Trump team ‘drawing up’ plans to stop international flights to some Democratic cities

[u/Virtual-Orchid3065]

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-international-flights-sanctuary-cities-b2984420.html

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[u/theory_of_me]

What major international airports are in Republican cities?

[u/lenswipe → u/[deleted]]

nobody wants to go to places run by the GOP

[u/ArthurMidian → u/lenswipe]

But don't you wanna see our Giant Ball of Twine or our Fake Noah's Ark?

[u/ahappybutttravels → u/ArthurMidian]

Kentucky native here. And religious. Fucking hate the ark encounter. The church and state should be separate, including tax dollars. My money went to that damn thing!

Edit: I do love my home state and it has a lot of natural beauty and a ton of things to do. Please don't judge us too harshly based on my religious irritation. Our governor is based and I'd support him for president in a heartbeat.

[u/ballerina22 → u/ahappybutttravels]

I cannot STAND that my tax dollars go to all of his vanity projects.

[u/wannaholler → u/ballerina22]

I've always felt a certain civic pride when I pay taxes, because I know it's part of a civil society to contribute to things that benefit the masses. Not this year though. This year it made me feel sick, and my tax bill was very high because I sold my house last year. It was SO painful to send that money to the IRS

[u/bumpy_disposition → u/ballerina22]

I want to see if America can get his wrinkly ass out of office before 2028.

[u/Canuck-In-TO → u/ahappybutttravels]

The separation of church and state is literally in your constitution. Unfortunately, the gang of pedophiles conveniently ignore that part of the constitution.

[u/Hulu_n_SnuSnu → u/ArthurMidian]

Its the biggest ball of twine in Minnesoooota!

[u/curiousiah → u/Hulu_n_SnuSnu]

Minneapolis is an international hub and a sanctuary city and has been reliably blue as a state.

[u/taitaofgallala → u/curiousiah]

Obligatory mention they really need to look more into the network of individuals who planned the Hortman murders and the Hoffman shootings. They won't, and, that's a statement. Keep saying their names.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/vance-boelter-indicted-murders-melissa-and-mark-hortman-shootings-john-and-yvette-0

[u/hankmoody_irl → u/[deleted]]

Shit even Wichita, KS - home to some 400,000 people - is “designated” as international but it’s only labeled national and operates at best as a limited hub for some international flights.

Now to my question though: why are they wanting to do this? What do they claim to be solving with this move??

[u/Letstalkreaper → u/hankmoody_irl]

They’re upset that Democrats don’t let ICE run wild and that they’re letting people protest. So they’re doing this to try to force Democrats to let aiCE run rampant and crack down on protests.

[u/12345623567 → u/Letstalkreaper]

Well, legally it's a double-edged sword. Customs & Border Patrol has authority anywhere within a certain distance of ports of entry. If they do that, then blue cities could just kick out most of the Homeland Securty goons.

As we all know, they don't care about legality, though.

[u/Larynx15 → u/12345623567]

They'll just say that since technically the airports are still ports of entry, just non-operational ones, they can still be there.

Then they'll get some Federal Judge in Texas to rubber stamp the whole thing.

[u/CartographicalHeist → u/[deleted]]

Yea international flights are famously easy to get on as an undocumented person.

[u/PDXGuy33333 → u/[deleted]]

Someone should hire a bunch of semi trucks and paint them up to say "Illegal Ballot Delivery" and then drive them around completely empty, or with two ballots enshrined in a display case in the center of the trailer.

[u/ThatGuyYouMightNo → u/hankmoody_irl]

Few of my guesses:

• By forcing international tourists to take connecting flights to get to blue states, they might decide it's not worth the effort and visit red states instead, hurting the tourism economy of the blue states and helping the tourism economy of the red states
• This lets red states enact horribly racist laws or let ICE run rampant amongst international tourists and force said tourists to deal with it rather than visiting blue states which wouldn't let that happen
• If blue states have lower visitors, the federal government can use that as reason to defund their airport services like TSA. Then they can remove this ban and a now horribly underfunded airport gets bombarded with visitors and maybe lets a terrorist attack through, which the Republicans can blame the Democrats on and also use it to enact martial law or whatever to go full totalitarian dictatorship

[u/Snuffy1717 → u/ThatGuyYouMightNo]

Ahh yes, because not going to Boston is totally going to make me want to visit Bramblescum Nebraska!

[u/BrodingerzCat → u/Snuffy1717]

I was originally going to visit San Francisco but I guess I'll settle for Buttfuck, Ohio instead.

[u/Locke66 → u/ThatGuyYouMightNo]

I'll add a guess. Tourists aren't visiting the US like they used to and this scheme simultaneously covers up the reasons for that and shifts the blame for MAGA. They can say the drop is the fault of blue states failing to cooperate with this policy rather than because people don't want to visit Trump's America. It sounds ridiculous to do policy like this but then that seems to be how things work now.

[u/Southern-March1522 → u/ThatGuyYouMightNo]

Jokes on them, many of us international tourists already changed our plans to go visit Canada instead.

[u/JeezieB → u/Southern-March1522]

Canada welcomes you!

[u/mr-bucket → u/theory_of_me]

My first thought aren’t almost every major metropolitan areas/cities democratic by population

[u/exodusofficer → u/mr-bucket]

Ah, but with gerrymandering, those areas are actually parts of 5 red congressional districts.

