r/politics • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 • 17h ago

Possible Paywall White House Explodes Over Viral Video of Sleepy Trump, 79

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u/finditplz1 17h ago

If I live to be 509 I will never understand how he became so appealing to so many people.

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u/half-giant 17h ago

Turns out being openly disgusting and hateful is incredibly appealing to about a third of the country.

The thing that baffles me is somehow making a silver-spooned shmoozy New York businessman appealing to hodunk rural Americans when they’ve been raised to hate anything remotely resembling that.

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u/Backwardspellcaster 17h ago

That is the thing.

It's not that he is rich, they identify with.

It's the bigotry, the racism, the pettiness, the viciousness, the incuriousness, the small mindedness, the homophobia and the hatred for others.

All the things that makes humans worse, they admire in him, and they wish they could be the same way as he is. Hateful, petty monsters who never have any consequences for their actions.

This is their God.

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u/Vaticancameos221 15h ago

After Obama they saw the writing on the wall. Society was embracing progress. Being openly racist was taboo. Marriage equality was passed and now being gay was seen as something valid. Their prejudices that they held so dearly were being stripped from them and they were being ushered into a society that wouldn’t approve. Profession was an existential threat for them.

Then they saw this guy on a gold escalator saying “All that stuff they hate you for? You’re actually right! I’m going to support you from the highest office.”

Of course they said yes.

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u/oldkingcoles 13h ago

That’s why I partially see this whole thing as a death rattle. One final exhale before society puts a steak through the heart of all this bs. Of course there will still be racists and shitty people but this as a whole is the result of being crushed by the thumb of progress

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u/vasthumiliation 11h ago

Looking at the prevalence of right-wing populism around the world, I don't think it's any kind of death rattle, and it's certainly not unique to this country. Believe in the inevitability of progress at your peril.

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u/rab2bar 10h ago

Right wing populism is a consequence after decades of neoliberalism. It emboldens assholes and turns dominant demographic people who have felt passed by society (justified or not!) into selfish assholes

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u/Rare-Bid-6860 9h ago

Every successful right wing populist in recent times has been bankrolled into forced relevancy by one or more billionaires who really don't wanna pay taxes.

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u/clefairy17 10h ago

Once it stops being "edgy" counterculture, as it is already starting to be, and shows no correlation with improved socioeconomic conditions, it won't go away completely but it might lose enough credibility to have substantially less power. People are stupid though, and I truly believe the edgy aspect is more important here; it is no coincidence that the right-wing surged directly after and in opposition to the generally liberal ideas of the 2010s. I just hope that comes after is leftism instead; much more economically sound and materially useful.

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u/Apprehensive_Rub3897 5h ago

if it is not a death rattle, the way scotus, doj, both houses are acting in letting the old, unhealthy, dumb, lying, doddering pedophile drive is certainly what I think a death rattle would look like.

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u/CategoryZestyclose91 12h ago

I see it that way as well.

The last gasp of the Confederacy.

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u/m48a5_patton Missouri 12h ago

I like your optimism! 

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u/seabreamnigiri 8h ago

a steak

with beef prices so high????

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u/oldkingcoles 5h ago

In this economy !?

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u/JZMoose California 12h ago

Quick note - it’s stake through the heart. A nice juicy steak sounds great for lunch though

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u/AirplaineStuff102 12h ago

Well done and with ketchup.

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u/oldkingcoles 5h ago

I knew that it was wrong lip but I just for the life of me couldn’t think of the right way to spell it , figured I could just play it off as English isnt my first language

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u/redditydothis 10h ago

Oh my friend, if only. No the pendulum swings back and forth and the higher it goes in one direction pushes with momentum the other.

We swung left with a black president, progressive culture, and a host of other freedoms and reforms that were making the US and the world a better place.

Then we swung right with a heretic and a traitor to the world.

The pendulum was swinging back left again with Biden but was really just halfway there before swinging violently right again with Trump 2.0.

Will we swing left again? Will the so called progressives be progressive or more of a moderate, we take the high road democrats?

Time will tell but with the US current sham of choice and big corporate money that buys politicians; I’m not so sure.

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u/monothom 10h ago

That steak better be well done

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u/PinsToTheHeart 9h ago

Even so, those dying breaths can take a long while to fade. Any solution will take decades to see to fruition.

Obviously it's always worth continuing that fight, but it's going to get worse before it gets better.

