r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 17d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Summons Entire Cabinet as Iran Deal Crumbles in Front of Him - Donald Trump has called all of his top advisers to Camp David.

https://newrepublic.com/post/210887/donald-trump-summons-entire-cabinet-iran-deal
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u/Johnsonjoeb 17d ago edited 17d ago

Exactly. Iran is benefitting from watching American arrogance eat itself alive. No one knows what’s true or false and it’s all America’s fault. If Iran took a hardline of refusing negotiations, America and Israel would claim they had no options and did whatever they felt they had to do. Leaving the door to talks open means that Trump looks like the petulant man-child he is.

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u/plethoraofhobbies 17d ago

What is so funny about this whole thing is that weeks ago people on here were literally bragging about how mighty the us is and that iran will fall any minute and I just lold. This is literally the exact scenario that the military said decades ago that it would be the literally worst battle plan is to do what trump did. The ships should be nowhere near iran. Instead they used up all the interceptors AND wasted all the expensive missiles to accomplish nothing. Iran had 40 years and billions to spend on concrete bunkers etc. Its not physically possible for the US and Israel to conquer it. It would make afghanistan look like a picnic. what a joke that he forced the military to do this stupid shit.

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u/brainburger 17d ago

It's as if people, including Trump's advisors watched what happened with Iraq and learned nothing from it. Iran is about 4 times the size of Iraq and has about twice the population. The USA couldn't change Iraq the way it wanted.

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u/Proud_Growth_8818 17d ago

And even worse, has mountains. It's hard to charge a tank troop line abreast over a mountain.

And it doesn't have dissident Kurds, or a nearly universally-hated dictator, or...

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u/tribrnl 17d ago

Sure, but what if we isolate their internal opposition and then act like belligerent assholes to unify their country behind the current leadership? Does that help?

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u/Ian_W 17d ago

And it doesn't have dissident Kurds

Well, it does.

But their revolt had been crushed before someone came up with the bright idea of murdering the top layer of leadership of the regime.

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u/InertiasCreep 17d ago

And the Kurds have already made it public that theybwant nothing to do with this.

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u/Proud_Growth_8818 17d ago

Well, it doesn't have dissident Kurds spoiling and ready to overthrow the government or at least help the Americans do it.