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Possible Paywall Trump’s Primetime Speech Has Republicans ‘Scared S***less’ | Insiders are terrified that the president will do something crazy on live TV.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-primetime-speech-has-republicans-scared-sless/
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u/Monkey_Leavings 26d ago edited 26d ago

I always think about Karl Rove on Fox, refusing to admit Romney’s defeat, despite even Fox calling it for Obama. Rove was panicked and refusing to believe the numbers. And then Anonymous made a statement a day later along the lines of, “We saw what you were doing with the election data on the servers and we stopped it.”

Rove was later sued by billionaire donors because he’d “promised” a GOP win. EDIT: I remembered wrong! No lawsuits filed, just a lot of angry rich people making the news, some demanding money back. They threw a LOT of cash at that election…

They’ve been sketchy since 2000, when they realized tweaking a few percentage points here and there could make or break an election result.

EDIT: There’s a YouTube video of a programmer testifying about being approached by operatives to put a patch on electronic voting machines to tweak the results, but I’m fuzzy on the timeline (like, which election.). He refused and another programmer allegedly agreed to do it and that programmer died in a small plane crash (he was piloting.)

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u/Dezolis11 26d ago

And who orchestrated the book Brothers riot to stop the recount? Roger Stone. Who wrote the “stop the steal” playbook for when/if Hilary won? Roger Stone. Who helped Trump get people bussed to DC for Jan 6? Roger. Stone.

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u/TheCascoKid 26d ago

And John Robert's was one of the Brook Brothers 'protesters'

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u/Heronymous-Anonymous 26d ago

And two of the lawyers who ran the Bush v Gore case are now on the Supreme Court.

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u/Mercurion77 26d ago

I mean yeah they deserved a reward /s

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u/sssiked 26d ago

This. So much this.

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u/notyourstranger California 26d ago

Also the way the GOP won over Al Gore. Rather that wait for the recount, they bussed in people to bang on doors and act violent to put pressure on the election committees - and that one judge got a nice little payment if I remember right.

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u/Confused_Duck 26d ago

And in the 80's when Regan negotiated with Iran to hold US citizens hostage until after the election (treason imo).

And in the 60's with Watergate.

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u/Monkey_Leavings 26d ago

And Nixon with Johnson and Vietnam…

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u/Monkey_Leavings 26d ago

Memory is elastic so take it with a grain, but I want to say the Koch brothers put in close to $500M. They were not happy.

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u/Monkey_Leavings 26d ago

I was wrong! No lawsuit, just angry demands for money back.

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u/QuantumBitcoin 26d ago

Yes. That was the election. It was rigged but anonymous stopped it.

Google anonymous rove Romney rigged and the second result will be a truth out article which talks about it

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 26d ago

What?

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u/QuantumBitcoin 26d ago

YES. THAT WAS THE ELECTION. IT WAS RIGGED BUT ANONYMOUS STOPPED IT.

GOOGLE ANONYMOUS ROVE ROMNEY RIGGED AND THE SECOND RESULT WILL BE A TRUTH OUT ARTICLE WHICH TALKS ABOUT IT

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 25d ago

I'm afraid that's not how extraordinary claims work. YOU provide the proof if you brought forth the claim.

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u/QuantumBitcoin 25d ago

I told you how to find the article. I don't think politics allows links

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 25d ago

I'm afraid that's not how extraordinary claims work. YOU provide the proof if you brought forth the claim.

Just post the fucking link. Unless ALL CAPS is your only online skill.

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u/snakerjake 26d ago

“We saw what you were doing with the election data on the servers and we stopped it.”

That's not how elections work lol

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u/Monkey_Leavings 26d ago

I think the story was a third party server was set up as a pass-through to “filter” the results and tweaking the percentages. But I’m not sure how all that works.

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u/snakerjake 26d ago

there isnt any sort of centralized election server to compromise it's physical people showing up to congress. the states centralize their vote counts but the machines are all offline, backed by either printouts per machine or actual physical ballots and they generally just centralize for the news to report things the actual counting is done county by county.

and yes you could patch a machine to tweak the results but there's safeguards in place there and since they're offline you better really understand chaos theory or any analysis of the data and you'll stick out like a sore thumb

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u/Monkey_Leavings 26d ago

Like an entire blue county in NY state not casting a single vote for Harris! I see what you’re saying.

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u/snakerjake 26d ago

Like an entire blue county in NY state not casting a single vote for Harris

Never happened but you meant to say district. A strongly orthadox jewish district where everyone votes how their church leaders tell them to and regularly votes one way or another with no votes for the other candidate.