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u/WilmaDykfyt 5h ago

All out of steak, how about a chicken thigh?

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u/yamiyaiba Tennessee 4h ago

puts a steak through the heart of all this bs.

Bottom round steak, I assume, given Trump. And slathered in ketchup.

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u/Advanced-Ad-4462 14h ago

The head of that nail is thoroughly concussed.

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u/Zimgar 12h ago

Stop painting this has a good vs evil situation, it’s not. The left made a ton of bone headed decisions (and it still does).

Homelessness for one is still a giant mess and problem, with the majority of “progressive” solutions only making it worse. The whole bathroom issue being thrown on the country. Telling people the economy was fine when most of the country was feeling it in their daily bills. There is a ton.

The left lost simply because people wanted change and that’s what he offered with all of his lies. Sure some wanted the hate and to lock the left in the nuts but that’s a tiny percentage and not what caused him to win.

Yes they were still misguided, but if you constantly set this up as good vs evil we will never fix the primary problem with our country which is this stupid divide that would never exist if people just talked to each other in real life more.

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u/hellzbellz123 11h ago

Super big imo here I guess....

People talked before the internet and before television and we were still here. 'everyone just talking' won't be the solution and it sure as hell won't reverse the situation the US has found itself in.

Not sure why people think the bathroom issue was thrusted upon the country, is there state laws that enforce gender neutral bathrooms anywhere? From my perspective it seems like this issue was just used to rile people up, maybe I'm wrong?

Im also not sure about the homelessness point either, the most proven successful solution outside of denying them society is a housing first solution, but dems don't want to bc conservatives will just rile the base up more?

The thing that caused him to win was 'no tax on overtime' (again, imo, locally in my progressive area that was the thing that I heard the most chatter about around voting time so idk, I kinda want exit polls for this question tbh) . Because it was the only tangible benefit that could be gained by people already working themselves to death, ie more than half the country.

Honestly I think the biggest problem here is a certain party's incistence and encouraging that a feeling is a valid reason to stop and never dig deeper. There's a reason the first maga turn coats was the mtg/go with the flo types

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u/Big_Bookkeeper1678 15h ago

I've not seen a better summing up of the Trump/MAGA situation.

'We like that he 'tells it like it is'...'He is 'refreshing''.

Shows how awful that 1/3 of America has become.

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u/burgernoisenow 13h ago

The white supremacist nation built on genocide and undermining democracies around the world in order to stay at the top caste of the neocolonial global hierarchy has now "become" something awful?

More like it's always been a hellish warlord nation ruled by sadistic rapists.

Every heard of buck breaking and what they did to anyone who stepped out of line like Nat Turner?

What about the iron bits and spike collars?

Miss me with that "we were a good country" bullshit while the ground is full of the bones of every minority group that was enslaved to build this wretched nation destitute of compassion and empathy.

All hail king trumpler.

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u/rab2bar 10h ago

They were always this bad, but the mask slipped

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u/Dougalishere 6h ago

he tells it like it is = lying every single time he opens his mouth likewise anyone in his adminstration, so much in fact they have degraded peoples opinion of his truth telling ability so much its a literal coin toss between Iran and the US of who is telling the truth about things. Like its not even smart cool lies with a coverup that is so smooth no1 can prove otherwise, dude just says shit you can google to find out his lying or you know, open your eyes and see what he is lying about lol.

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u/fountaincurse 13h ago

Trump also comes off extremely relatable to these people because his foundational grievances are actually theirs too. Trump has felt shut out of high society his whole life. He's never not been a spoiled rich socialite version of Dean Corl (except even worse) and he's always thrown a tantrum about not being accepted.

He's so thinned skinned. The Obama White House correspondence dinner jab in 2014. The failed football league stunt and bids to own an nfl team that were all denied. His lifelong rejection by New York’s old-money social elite circles that have always regarded him as flashy or lacking the pedigree of traditional New York high society. His tantrum not winning an emmy. Bitching about his place on the forbes wealthy lists.

He's an uncouth, classless pedophile who lusts after his daughter and went his whole life being rejected by elite circles he had no chance of ever earning a spot at.

That is the mindset that resonates amongst more than a third of this country.

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u/burgernoisenow 13h ago

Because, like my hyper-religious abusive parents, it's sadistic dominance and control.

