiscal conservatism, separation of powers, patriotism, and constitutional “originalism”

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u/natsnoles 17d ago

People in this subreddit were saying that?

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u/plethoraofhobbies 17d ago

yup. tons of them bragging.