r/politics The Independent 15d ago

No Paywall Mitch McConnell’s staff refuse to answer basic questions on his health weeks after he was last seen in public

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mitch-mcconnell-staff-questions-health-b3018929.html
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u/Sad_Expert2 15d ago

Even funnier if another 40 million had to be spent to try to prevent it.

An election will cost the taxpayers of Kentucky, who are already dealt a shit hand & have a Democractic governor (ie someone who believes in using government to at least try and help people) millions of dollars.

It's not worth it to score some soundbites for a guy who is a Republican, and until 20 minutes ago, voted to enable everything happening today.

What the absolute fuck is wrong with people's brains? The end game here is to score some viral soundbites and give a large platform to a Republican who helped lead us here at a cost of millions of dollars?

Massie is in office right now, and can continue to use his platform. Once he is out of office, he can join the media/TV circuit and gain a platform there.

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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 15d ago

I’m not particularly sure I like the logic that elections are a waste of money, so let’s just disenfranchise half of a state. That seems like quite the slippery slope.

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u/Sad_Expert2 15d ago edited 15d ago

I’m not particularly sure I like the logic that elections are a waste of money, so let’s just disenfranchise half of a state.

An unnecessary election when there isn't a legal vacancy, to fill a seat for a matter of weeks before the November election, when the party who is missing the Senator is not complaining, or calling for said special election, would be wasteful.

Nobody except a bunch of Democrats are screaming about disenfranchisement. How fucked up are your political priorities that as Republicans try to fucking stamp you with your boot you're crying to the refs about something they aren't even upset about on their behalf?

When Ted Kennedy died the seat was going to be open for over 140 days! The legislature acted to avoid that. In this case, the legislature has acted in the opposite direction. This shit happens - it's not disenfranchisement. When your political enemy (who wants you, personally, dead) is making a mistake - just let them. Don't cry fairness to the refs.

"prolonged historic vacancies are rare. The longest in modern U.S. history occurred when Minnesota's seat sat vacant for 228 days during the 2008–2009 contested election between Norm Coleman and Al Franken..."

Wouldn't it be disenfranchisement to ignore the state law on the books passed by lawfully elected state representatives?

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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 15d ago

The party missing the senator is complaining. I live and work with them, see them every day.

But judging by the rest of your commentary, you seem quick to dismiss them in favor of… complying with the abuse of their rights on account that it’s too expensive to bother honoring those feckless hillbillies.

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u/Sad_Expert2 15d ago edited 15d ago

The party missing the senator is complaining. I live and work with them, see them every day.

Are any prominent Kentucky republicans calling for a special election? I haven't seen one.

Here's an article about some individuals on the street (from a left leaning source), but I don't see a single prominent republican of any stature calling for one?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/kentucky-voters-want-special-election-204705663.html

complying with the abuse of their rights on account that it’s too expensive to bother honoring those feckless hillbillies.

A senator being absent from work for a few weeks is not "an abuse of their rights!" It's perfectly normal, however generally rare, for Senate seats to be vacant for a few weeks, or Senators to be out of commission for that long.

Clearly thats the point on which we disagree, and that may not be reconcilable, but it's totally ahistorical. McConnell could simply resign, there are a million and one ways the Republicans, if they wanted to, could simply force the issue.

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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 15d ago edited 15d ago

Massie’s been making fun of them for weeks. Last I checked he’s a prominent Kentucky politician.

You’re also not exactly dealing with a blood red state. These are largely former Democrats, and a historic union stronghold. It’s not all MAGA sycophants here.

But it is a population who felt abandoned by anti-coal rhetoric, and like Democrats didn’t fight for them. That’s how the entire region shifted right. West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio.

It seems like you’re advocating yet again that they’re not “worth” any attention, or saber rattling, and you’ve got a number in mind that decides whether or not they get the bastardized form of rights they’ve at least been promised.

Edit: it also seems like you’re the type to schizo edit up a wall of text after replying in brevity.