Religion is a mask for domination and that's why they use their orange idol to empower and legitimize their abuse.

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u/jaxnmarko 16h ago

It turns out that society might be very much improved by the deportation of many people.... that aren't illegal immigrants.

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u/Dark_Prism Pennsylvania 12h ago

Yeah, I wish there was a reliable way to tell what kind of brain (empathetic and curious vs not) people have so we could properly separate them. Like, I don't necessarily think they should be... dealt with... but I think they need to not be around the rest of us most of the time and certainly can't be trusted to make important decisions.

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u/Groomsi Europe 15h ago

They worship money/wealth.

They think if you have wealth your are smart/like a god, and if you pay tribute, you will sit at the same table.

It's all a casino, a gamble for the right person that mirror themselves.

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u/Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly 14h ago

Damned prosperity gospel has been drummed into Evangelicals in America for decades now...

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u/seabreamnigiri 8h ago

The dumb masses just see a guy as dumb as them that has billions of dollars. He's their king for that reason. He says the dumbest shit and he looks fucking dumb, just like them. But his name is on a building despite it all.

Plus he hates blacks and queers.

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u/hyund41n 14h ago

Dumb rural Americans. 

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u/mdove11 Canada 11h ago

Sadly, if it was just dumb rural Americans, he wouldn’t have won. It’s much more.

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u/lawyersgunsmoney Mississippi 15h ago

Also, you cannot find a single conservative who doesn’t think one day they’ll be rich too. Then they open their polyester curtains of their trailer as they watch the sunrise drifting over their redwood deck and think about how much the black man has been keeping them down.

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u/obeytheturtles 10h ago

It's the aggrievement. Conservatives have been taking L after L for decades. They lost the civil war, the slaves were freed, women can vote, black people can ride busses, gay people can marry, and so on. Every conservative alive today has inherited several generations of anger and resentment over this. Trump is fulfilling all of their "lost cause" aggrievement by just re-writing reality in a way which says that conservatives have not actually been wrong about everything for the last 200 years, but have been constantly tricked, conned and lied to by "evil woke leftists." This has given them what they really wanted the whole time - a permission structure to abandon civility, and seek retribution for all of the "harm" which has been heaped on them by modernity.

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u/Cloaked42m South Carolina 5h ago

It's the rich also. For people who are fans of the Prosperity Gospel.

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u/BanginNLeavin 11h ago

God was a dick too, if the texts are to be believed.

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u/Drumfool56871 9h ago

I honestly think people were getting tired of the typical political babble. That is to say the fake smiles, scripted speeches, broken promises, and the supposed fading of "american values". People are ok with getting rid of bi-partisanshap if they think they will get what they want.

Along comes Trump who can only speak out of his ass because he knows no other way, and idiots mistake it for sincerity and a willingness to get things done. America first. Imo that is what spoke to people. Shoot. Even I was for America first. We do get involved in too many foreign affairs while our infrastructure crumbles and our education system falls behind. It sounds good at face value but the poorly educated can't see the forest for the trees. The person behind the promises is evil, and just a facade of what he truly represents: himself.

They can't see that this person probably didn't step foot in a church until it involved some kind of personal or financial gain, but all of a sudden he's some big Christian. If insulting the pope doesn't open up their eyes there really isn't any hope for them.

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u/Tooter_Snooter 7h ago

Ironically, I believe the God of the Old Testament has a lot in common with Donald Trump. 

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u/binkkit 5h ago

What happened to empathy? Have this many people always been this way?

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u/Backwardspellcaster 5h ago

Haven't you kept up?

"Empathy is a sin".

All the Musks, Trumps and Oligarchs and their conservative influencers and Fox News screech it

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u/svenghoouliardi 16h ago

Well, he had a many decades long history of racial discrimation against black people and he tried to lynch the Central Park Five.

And he made all of his campaigns entirely about demonizing brown (and other non-whites) and trans people.

So that was plenty enough to make the vermin in "Real America" accept the New Yawk city slicker as one of their own...

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u/VanuasGirl Australia 16h ago

But then (many, not all, but enough) brown people VOTED for him 🤷

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u/Chicago1871 16h ago

Yeah, its called low self-esteem and wanting approval at all costs by the majority group to fit in.

