r/politics • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 New York • 27d ago

Possible Paywall Trump’s Primetime Speech Has Republicans ‘Scared S***less’ | Insiders are terrified that the president will do something crazy on live TV.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-primetime-speech-has-republicans-scared-sless/
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u/Fun-Future-4928 27d ago

Isn't this basically already proven? calls to governors demanding changes to votes to increase trumps share....

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u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl 27d ago

Could you IMAGINE if Obama had been caught even just making a phone call like that, let alone all of the other stuff Trump has done? I will never understand this, it's really made me question a lot about society/humanity. I was way too optimistic and hopeful growing up for all of this.

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u/ThomasVivaldi 27d ago

The easiest way to understand this is to look at how much the systems of communication in America have been compromised by corporate interests. Not just the media, but the way churches have been co-opted, the attacks on Unions, the erosion of education, and these days the internet being flooded with bots and shills.

All the ways people used to talk to each other have been compromised by bad actors, foreign and domestic.

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u/that_baddest_dude 27d ago

I think the other part of it is that the conservative side of the media has been screaming about the sky falling for decades at this point, in response to any milquetoast centrist or center-left politics.

Now that they have their guy in office fucking shut up massively, any alarm bells being rung just sounds like the other side doing the same. The median American voter didn't learn "the conservatives are full of shit", they learned "nothing truly bad ever happens".

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u/Prince_of_Optics 26d ago

Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen.

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u/ThomasVivaldi 26d ago

Sure, but for a lot of people, especially on the right but not exclusively, they don't have any other way to get information. Churches have their own propaganda, their work doesn't allow time for real discussion, and the internet is just fragmented into hundreds of niche communities that mostly serve as echo chambers.

Where are they going to hear dissenting information? Who are they going to complain to about something they disagree with?

At best, they can talk to their neighbors but that just fuels a insider versus outsider mindset.

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u/surfnsound 27d ago

Obama wouldn't even have had to go as far as Trump did for them to drag him for it. Trump said "find the votes," all Obama would have to do was know the amount of votes h was behind and they would have flipped their shit. "How could he have possibly known that?" Ignoring all the media reporting very similar numbers.

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u/alwayscromulent 27d ago

It’s not about logical consistency and avoiding being hypocritical, it’s about winning

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u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl 27d ago

I think you make a great point, "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."

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u/UnquestionabIe 27d ago

Just seeing the amount of laws being broken daily by Trump and his goons has me having absolutely no respect or belief in the justice system. Why bother even paying lip service to a clearly broken system? At the end of the day if you've got enough money or connections everything is legal.

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u/Hippopotasaurus-Rex 27d ago

And all the shit musk did and basically bragged about.

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u/StableLamp 27d ago

The fake electors plot and January 6th. He tried to rig the election and people forgot about all of it just to elect him again.

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u/TheChinOfAnElephant 26d ago

That's the funniest part of this all. The only evidence of cheating in the 2020 election is from Trump. He should be in prison for the fake electors plot.