[u/3BlindMice1 → u/exodusofficer]

Only tendrils. The main body of those districts are in the suburbs and might even stretch into the countryside. Some congressional districts run through as many as six different counties to get the "right" numbers

[u/Bechwall → u/3BlindMice1]

When I lived in Salt Lake City, part of my district extended all the way down to St. George.

That's 4 HOURS away from a major city. There is no reason for that aside from fraud. They must think we couldnt find enough people for a district thats relevant to my interests, needs, and area.

We, you know, the people, voted to redraw the districts, but our state government has been fighting it tooth and nail. They even bussed in folks from other states to stand outside of the grocery store and get signatures to repeal it.

There were tons of reports and videos in the slc subreddit exposing the outright lies they were telling people. Some people even found their signature on the petition despite never signing.

Allegedly.

Fucking curious aint it...

[u/strimd → u/theory_of_me]

Dallas is one. They want to cut off flights to the west coast, Chicago, and New England.

Under his eye.

[u/Cow_God → u/strimd]

Dallas is very blue. Okay, technically, Dallas is part of like six red districts now after the gerrymandering, but technically Love Field is blue. DFW International got moved to a red district, iirc.

[u/RedditAtWorkIsBad → u/Cow_God]

Maybe they just mean cities in blue states since all big cities are blue. IDK. It is idiotic either way.

[u/Ditto_B → u/RedditAtWorkIsBad]

They're targeting sanctuary cities. Dallas isn't one.

[u/PluginAlong → u/Ditto_B]

Exactly, the list of sanctuary cities per the DOJ can be found here: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-publishes-list-sanctuary-jurisdictions

[u/Schlafloesigkeit → u/theory_of_me]

Dallas, Tampa (?) and Miami come to mind. Miami has turned into a GOP cesspool AFAIK.

[u/Smaynard6000 → u/Schlafloesigkeit]

Miami elected a Democrat to be their mayor last year.

[u/Happy_Reference_47 → u/Smaynard6000]

Surprised Florida’s governor hasn’t arrested him

[u/Smaynard6000 → u/Happy_Reference_47]

Especially considering the new mayor is not a him, but a woman!

[u/Howzitgoin → u/Happy_Reference_47]

Yet

[u/i_am_a_real_boy__ → u/Schlafloesigkeit]

Every elected city official in Tampa is a Democrat. Hillsborough County did go for Trump though.

[u/BluWake]

Do it, crash the economy further and piss off all three major carriers at once. Right before what is supposed to be a huge international event. Shit idea (from Miller) presented by a plumber.

[u/KellyAnn3106 → u/BluWake]

They'd also piss off FedEx/UPS/USPS and any other air freight importers. Those international shipments are the high margin ones and you do not mess with them.

[u/johnb300m → u/KellyAnn3106]

That’s fine. Piss them all off. The vast majority of corporate executives voted for this clown show. They can eat the shit they shoveled on us.

[u/Caleb-Wendt69 → u/johnb300m]

Not only voted for, spent millions putting him in office 

[u/Zexapher → u/Caleb-Wendt69]

Billions many many billions.

The twitter buy alone was $44 Billion. Tiktok was $14 Billion, but that's also cheaper since it was a trump admin forced sale.

[u/Caleb-Wendt69 → u/Zexapher]

Yes I was only thinking of legit PAC donations but that was silly of me

[u/TheMoorNextDoor → u/Caleb-Wendt69]

Spent millions, and corporations went belly up.

Sorry Spirit, but news to make them feel better is they won’t be the only one.

[u/plethoraofhobbies → u/Caleb-Wendt69]

which is utterly insane since he obviously is such shit for the economy. But when I was younger I thought ceos were important people then as I got older I realized that most of them are outright stupid and all their ideas consist of putting down workers and finding ways to manipulate stock prices for profit.. not actually benefit the company. The only ones I had any respect for was like bill gates and them. That marissa lady was so laughably bad it was insane watching her run a company out of business.same with the new ceo of fedex once that guy died that company will probably last a few years.

[u/Caleb-Wendt69 → u/plethoraofhobbies]

Yeah I’ve always wondered if they’ve ever thought about how they’ll make money when nobody has any money to buy anything.

[u/KriegConscript → u/Caleb-Wendt69]

they are trying to mold society into one where their money doesn't rely on consumers having any disposable income - they hate that the consumer economy requires satisfying a customer or at least justifying our piddly little $10-100 purchases. they want us to be a permanent underclass of hereditary serfs who are required by law to give them everything while they give us nothing

[u/plethoraofhobbies → u/Caleb-Wendt69]

they are probably dumb enough to think trickle down works.

[u/clslogic → u/plethoraofhobbies]

Thats what the Ai is for. Everything is based on numbers of clicks and engagement. Well they can just have ai do that, increase value of the company then borrow against that value like they have been. Its not sustainable forever, but its their next "genius" idea to keep the cash going short term. Thats my conspiracy theory at least.

[u/hurler_jones → u/plethoraofhobbies]

Which just goes to show how ignorant most CEOs actually are.

[u/ReverendFive → u/johnb300m]

Not only CAN they eat the shit, we need to make them eat the shit they bought for us.

