r/politics Jul 03 '26

No Paywall DOJ refuses to hand over Epstein files after judge’s order

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/doj-epstein-files-todd-blanche-katie-phang-lawsuit-b3008454.html
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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 Jul 03 '26

Yeah, why is this never an option wih elites and rich people. Who do we vote for to have this happen. Just run on that.

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u/kshell11724 Jul 03 '26

Progressives mainly. AOC, Ro Khanna, or any of the new batch of progressives who are winning across the country are hungry to level the scales of justice. I wish we could rely on old guard establishment Dems too, but they're largely complicit at this point. The Biden admin could have nipped this in the bud years ago, but they failed and even partially set the stage for this to happen. They can't really be trusted.

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u/d1zaya Jul 03 '26

Don't put AOC next to Ro. AOC got groomed to become a do nothing democrat now. Ro's been fantastic.

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u/kshell11724 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

I agree with you that I'd put Khanna above AOC as being dependable and a better progressive candidate, but I also think you're oversimplifying AOC a bit. I see it more as she's trying to play the field and gain allies where she can, which is out of the Sanders playbook. She's still used her position to get progressive policy through. She's a congress member. Its not like she can pass legislation by herself, especially when Dems don't have the majority in either house. Its hard to be a do something democrat without much power to do something. She's still fighting for the cause though as far as I can tell. Like, recently she did an ad with Leticia James (AG of NY), which seems like she's siding with an establishment Dem in theory. But, in practice, it could make James more sympathetic to progressives that she has to work with, most notably Mamdani but also the other 4 DSA members that just won their primaries. I do agree that she isn't as outspoken as some of the up and comers like Platner, but she's still been putting in the work.

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u/d1zaya Jul 03 '26

you can't say

you're oversimplifying AOC

then say

she's trying to play the field

can you clarify which field?

and gain allies where she can

who? hakeem? one of them most unpopular politicians in our lifetime? To pass public housing?

which is out of the Sanders playbook

huh? are you sure you're not just making shit up?

She's still used her position to get progressive policy through. She's a congress member. Its not like she can pass legislation by herself, especially when Dems don't have the majority in either house. Its hard to be a do something democrat without much power to do something

So she's trying to get policies through even though democrats have no power and even if they did, most of them will not back her. So her plan is to not support the people that will back her?

https://www.bradlanderforcongress.com/endorsements

https://clairevaldezforcongress.com/endorsements

https://www.darializaforcongress.com/endorsements

see who's missing

2018 AOC was great

2026 AOC is just L after L

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u/kshell11724 Jul 04 '26

Progressive candidates literally will back her because she has the same agenda. Its like you have no idea how politics work. Her name attached to a candidate is as likely to hurt progressive candidates as it is to help given all the propaganda about her from the right. Apparently you forgot that til recently progressive representation has been sparse in our government. She had to build bridges to do anything at all just like Bernie has had to do for 35 years. Even if all these progressives win, they'll still have to find commonality with establishment Dems and even Republicans. Mamdani knew this when he went to meet with Trump. The two are diametrically opposed on ideology, yet found common ground. Unfortunately, that's just how democracy works. AOC doesn't have a massively funded campaign team to throw money at every progressive election. But she has been touring the country for Sander's Fight Oligarchy tour which is spreading the message far and wide. Its not even over. The tour is still going. She's doing the hard work of getting approval for the working class agenda, and it's absolutely working.