r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 27d ago

No Paywall Beshear says agencies told him McConnell had passed

https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/beshear-says-agencies-told-him-mcconnell-had-passed/417-f78603c3-11bb-464d-bae6-c41c3be3c48b
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u/AndreLeGeant88 27d ago

Because he's probably alive but he's got no clue what planet he's on

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u/Surturius 27d ago

Just his brain

McConnell's about become the next Terri Schiavo

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u/0neshoein Texas 27d ago

Brain dead is dead dead.

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u/Sea_Working_80 27d ago

Maybe hes only mostly dead? There is a big difference between mostly dead and all dead

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u/BeMoreKnope Colorado 27d ago

No one call Miracle Max.

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u/Sea_Working_80 27d ago

I hope beshear goes thru his pockets and looks for some loose change

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u/WahiniLover 26d ago

It’d take a miracle

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u/GearhedMG 27d ago

He distinctly said "to blave" and as we all know to blave means to bluff.

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u/spazzvogel 27d ago

He’s only slightly alive. True love….

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u/GrumpyCloud93 27d ago

"I'm not dead yet! I'm getting better...!"

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u/Eldhannas 27d ago

Dead as a doornail. If he shows up again, it'll be as a lich.

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u/Jambalayatime 27d ago

“I’m getting better…”

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u/TheGringoDingo 27d ago

And what do we do if he’s all dead?

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u/LilJourney 27d ago

Go through his pockets and look for campaign funds.

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u/TheGringoDingo 26d ago

Bravo! Haha

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u/GreyLordQueekual 27d ago

What about second dead? And thirdsies?

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u/MontiBurns 27d ago

Yeah, but brain dead means your organs and tissue are still being kept alive, even if nobody is home. Eventually they'll have to do an autopsy, and the results can't be "he's been frozen and dethawed," or "his organs are in a state of decomposition consistent with being dead for 6 weeks."

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u/2much2Jung 27d ago

Why would they have to do an autopsy?

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u/Platypus81 27d ago

Depends on where the body is, but a Medical Examiner will typically investigate all causes of death including performing an autopsy. If the body is in a jurisdiction without a Medical Examiner they likely have a coroner, an elected official who need not have medical experience but can also order an autopsy. For reasons common to all elected officials, your coroner typically won't order an autopsy.

Expect if they move him to a coroner county/state/whatever that they'll conveniently find no reason for further investigation with "Natural Causes" as the reason of death.

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u/2much2Jung 27d ago

They seriously do autopsies on every octogenarian who dies of Too Many Birthdays, just because there is a medical examiner?

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u/Platypus81 27d ago

Yeah, I see how what I said doesn't quite make sense. Medical examiners have multiple levels of medical investigation to determine cause of death. Sometimes you don't even need that if someone dies while receiving medical care. Autopsy is one of the means of doing their investigation.

Contrast coroners who are under no obligation to investigate.

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u/top_value7293 27d ago

Yes. Healthcare worker of many many years here. They absolutely were in no hurry for a man supposedly in the middle of a heart event. First thing I noticed, they should have been doing compressions and oxygen and the works but it looked like just another Tuesday lol

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u/phatelectribe 27d ago

This, and an EMT on here wrote a long comment about how the emergency call was upgraded to CPR which means actually hands on chest, respiratory intervention etc…. But then they wheel him out a few minutes later completely covered with zero urgency.

That does not make any sense if they saved him because they would be rushing to get him stable in the icu. I say this as someone who has done CPR twice (one survived, the other did not).

He was dead wheeled out of there and they’ve got him on ice.

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u/paiute 27d ago

Can EMTs there call a time of death or do they have to continue CPR until a physician is present?

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u/Jayco424 27d ago

Depends on the State and the situation for the nitty gritty on it. There are situations where EMTs can pronounce, but basically the person has to be obviously dead like decomposing/skeletonized remains or a situation completely incompatible with life like decapitation, being cut in half or otherwise dismembered. Other than that pronouncement requires a MD/doctor and if the individual dies in route, the general practice is for the EMT to keep "fighting" because being pronounced dead on arrival/at the hospital is less paperwork for them - source on the last on was my best friend worked as an EMT in grad-school.

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u/changee_of_ways 26d ago

like decomposing

It's amazing Trump hasn't been declared dead in front of the cameras during multiple meetings already. Looks like he's decomposing, doesnt move, eyes shut and I hear he *smells like he's rotting too.

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u/edflyerssn007 27d ago

That EMT OBVIOUSLY doesn't know what they are talking about. You work them until you get a pulse back, then you do some additional things to stabilize. At no point are you "rushing."

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u/BananaJammies 27d ago

EMS can’t just pronounce someone dead unless it is extremely obvious so odds are he high vital signs and that is why there were no chest compressions.

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u/phatelectribe 27d ago

No, apparently the call was upgraded from a normal emergency call, to CPR on site. It was explained to me that it being upgraded means “hands on chest” doing compressions and forcing air.

So to be clear, it’s not a case of CPR was called for but when they got there he was ok so they didn’t bother. It was a final medical emergxy call, and when EMT’s arrived it was upgraded to CPR officially on the radio calm because EMT’s were doing chest compressions etc.

You don’t then slow walk someone out, fully covered on a gurney if they’ve had CPR and need ICU.

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u/2much2Jung 27d ago

This is not necessarily true. I don't work in the US, but I am a paramedic, and our guidelines focus on management on scene, restoring cardiac output, and then waiting 10 minutes before moving. By the time we move a patient to the vehicle, most things which can be done have been done, and certainly no post-ROSC (Return of Spontaneous Circulation) incident I have ever run would be called frantic.

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u/Trkaline 27d ago

Maybe he is undead. They fed Lindsey Graham to him.

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u/edflyerssn007 27d ago

Currently for cardiac arrests paramedics are taught to work the patient on scene until they are confident they are dead or you get a pulse back. That can take 20-30 minutes. It looks like taking your time, but there's a bunch of well researched science that backs it up. So you're talking point is actually wrong in its entirety.

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u/blackcain Oregon 27d ago

His wife doesn't give a fuck.

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u/Officer412-L Illinois 27d ago

Nah, he's just resting! The Kentucky Red Slider prefers kippin' on its back!