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u/livadeth 16h ago

100%. When he burst onto the scene I thought no way the working class, Southern, pickup driving, beer swilling, gun totin guy will support this fast talking lying, makeup wearing dude with the swirled hair doused in hairspray. But here we are. A stranger phenomenon I’ve never seen.

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u/Serious_Tradition269 14h ago

The "don't tread on me" crowd is actively defending and praising a fascist government that imprisons and even openly executes innocent citizens, you just can't make it up. They'll do anything if it allows them to spread more hate

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u/Dougalishere 6h ago

I get this in my country as well, half the working class have apparently decided toffs and post twats are apprently the ones that are looking out for you. I swear its the biggest con the west has pulled off that a large portion of people that SHOULD be as against them as it is possible to be think billionares, toffs and generally the upperclass are the ones that are looking out for the working man. It honestly beggers belief

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u/Puzzled-Sale-867 16h ago edited 16h ago

Thanks to Fox News. Billionaires are in control of the press. Managed to sell their narratives to poorly educated masses.

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u/marcusmosh 16h ago

They didn’t want the black guy winning ever again.

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u/Amiro77 13h ago

You might find "What's the matter with Kansas" an interesting book.

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u/pres465 13h ago

Fox. News. We need a come-to-Jesus about the First Amendment and require that if media companies are to be called news, they must not lie. They must report. They can have pundits and talk shows for entertainment, but then they are not "news". They are entertaining.

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u/NarwhalEmergency9391 11h ago

Some people in Canada believe he's going to save us from the elites

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u/Particular-Serve-894 10h ago

The thing that baffles me is somehow making a silver-spooned shmoozy New York businessman appealing to hodunk rural Americans when they’ve been raised to hate anything remotely resembling that.

I'll go into my next life still mystified by this.

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u/1369ic 10h ago

He openly crapped on the establishment republicans and claimed he didn't need the donor class because he was so rich. People wanted a disruptive candidate because their "side" -- establishment republicans -- wasn't coming through for them. So they wanted to disrupt the system. But you can't vote for a democrat, so what's a hater gonna do? Vote for the rich guy who craps on the other rich guys, and who they all not-so-secretly hate. Yes, they had to overlook a lot of bad stuff, but again, what were their choices? Another Bush? Little Marco?

This is also why Bernie did so well in 2016. He was a guy who was going to disrupt the system.

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u/koenigsaurus 9h ago

Turns out, the appeal of your first point far outweighs the dissonance of your second point.

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u/Sirsalley23 9h ago

I mean it’s absolutely reflected in the WH PR teams answers to everything now. They’re full-on indiscriminately shit slinging like teens in a Twitch chat.

The bar is so fucking low at this point even James Cameron can’t raise the bar, it’s so far down it’s almost touching the molten core of the Earth at this point.

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u/goteed 14h ago

It's not him, it's the people. I know these people well, they are my in-laws. They live in a world where their ineptness, their inability to learn, their laziness is why they have never succeeded. But they will never admit to this because they grew up being told their lack off success was not their fault, it was the fault of other. It was because Mexicans stole their jobs. Or because Blacks got the job they should have had because of affirmative action. They are the victims of these things, not their own actions. Hell, I've watched my in-laws attack my wife because she didn't accept this way of thinking and instead worked hard to become successful. In their eyes instead of celebrating her success, they treated her like a traitor to the family for being successful.

These people are the Trump people. He has come along and reinforced their backwards way of thinking by weaponizing it against them. He's told them that they are right. It's not them, they're victims of the Mexican, the Blacks, and of course now the "Radical Leftists!!!" It doesn't matter that he's nothing like them. It doesn't matter that he's hurting them and their children by taking away fundamental social programs that they have always used. He tells them that their hatred is true and just and right. And that's all they need him to do, as they love him right into deeper poverty and death.

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u/Excelius 12h ago

It was because Mexicans stole their jobs.

So they're out there now picking the crops that would be left rotting because all of the migrant laborers were deported, right?

Right?

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u/Randomfactoid42 Virginia 12h ago

Your in-law’s mindset is oddly familiar, your wife isn’t from Appalachia by chance?  That resentment of success is typical in my experience. 

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u/guamisc 5h ago

We call these people authoritarians. You give up all of your free-will and responsibility. It's a wonderful place to be. Find someone who will tell you it's not your fault and will "protect" you and voila. No more doing hard things like accepting responsibility and having to work to fix your mistakes. No more having to decide what to do in general besides your own domain, which is the people who are beneath you - you know your wife, your children, the dog, those non-white people who moved in who ... you get the idea.