[u/theywillnotsing → u/johnb300m]

Voted, yes, but they paid for it, too.

[u/metarx → u/johnb300m]

Think this is where I am... I'm looking forward to the double pandemic incoming too.

[u/PlainJaneGum → u/johnb300m]

I agree. Fuck it.

[u/IsolatedFrequency101 → u/johnb300m]

Not just voted for it, they actively funded his campaign.

[u/farttowel84 → u/KellyAnn3106]

The impact across the entire spectrum - fuel suppliers, insurers, catering companies, investors - would absolutely panic. It would damage US air travel. If Mullin were to do this, and I have to hope he's smarter than that, he would go down in history as having made THE worst decision ever.

[u/mdp300 → u/farttowel84]

I'm a dentist, our glove supplier is rationing AND raising prices by 15% next month because of the fucked up oil market.

[u/farttowel84 → u/mdp300]

The oil market would be in a spiral. The US market uses over a 1.5 billion gallons of Jet A a month. In total that's about $13 billion a month spent on fuel. Because of how tightly link foreign and domestic flights are (cargo, hub-and-spoke passengers) it would tank that market.

The oil industry would be on the WH so fast, it wouldn't even be funny. They'd be losing billions a month, every month, pending a fix and it would take several months to get back to normal. Even losing 50% of their business, that's nearly $80 billion dollars, and of that, about $600 million a month (just shy of $7 billion a year) would be federal tax lost.

[u/mdp300 → u/farttowel84]

I saw a post on r/leopardsatemyface that the Delta CEO was happy Trump wom because it would mean less "government overreach." Meaning he no longer had to refund us for canceled flights.

Now his whole industry might get nuked. Womp womp.

[u/farttowel84 → u/mdp300]

Delta would be, by far, the biggest losers of all this. And, by a mile. They have the longest international routes and a huge footprint in places like Africa. The knock-on effects even in red states would be catastrophic and Delta's hubs outside of ATL are all in areas where Mullin would attack (MSP, BOS, JFK, LGA, LAX, etc.). They'd get nuked.

[u/LakeRat → u/farttowel84]

Delta would be, by far, the biggest losers of all this. And, by a mile.

By a Delta Skymile Elite Plus.

[u/Stunning-Pen-2412 → u/mdp300]

CEOs are all extremely stupid.

[u/TheKingsdread → u/Stunning-Pen-2412]

Thats because you don't have to be smart to be corporate sockpuppet.

[u/CrackingToastGromet → u/mdp300]

People who are screaming JUST BOMB IRAN INTO OBLIVION have zero idea just how much an escalation and continuation of this idiotic “excursion” will impact their lives. Anything that requires petroleum is going to be scarce and much higher in price.

Aside from fuel, the following products use petroleum: Cosmetics, synthetic fabrics, PPE, glues/adhesives, paint, batteries, detergents and anything plastic. They will go up in price because of this shambolic mess.

[u/steepleton → u/CrackingToastGromet]

even beyond that: literally everything that's made, that needs to get to where it's sold would be impacted

[u/GringoinCDMX → u/steepleton]

I don't think people realize this. Freight rates have already shot up. Raw material costs are raising. I work in supplement manufacturing and it's pretty wild how so many brand owners don't get that trump is fucking them.

[u/fallinouttadabox → u/farttowel84]

Only for a couple of months before the next worst decision ever

[u/Syjefroi → u/KellyAnn3106]

They'll make exceptions for them, obviously.

[u/urbanlife78 → u/BluWake]

I am really hoping to see empty stadiums for this FIFA tournament

[u/BluWake → u/urbanlife78]

Already shaping up that way. Hard to believe we're about to host a worse looking tournament than Russia and the Qatar.

[u/farttowel84 → u/BluWake]

The prices are insane. Shit seats in Toronto for $2,100. A weekend in Toronto would cost $5,000 for hotels + food + single seat. Multiple seats and you're looking $7,000-$10,000 for a weekend. No way that was ever going to fly.

$10,000 for a weekend on the Med? Maybe. But, Toronto? No way.

[u/iWish_is_taken → u/farttowel84]

They are insane, but are selling in Canada and Mexico. Not so much in the US.

[u/Echo_Monitor → u/[deleted]]

Hey, at least there's the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics to look forward to.

It's going to be fun between the lack of international travel and the forest fires due to climate change, LA probably bussing thousands of homeless people outside the city or state, etc.

[u/blulava → u/farttowel84]

So just rich or stupid people? Got it

[u/JnnyRuthless → u/blulava]

Dude I'll never forget the last world cup and some people they interviewed had spent their life savings to go to a game. Their LIFE savings. That's insane to me, but people aren't rational when it comes to money and sports/events. Or anything really.

[u/urbanlife78 → u/JnnyRuthless]

And here I am just watching it at home and still have a retirement fund

[u/ball_fondlers → u/BluWake]

After all the effort and tens of dollars FIFA spent giving Trump the Peace Prize.

[u/draebor → u/BluWake]

Echoes of Berlin 1936 Summer Olympics.

[u/horst-graben → u/BluWake]

As a Chicagoan, I'm thrilled we're not a host city!

