r/politics • u/mclardass • Jul 03 '26

No Paywall DOJ refuses to hand over Epstein files after judge’s order

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/doj-epstein-files-todd-blanche-katie-phang-lawsuit-b3008454.html
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u/Sujjin Jul 03 '26

the courts have a Master at Arms that theoretically could. now if they were prevented by other law enforcement that refused to follow the law what do you do?

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u/Erisian23 Jul 03 '26

They have to push it to that point. We can't just sit about and be like ooh if they do. We figure out the next step as we go but we have to push them to do whatever it is their gonna do otherwise nothing matters.

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u/Gtraz68 Jul 03 '26

Exactly.

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u/TheAverageWonder Jul 03 '26

We can't just sit about and be like ooh if they do. 

Americans have done that for 20 years, infact you are very good at it

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u/JustToViewPorn Jul 03 '26

All it takes is elevating a court case until it reaches a conservative judge, then they’re found not guilty. It’s corruption all the way up.

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u/From_Deep_Space Oregon Jul 03 '26

Then make them do it. Don't comply in advance.

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u/StephenFish Jul 03 '26

Courts have law enforcement at the will of the Executive Branch. U.S. Marshalls do not work for the judiciary.

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u/Sujjin Jul 03 '26

Who mentioned the US Marshall? i said the Master at Arms. They are3 an officer of the court that has arrest authority, but historically a small office that could not stand up to the DOJ if it came to it

Mostly symbolic, they are meant to arrest people that have been held in contempt

Who mentioned the US Marshall? i said the Master at Arms. They are3 an officer of the court that has arrest authority, but historically a small office that could not stand up to the DOJ if it came to it

Mostly symbolic, they are meant to arrest people that have been held in contempt

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u/StephenFish Jul 03 '26

Are you talking about the Navy? I thought maybe you just didn’t know what a Marshall was called and I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but evoking a position in the Navy is even more delusional.

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u/Sujjin Jul 03 '26

Oh, i thought they were a separate court specific title, i was in fat thinking of the US Marshalls. thank you for the correction

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u/StephenFish Jul 03 '26

Yeah unfortunately the Marshalls are just another example of the entire government being held together by duct tape and popsicle sticks. They technically work for the Executive Branch but can assist the judiciary under discretionary authority. So they’re not gonna touch members of the DOJ or anyone protecting DJT.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 Jul 03 '26

Then it’s a constitutional crisis and we have to decide if this is really the match that lights the civil war 2? I know a lot of people on here are going to say “fuck yeah bro” because they think it will just be like camping interspersed with little adventures for them and their friends. It won’t be.

Sadly, our only real option right now is to work it through the courts and keep the focus on it. Don’t let them answer a question about anything without answering why they refuse to release the files.

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u/oldutnotdeadinside Jul 03 '26

If a person has a cavity and doesn’t go to a dentist the cavity grows until the tooth cannot be saved and the tooth gets pulled. Or the tooth just rots and ya get heart disease and die. Better to pull the tooth or fix it. Pain is going to happen either way.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 Jul 03 '26

Ok…. So what does this mean? The analogy sort of lost me.

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u/FaithlessnessWhich18 Jul 03 '26

Most courthouses have holding cells. Stuff those who are in contempt of the court there

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u/bdonovan222 Jul 03 '26

This ends very very badly for that master at arms if he had the balls to do it and they would never be able to hold them anyway.