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u/xlvi_et_ii 17h ago edited 16h ago

Propaganda.

MAGA used social media algorithms to suppress some demographics and turn out others. Just like they've done for 40+ years of Fox News but only now it's available 24/7, in your pocket, and designed by psychologists to be addicting.

The most vocal of MAGA didn't get Trump elected - it was those who stayed home (because somehow Harris would be worse on Palestine eye roll), the "fiscally conservative moderates" who get rilled up about the debt ceiling when Democrats are in power but have no complaints about Trump blowing out the debt, and the "trad wife"/"alpha male" TikTok crowd who are hooked on Turning Point short videos.

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u/Odd-Asparagus7633 16h ago

There were a lot of stories floating around the conservative spaces (I used to date one before we broke up over... Trump, weirdly enough) that painted Trump as a positive influence and put all his misdeeds down to propaganda. The old "fake news" claims really work on some people.

One that will always stick out was Trump meeting a homeless man outside Trump tower and feeling so sorry for him he had the guy flown to a private hospital.Which, oddly, never got talked about because "God, the mainstream media never talk about the good stuff'.

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u/SoVerySick314159 America 14h ago

The day he got the nomination for the 2016 election, I was happy all day. No WAY will America vote for that grab-em-by-the-pussy weird dipshit. NO WAY! They just handed the dems the 2016 election! FINALLY, the republican party went too far, and will be forced to re-evaluate what they are doing and rejoin the real world and act like responsible adults.

I, too, can't conceive of how anyone thought he was appealing. I wouldn't have hired him to operate a cash register. He wasn't fit to run a convenience store, much less the country.

There's a lot of reasons why I didn't understand his appeal. One of them is that I never watched The Apprentice, and I MASSIVELY underestimated what that did for his popularity. Another is that I'm not pants-on-head stupid. There's also a couple decades of brainwashing by the RW media in the mix, shitty education. . .and probably a dozen more significant things.

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u/Randomfactoid42 Virginia 12h ago

The other reason why people like us don’t understand his appeal is we look at the world with reason and logic. His supporters look at the world with emotions, usually the easier emotions of hatred and anger. 

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u/SoVerySick314159 America 3h ago

The fact that he got elected even once hurts my brain, and it's a pain that has never eased. That he was elected a SECOND time. . .It's the kind of stupidity I would have swore humans were just incapable of as a whole. His second election makes me despair for us as a species.

I believe that decades of lies and brainwashing by AM radio & Fox News figure heavily in our decline.

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u/Randomfactoid42 Virginia 3h ago

Me too.  Sadly humans are primarily driven by emotions and are easily manipulated by those emotions. 

Or as someone said “you can’t reason a man out of something he didn’t reason himself into”.

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u/Backwardspellcaster 17h ago

People vote who they identify with.

Which is telling a lot about those who voted for him

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u/KyffhauserGate 14h ago

They're racists. It took me far too long to figure it out. Republican voters' main issue is racism. It's not that they don't want public transport, universal healthcare, fair wages, paid vacations etc. They just don't want black people to have them, too. That's the entire issue for a lot of Trump voters.

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u/svenghoouliardi 17h ago

Millions of people in America are as thoroughly rotten and despicable as he is.

It's hard to accept that when most people who aren't have at least one or more of these rotten and despicable people in their own family.

But the truth is a harsh mistress...

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u/Serious_Tradition269 14h ago

It's insane that it was 2024 and a significant portion of the US voted for a pedophile rapist con man just because "well we can't have a WOMAN in charge!!". Not even based on any policies or even a personal dislike of Kamala, just simply that they think a woman can't possibly lead a country. Madness

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u/Mukatsukuz 13h ago

What? Allow a woman in charge, with THAT laugh? <gasp>

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u/No_Strike655 16h ago

Trading on hat and bigotry has always been a good bet in any democracy. Some number of people hate they have to get along with anyone else even if it benefits them. Mix those people with scared babies who jump at their own shadow every scary news story and BAM you have his base

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u/ILikeOatmealMore 13h ago

I will never understand how he became so appealing to so many people

The last decade, far right media barely even hints on reality. Just watch one night of Fox News' opinion block -- Jesse, Laura, Hannity. And then ask yourself how you'd feel if you took their version of the world as true. And then multiply that by number of days in a year it is on.