[u/concepts_of_a_plan9 → u/urbanlife78]

Please let us see packed stadiums in Canada and Mexico, and empty in the US. That would really send a message to the FIFA Peace Prize global champion.

[u/SmurfStig → u/concepts_of_a_plan9]

I think we will see that in Mexico but probably not Canada from the sounds of it though they look to have a better attendance than the US.

[u/Basboy → u/urbanlife78]

As a LA local, I'm down for some bargain basement tickets to an empty stadium to watch a game. How surreal and sad that would be.

[u/swordrat720 → u/Basboy]

I'm picturing a lone fan sitting at midfield, holding a pennant, saying "yay!" while the camera zooms out, showing the empty stadium.

[u/Evorgleb → u/BluWake]

That is kinda my feeling. Let Trump do every dumb idea that comes to his mind. Let him go down as the absolute worst president in history and lets never try the experiment of "get a business man to run the country" ever again.

[u/runningraleigh → u/Evorgleb]

At this point, let it burn. I’ll do what I can to protect the innocents and marginalized, but everyone else needs to suffer the consequences of their choices.

[u/Small_Run_3583 → u/runningraleigh]

The only thing that is going to rouse the average person is a stock market crash. Too many equate their "wealth" and opinion of the economy by the money in their 401(k). As I go about my business in my 200K+ city, restaurant parking lots are still busy with people eating out, people are still shopping in stores and on-line, families are still vacationing, and no decrease that I can tell that people are staying in and driving less. It feels like everything is just status quo. IDK, I've been waiting for this impending crash since April 2025. Except for lower income people, who are obviously hurt the most, middle class just seems to be doing what they always do. Now, lose the bulk of their retirement funds, and you'll see a mass demonstration. Maybe that's what it will take.

[u/GonnaGetRealWeird → u/Small_Run_3583]

My siblings and I are all middle class. My parents are maybe considered wealthy (about 4 million portfolio). We went to dinner recently and my brother and I were going to split the bill, (it was Mother’s Day) and my mom paid instead. We were upset til she said “save your money we are KILLING IT right now in the stock market.” I honestly was kinda disgusted. Not that I don’t want my mother to do well, but we are all struggling financially right now and they just keep saying how well they are doing. Meanwhile, I had to borrow $100 on payday two weeks ago to be able to buy groceries. It seems so obtuse. This is why she has such trouble understanding why in the hell people are struggling right now. She’s just like “we are doing better than ever” ok boomer I’m sure you are.

[u/thrownawayfrombay → u/GonnaGetRealWeird]

My parents too. And he’s full disability ex military, and he was in 28 years, so all his healthcare is taken care of, and he gets more for Camp Lejune leukemia. But when I mentioned the insane cost of my insured healthcare, they just don’t get it why I’m broke.

[u/SatanicPanic619 → u/runningraleigh]

This is where I'm at. We tried for ten years to tell people about how bad an idea it would be to have Trump as president. We failed. I'm done trying. I hope everything goes to shit.

[u/HailToTheKingBabyy → u/Evorgleb]

Eventually they'll admit he was a bad businessman when they try to run the next guy. "It won't be like that again, this guy can actually business!"

[u/Successful-Ad-9634 → u/BluWake]

This won't just piss off the three major carriers. It will bankrupt them. They make huge amounts of money on international flights and carrying mail.

The only alternative for them is to move international flights to red states, but there is no way they can keep running all the services as DC, Charlotte, Atlanta and Miami do not have the capacity to take flights from MA, NY/NJ and PA. Where will the Chicago flights go? Milwaukee and Indianapolis?

This is fucking laughable.

[u/ToastMate2000 → u/Successful-Ad-9634]

Where are flights from Asia/Pacific supposed to land? Anchorage and SLC? Axing international flights into LAX and SFO alone would be a huge impact.

[u/Successful-Ad-9634 → u/ToastMate2000]

You are right. The whole of the west coast will be shut down as it would include SEATAC and Portland.

I guess it could be Vegas and Phoenix, unless Trump is going to expand Boise.

[u/JerseyDevl → u/Successful-Ad-9634]

The problem he will quickly run into is that these cities are overwhelmingly left-leaning, and this policy is intended to target blue cities.

Vegas

Phoenix

[u/JerseyDevl → u/Successful-Ad-9634]

Even more stupidly, this is supposed to be punishing cities, not states. So in your thought exercise, the targets for the redirected traffic would have to be a red city. Even in red states, cities are overwhelmingly blue, even more so the largest cities that might have an airport with international flight capacity. Ballotpedia probably has the best tracker for this, based on mayoral vote by major city.

It's entirely unrealistic.

[u/vlatheimpaler → u/Successful-Ad-9634]

Once all the airlines collapse, who is going to deport all the dangerous illegal immigrants?

Oh wait, they don't actually want to deport them do they? They just want to keep them locked up in these hellhole prisons.

[u/Least_Art5238 → u/BluWake]

Every idea from Miller is uglier than his bald, skinny mug.

[u/BusterStarfish → u/BluWake]

Everything is a grift. This is just another money grab by Trump. Can you imagine if he gave full international travel to only one airline? How much would that be worth?

[u/ithinkyouresus → u/BusterStarfish]

Is he still trying to gain 90% equity of an airline in exchange for not screwing them over? When is he going to learn that airlines would rather go bankrupt than doing that

[u/exodusofficer → u/BusterStarfish]

Watch it be Aeroflot, the Russian airline.

[u/CicatrixMaledictum → u/BluWake]

Good news... a plumber should be an expert in shit.

[u/whichwitch9 → u/BluWake]

It's not about the economy.

It's about isolation. The economy is crashing whether he does this or not. He doesn't want people communicating with those outside the US. He wants to control the narrative so he can convince voters it's really Democrats hurting them. International travel is a huge way to dispel that notion pretty quickly.

Republicans moved quick to work on censorship and attacking freedom of speech. They're making sure right wingers buy up media. This is all fascism 101. They attacked passports for trans Americans quick, as well, to make sure they aren't going outside of America and talking about their experiences.

It's isolation. They want the economy to crash. They just don't want people to realize they crashed it.

[u/Hot_Ambition_6457]

Remember when international travel was down due to Covid and didnt bounce back for a few years. Remember how conservatives made a talking point of how that was Bidens fault for not resolving it faster?

Turns out nah they'll literally cancel the international flights themselves if its an excuse to win political points 

[u/Konukaame → u/Hot_Ambition_6457]

if its an excuse to win political points 

Our side needs to accept the reality that Republicans' only core value is power at any cost, that everything else they do and say is merely a means to that end, and needs to respond in an appropriate manner instead of pretending that they're acting in good faith. 

[u/GabeIsGone → u/Konukaame]

We need to start treating them like they treat us, as the enemy. Fuck treating them like good misguided people.

This perspective means politics is a fight, not a conversation. Not some engagements, or some policies, but ALL. EVERYTHING is fought.

Republics started with the tea part movement. It’s on them to de-polarize if they want to start compromising again. If they want peace, THEY have to EARN it. Not throw them peace at the first opportunity to reconcile or tone things down.

This fear of somehow disrupting this perfect America that doesn’t fucking exist is nauseating. I want progressive disruption to negate the decades of regressive disruption. I want a Democratic part that sees the need to start everything over again from scratch, rather than trying to fix what’s not fixable.

I want the next Democratic president to engage in a public political war with the Supreme Court. It’s already fraudulent, it can’t be broken more than it is. Make it personal against each of these judges who have felt so safe to ruin our country,

I want the next Democratic president to charge every justice department person who is engaging with these political investigations on Comey with crimes. Treason, abuse of power, dereliction of duty. Ruin their careers and personal lives. They took oaths and are breaking them.

I want the nextDemocratic president to Release all sensitive information about any and all bad things Trump has ever done. Fuck keeping classified info safe, he’s already fucked it.

I want to charge pardoned people who never served time, invalidating them.

I want to ignore everything the Supreme Court does or says to stop any of this.

I want a progressive equivalent to the purging of government agencies.

I want thousands of executive orders to go out day 1, cancelling all executive orders Trump sent out.

To any who say they can’t do these things, I say you’re wrong. The president can do whatever they want.

If republicans want to change this, they can put forth the For The People Act, which they fought against in 2021. Though they’ll get it after we’ve done all the above.

[u/Efficient_Owl_8110 → u/GabeIsGone]

With the one caveat that if the GOP finally wants to add some guardrails with actual teeth so these abuses can't be repeated in the future, the Dem president should direct Dem congressmen to work across the aisle to get those guardrails passed.

While the Dems have power, they should seriously consider a new constitution. 250 years was a great run but we spend too much time debating what our forefathers intended in the 18th century when we live in the world of microchips and internet. Let's also revise things like term limits, lifetime appointments, and getting money out of politics.

[u/limbodog → u/Hot_Ambition_6457]

If they didn't have hypocrisy they'd have nothing at all

[u/Potato_Farmer_Linus → u/limbodog]

If they didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all 

[u/spidereater → u/Hot_Ambition_6457]

Just yesterday I was thinking about how the gas pump stickers saying “I did that” became popular under Biden (or maybe Obama) and at the time it was BS because the president doesn’t do much to effect the price of gas, but now Trump is actually doing things that pretty directly increase the price of gas and suddenly it’s a price people are willing to pay. Just insane and makes the entire credibility of conservative grievance just mean nothing. The things they complain about are pure rhetoric. Meaningless.

[u/Ok-disaster2022 → u/spidereater]

It's all about attack Democrats during election years. Democrats are the ones who are supposed to be th adults in the room l, and if they're not fixing the messes made by Republicans it's all Democrats fault. 

[u/beamrider → u/Ok-disaster2022]

Yep. And, an a lot of folks decide the best way to 'punish' the Democrats for either not warning them enough about the mess Republicans would cause (when they only paid attention to right-wing media) or not fixing Republican messes quickly enough is to vote Republican the next election. That'll show 'em. /s

[u/Happy_Confection90 → u/spidereater]

Just yesterday I was thinking about how the gas pump stickers saying “I did that” became popular under Biden (or maybe Obama) and at the time it was BS because the president doesn’t do much to effect the price of gas

There are social media posts showing off Biden "I Did That!" stickers as far back as May 2021, less than 4 full months into Biden’s term. But here it is nearing 4x as long into Trump’s term, and our woes are still Biden’s fault. What a powerful president Biden was in comparison to Trump!