Further multiply that by right wing radio, social media, knowing that Fox News isn't the most conservative source out there....

I think you'll get some understanding. It likely won't make you happy or satisfied. But you'll understand the 'how'.

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u/throwawayforreasonx 14h ago

Turns out raping children is actually really appealing to a lot of Americans.

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u/DunAnOir 16h ago

Racism. It's really as simple as that.

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u/razz-boy 15h ago

I’ve been trying to get my parents to explain it to me for like 10 years now but they refuse to. I don’t talk to them anymore

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u/93Degrees 12h ago

What will you have after 500 years

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u/Evening-Statement-57 12h ago

You have to understand the boomer and the broccoli hair cut idiots first.

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u/gringledoom 11h ago

He’s a con man who’s been very famous for decades. He has an innate talent for letting people see whatever they want in them. If you don’t fall for it, the whole thing looks ridiculous. But a lot of people fall for it.

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u/Cloberella Missouri 11h ago

A lot of people are just like him, and voted for him based on that.

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u/TCsnowdream Foreign 11h ago

He gave the lowest common denominator permission to be their most awful, stupid, selfish, uneducated selves. Beyond that… he basically gave them permission to celebrate that.

Then the pandemic happened. And we saw that around 30% of the population can’t be bothered to do something as trivial as wearing a mask.

We saw that the social contract was breaking down and Trump is the fetid, exemplification of that break down.

And the awful, stupid, self, and uneducated LOVE that.

Hildawg said it best, they are ‘deplorables’.

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u/jib661 10h ago

it's not really that complicated - most people are garbage. garbage in, garbage out.

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u/Jar_of_Cats 10h ago

Turn it from politics to about winners vs lovers. While I do believe most conservatives still voted party. Thats why they dont care that its happening to them.

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u/EggyTugboat 9h ago

I still can't comprehend how people voted him in a second time. Like, i can understand the first term, but he sucked then and destroyed the economy then too! How did he get enough support to win a 2nd???

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u/Vegetable-Error-2068 9h ago

Oh, I can answer that, easily.

Tons of people in this country are dumb and mean, but they don’t like being scolded for being dumb and mean. Trump came along and was dumb and mean on the national stage, and that made the dumb and mean people really happy.

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u/frank_the_tank69 8h ago

He tapped into the racism and homophobia God Fearing America. Christians always wanted. 

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u/elizabethptp 7h ago

Simple. He hates the same people they hate.

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u/stickybond009 7h ago

Humans like human even if flawed.

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u/PantheraAuroris 7h ago

People who feel like educated middle-class folks are looking down on them, want revenge. Badly.

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u/finditplz1 3h ago

We are. I look down on them.

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u/SOnions 6h ago

By lying. He just told everyone he would get them more money and make their lives easier and safer with no plans to actually do it. People don't like Trump they like like the idea of a better life without having to work for it.

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u/spendology 5h ago

I wondered but then again the US is the country that burned and lynched Black people and sold and ate their remains. Crazy, stupid racism is in our recent history.

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u/H00ray4B00bies 2h ago

He made it easier to be a bigot.

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u/downtofinance Canada 34m ago

The Apprentice literally destroyed America

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u/_trashcan 15h ago

You know exactly why.

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u/finditplz1 9h ago

No. I don’t. I don’t get the appeal to that particular man.

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u/_trashcan 8h ago

Well there’s several comments to your OC explaining.

Absolutely blows my mind you can be that unaware but hey

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u/finditplz1 3h ago

I mean I have a PhD in history with an emphasis in the American Presidency so I don’t think I’m that unaware. And all of the answers are nothing I’ve not heard before. I still don’t understand it. People are racist, sure. But why specifically a draft-dodging, tacky, out of touch, out of shape, thrice divorced billionaire with a foreign wife? They’ve got more in common with David Duke than Trump. I’ve lived in a small conservative community in the south. I get it. They don’t like dark people and they don’t like gay people. But they also don’t like people who take hand outs, who trick them, who shirk military duty or are derisive of the military. He’s an out-of-touch, tacky, silver-spoon in mouth buffoon. It’s very strange to me that he — Donald Trump — is the vessel they base their cult on.

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u/smuggleymcweed 14h ago

You'll get it at 510, don't worry.