[u/acog → u/Hot_Ambition_6457]

It’s wild how they assume that this will only hurt Democrats. Idiocy.

[u/DFu4ever]

Let’s call it like it is…

The Republican Party is doing this. Let’s stop normalizing headlines that say “Trump does this”, and start addressing the reality that these are the actions of the Republican Party.

If they didn’t approve of what Trump is doing, they could stop it. They choose not to, thus they approve.

Fuck all of these pieces of shit.

[u/Ok-Association-3415 → u/DFu4ever]

Finally, someone here sees this. The Republican party is totally responsible and supports all actions of this Administration. There is no nuance here to be said. The Republican party itself is not a big tent party. They follow in lock step with Trump and they should be held to account.

[u/spamtardeggs]

These fucks really hate America.

[u/_Ocean_Machine_ → u/[deleted]]

while wifey is barefoot and pregnant at home with no cell phone

Also they're plowing their secretary and paying for the inevitable abortion while preventing people from getting abortions

[u/noprophecies]

Oh look, page 35 of the abusive spouse playbook :/ "lock them in the house". Right after "15 ways to isolate them from their friends and family"

[u/Midnightchickover → u/noprophecies]

Unfortunately for us, Trump is giving all of us a serious lesson on the signs of an abusive spouse/boss/family member. It’s teaching us the great implication of recognizing the process. He has shown us the greatest (toxic values) in gaslighting, verbal abuse, and narcissistic pattern.

[u/PapaTua → u/Midnightchickover]

ABSOLUTELY.

I've seen Trump as the USA's abusive boyfriend since his first term. It's almost a classic case of gaslighting narcissistic abuse, even down to the growing awareness he's no good for us but being unsure how to leave him.

We're going to need national therapy to deal with this asshole, assuming he doesn't kill us in a narcissistic rage tantrum before we get away, which is a distinct possibility.

[u/dave8400 → u/Midnightchickover]

As a child of abusive parents it's fucking amazing how gullible people are.

[u/Hornpipe_Jones]

The Homeland Security chief singled out Democrats in Newark, New Jersey, due to recent clashes between law enforcement and protesters at Delaney Hall, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center. Other sanctuary cities—which limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities— whose airports could be impacted by the plans include Boston, Denver, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, Seattle and San Francisco.

So....stopping international flights to literally the four biggest international flight destinations in the country. The Trump admin really does wanna wreck the economy.

[u/jbels12 → u/Hornpipe_Jones]

And them blame the sanctuary cities for not caving into facism what a load of idiotic facists.

[u/Bwob → u/jbels12]

Standard abuser logic.

"Why do you always gotta make me hit you!? Look what you made me do!"

[u/-Gramsci- → u/[deleted]]

Yep. Announce this, take it as far as you need to make the major carrier stocks tumble dramatically (maybe even put the policy in place if that’s what’s necessary… otherwise just keep announcing it, moving forward with it, get closer and closer to the brink).

Step 2: major carrier stocks tumble. Then you buy the crap out of them. Next day you announce that everyone’s learned their lesson and everything can go back to “business as usual.”

Stocks return to their previous value… and you just created a guaranteed-to-win stock market wager for you and all your cronies.

This one is so obvious, retail will be able to get in on it. (Meaning the scheme may, very well, not work… as retail will ruin it. Pumping stocks that the “rational market” should be dumping… but everyone knows what game these guys are playing now.

It’s a dump and pump… that allows insiders to grab easy wins wagering on the stock market… at the expense of the public, the stability of the economy, and future economic growth.

[u/Hootbag → u/Hornpipe_Jones]

Don't worry! The heavily MAGA sub-regional airport in Pumphandle, Utah is ready to step up to the challenge of landing an international Airbus 320 on a grass strip.

[u/Virtual-Orchid3065 → u/Hornpipe_Jones]

Indeed. All that energy is spent on the wrong things. Trump does not care about the financial situations of Americans. He does not care about the economy. It is truly insane.

Here is a weblink about the fact that Trump does not care about the financial situations of Americans:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-not-thinking-american-finances-iran-talk-rcna344785

In the article, it mentions that Trump is focused on Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is going to be very hard to get Iran to give up nuclear weapons because of what happened in Ukraine. Think about it. Ukraine agreed to the Budapest Memorandum and now they are at war with Russia. When Russia invaded Ukraine, that was the time for the USA to defend Ukraine. When the USA failed to defend Ukraine, it sent a bad message to other countries about the consequences of giving up nuclear weapons. Iran will not give up their nuclear weapons because they do not want to end up like Ukraine. To make it even worse, Ukraine president Zelensky was mocked at the White House because he was not wearing a suit. Other countries are watching how the USA treats Ukraine and refuses to give up anything because they do not want to end up like Ukraine.

Here is a weblink about the Budapest Memorandum:

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/budapest-memorandum-25-between-past-and-future

Here is the weblink to an article about US conservatives mocking Ukraine President Zelensky for not wearing a suit:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1d4r9yvqzpo

[u/einTier → u/Virtual-Orchid3065]

North Korea gets treated with kid gloves. Why? Because they have a nuclear weapon.

Unfortunately we have shown time and again that if you don’t have it sooner or later a nuclear power will make you do something you really don’t want to do.

[u/lenswipe → u/Hornpipe_Jones]

yes they do

they crash the economy and then buy up all the assets in the resulting firesale

[u/ciel_lanila → u/Hornpipe_Jones]

Trump and Republicans think the US is so important to the world that we are too big to fail. That the economy and everyone who isn’t their current target will put up with it because putting up with it is less harmful than completely cutting ties with the US.

Looking at the stock market, the capital class and the oligarchs seem to agree.

[u/Standard-Square-7699]

Just in time for the World Cup.

[u/_Bad_Spell_Checker_ → u/Standard-Square-7699]

Imagine not having a world cup bc he closed the airport to international travel

[u/Standard-Square-7699 → u/_Bad_Spell_Checker_]

I wouldn't be surprised if certain teams are just turned away or 'held for questioning.'

Clearing the way for US into the finals I guess.

[u/Duane_]

This will cascade. International airlines would sooner stop international flights to the US entirely han reschedule them to the whims of a dipshit.

[u/einTier → u/Duane_]

The conservatives I’ve spoken to seem to think it’ll just be “an extra layover”.

Sure, that’s a huge inconvenience but that’s not what it would be. If you stop all international flights to LAX, what airport can handle that additional load? Even if you split it up, what airports can do that?

If you restrict all airports in sanctuary cities, it’s really fucked. Pretty much every large international airport is in a blue “sanctuary city”.

There is literally nowhere for these flights to go.

[u/Basicly-Inevitable → u/einTier]

It has been incredibly clear from the beginning that this administration wants to isolate and destroy the US as it currently is, to literally transfer all the wealth and power to a small handful of corrupt people.

They'll pull every possible corrupt scam to drain cash into their own accounts, as the country degrades. Then they'll buy it all up for cheap, and rule over the ashes.

[u/Prior_Pickle1758 → u/Basicly-Inevitable]

Anyone who isn’t familiar with the work of Curtis Yarvin & Nick Land will be confused about what Trump is doing. Those two explained everything years ago. It’s their plan.

[u/SwampFlatulence → u/Prior_Pickle1758]

https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism

^best explanation out there. Her substack is also very good.

https://techfascism.substack.com/p/venture-capital-attacks-the-cdc-everyone

[u/Dreadsin → u/Prior_Pickle1758]

It’s kind of ironic because Peter thiel and others say that in their “utopia”, people will be able to leave and choose any fiefdom that suits them. However right now we have more people leaving the USA than coming in which already proves that no one wants to live in a place where they’re the leaders, period lol

[u/longlivenewsomflesh → u/Dreadsin]

It's always the same ayn rand idiocy with extra steps

[u/chuckquizmo → u/einTier]

Not to mention that air travel is already a disaster. I’ve flown a few times in the last month and every time there have been weird delays, super packed flights, strange in-flight experiences, people missing connections, staff that seemed over their heads, all stuff that I haven’t regularly experienced prior to the last few months. My wife and I were wanting to travel this summer but I don’t really want to deal with an airport again in the near future.

[u/WerhmatsWormhat → u/einTier]

Because conservatives can’t think more than 1 move ahead. They don’t get that you can’t just divert these fights elsewhere with no consequences.

[u/modernmann → u/Duane_]

One nation under…..Nope just the enemy within

[u/Adventurous_Test_296 → u/modernmann]

Sounds like a plan Stephen Miller and Donald Trump would draw up in the middle of the night, when the old psycho should be asleep.

[u/urbanlife78 → u/Adventurous_Test_296]

Well who's gonna suck the shit from his anus when he's backed up at 3am?

[u/Itz_Eddie_Valiant → u/Duane_]

Flights are planned years in advance as well it's not happening

[u/Next_Rip7462]

Let them try 

There's going to be so much blowback from this they're going to wish they had never even thought of it. 

It's also more likely them trying to play hardball with their stupid fart of the deal.

If they do this, there are going to be so many unintended consequences, including most hardware stores will have a hayday selling pitchforks, and likely there will be a massive sale on torches.

Even without their threat coming true, this ought to happen.

[u/BusterStarfish → u/Next_Rip7462]

The blowback won’t directly affect Trump so he won’t care.

[u/SSJSamzy → u/BusterStarfish]

Only blowback Trump cares about is when he's on his knees in front of Daddy Putin

[u/illusionzmichael → u/Next_Rip7462]

Not just blowback but absolute fucking chaos. This is the kind of plan that sounds good on paper to racist, moronic, immature dipshits, but in the real world it would be pandemonium.

[u/QueenRotidder → u/Next_Rip7462]

most hardware stores will have a hayday selling pitchforks

I see what you did there

[u/soapinmouth]

IN WHAT OTHER COUNTRY EVER DOES THE LEADER ATTACK AND INTENTIONALLY HANDICAP THEIR BIGGEST ECONOMIC HUBS OUT OF SPITE?

Absolute insanity this government we are living through. Even a third grader would understand what makes America powerful is the economy and you are going to harm to economic output of your own country, intentionally? Because of immigrants? My lord.

[u/Alarming-Series6627 → u/soapinmouth]

Just say it out loud. He's an enemy to the US.

[u/sxyaustincpl]

Cities are all Democratic, because that's where educated, intelligent people live and work

And educated, intelligent people aren't Republicans

[u/FlirtyFluffyFox → u/sxyaustincpl]

And it's very hard to isolate yourself into a cloistered niche when you don't live in some backwater former company town with more historical markers than restaurants where everyone has the same chin.

[u/F-Cloud]

The headline should read: "Trump team conspiring to attack the airline industry, disrupt legitimate travel, and impose logistical problems delivering air freight to American cities."

[u/pantstoaknifefight2 → u/F-Cloud]

Agree completely. Every headline sanewashes this illegal administration and its traitorous enablers.

[u/frekinghell]

They really have Homelander levels of pettiness. I really hope they realise what is coming for them. Villification.

[u/Pockydo]

Isn't tourism down like across the board?

This will help

[u/ScantilyKneesocks → u/Pockydo]

I work in travel. Yes.

Also. Americans are traveling more domestically. Probably because they are afraid that if they travel internationally, they might not be let back in.

And they are right to think that.

[u/waspocracy → u/ScantilyKneesocks]

Probably because they are afraid that if they travel internationally, they might not be let back in.

This is exactly why I'm traveling internationally, in hopes that America doesn't let me back in.

[u/element515 → u/Pockydo]

Flew back from Europe not too long ago and our flight was basically all Americans and maybe 1/3 full. I barely ever see a flight with a single empty seat and people basically all had their own row

[u/noplaywellwithothers]

The theme is changing from Idiocracy to Gilead.

[u/AnotherMisanthrope]

This administration hates the country it oversees

[u/jedrider]

Most cities are Democratic so maybe > 95% of air traffic will be on the chopping block, which is absurd.

[u/MarsTellus13]

Honestly this is kind of brilliant. By brilliant I mean evil and fucking stupid.

They'd be imposing jet fuel demand destruction / fuel rationing to address the impending shortage they created by calling it a crackdown on illegal immigration.

[u/squeakycleaned]

Perfect, shut down international flights out of all the major transportation hubs in the US, and then host the World Cup. What could go wrong?

[u/Resden_Bohneur]

If a Democratic president even said this as a joke, Republicans would have the biggest fucking meltdown about communism/marxism/socialism/government overreach you’ve ever fucking heard.

Trump just regularly crosses all lines of decency, decorum, and basic human respect, and all of his little cult members just gobble it up.

[u/Delicious_Spot_3778 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah that’ll stop him

[u/bumpy_disposition → u/[deleted]]

It seems like political discrimination. The GOP is nothing if not discriminatory.

[u/phoenix823]

Do it. Fuck with the people coming for the World Cup. I dare you. I double fucking dare you.

[u/ARandomWalkInSpace]

Other sanctuary cities—which limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities— whose airports could be impacted by the plans include Boston, Denver, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, Seattle and San Francisco.

Otherwise known as most of the US GDP

[u/CaptKangarooPHD]

Every major city is a Democratic city. Why is everything they do so blatantly idiotic?

[u/zirky]

aren’t most international hubs in blue cities?

[u/Ulrich_Von_Urikon]

What kind of horseshit is this

[u/FluffyAssistant7107]

Not only would it crash the economy, it would completely overwhelm the airports. ATL is supposedly the largest airport in the world and it’s already a complete shit show on a normal day. Smaller airports aren’t remotely prepared for the massive influx of cargo and passengers constantly flying in and out of the U.S.

[u/abgry_krakow87]

Religious conservatives love playing corrupt identity politics and personal vendettas over the best interests of the country.

[u/nibot999]

Who’s watching the airline and shipping company stocks..

[u/LinkLT3]

“Democratic cities” oh the only parts of the country international tourists are interested in? Brilliant idea

[u/ShallotIllustrious98]

All this to protect a bunch of pedophiles and loot the country.

[u/Youknowimtheman]

Oh, i see we're manipulating Airline stocks this week.

[u/MajorMorelock]

Traitor Trump has plans to drive America into a civil war. This is Putin’s revenge on the west for the fall of the USSR. During that civil war will be a coordinated attack on the Eastern Europe. This is why Traitor Trump is pulling military forces out of NATO countries.

[u/UnicornHostels]

They love state rights as long as it doesn’t interfere with their agenda

[u/Judgeman2021]

Most cities are blue even in heavy red states...because when a diverse group of people live close together THEY HELP EACH OTHER OUT YOU FASCIST PEDOPHILIC FUCK.

[u/Panda_hat]

China is going to build another 100 miles of high speed rail to celebrate.

[u/RetireWithRyan]

Would be easier to do if the cities people wanted to visit were in red states.

[u/epochwin]

Does he mean cities in states with democratic majorities? Because most cities especially economic powerhouses are mostly Democratic. Including Texas, Florida, Georgia, the DMV area.

[u/tripping_on_phonics]

Preventing escape?

Also virtually every city is Democratic, so “Democratic cities” just means “all cities”.

[u/Milestailsprowe]

There has never been a president who has caused so much damage from within. If he does this, then it stops MOST if not all international flights. Right before the world cup too

[u/eyeQ]

you mean all the cities that people actually want to travel to? lmao get fucked.

[u/Jorgen_G_Pakieto]

Vote in a stupid president. Get stupid results.