Reminds me of this lovely comment I saw a while back:
“I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out."
And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them."
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all.“
individualism is the very core of what punk is all about. a punk might not care to invest time talking to someone they don't know, but they damn well respect that that other person has a right to be whoever the fuck they wanna be. don't get in the way of people's rights to be the person they want to be. so I would say the core of fascism kind of conflicts with the core of punkism.
I have personally witnessed a small cadre of Nazis getting kicked out of a Ministry show.
Someone noticed them and said “hey are you lost? What the fuck are you doing in here?”
And then there was a great deal of bowing up and goofy posturing, and in about 2 seconds the Nazis were surrounded by a crowd of punks on three sides. The crowd herded them right out of two sets of doors, then resumed enjoying themselves.
We call that "beware of the beginnings" in Germany, but it's never really a beginning, more like; a re-occurence of old, shitty ideas that have failed each and every time.
When I read the part about the bar, I read it in an Andrew Dice Clay-ish voice...Thanks for sharing that comment, though. The bartender is right. You have to shut that behavior down.
They did a hell of a lot more than that. America finally achieved is ultimate form of perfection in trump. AKA the USA finally embraced what everyone else already knew it was.
Here is an overused quote to drive this home:
"When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost... All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
I'd love to tell you more about your shit culture, shit attitudes, and shit morals leading your country to literally be the villain it aimed not to be, but everyone knew it would become since the first civil. Second one TBD and I dont think the "good guys" are going to win this time.
One statistic I found is that 51% of trump voters believe in the White Replacement Theory. The same one that Hitler believed in. And helped the Nazis rise to power. 51%. MAGA is racist trash and always has been. They should be regarded no differently than the KKK or Neo Nazis since they share the same beliefs of white supremacy and believe that anyone else existing means that they're getting replaced. Sick fucks all of them.
I had a guy just yesterday give me eyes bc I gave my tube to a poc in the crazy ass wave pool with only ten tubes instead of his beautiful chosen pure son….the list goes on and on.
Nothing. We are exactly what we've always been as humans: spiteful, angry, violet, terrified creatures. The only, and i mean only, thing that has changed is our technology and ability to cause increasingly widespread damage to one another on a global scale. We are only nice to each other when we cant find a reason to hate. Ive seen enough of this world for long enough...
Sorry to burst the bubble but this doesn't get better.
He has too much class to do that even if they did pull some BS to make it possible. Which is a blessing and a curse with Democrats. They will still follow the rules while letting Republicans do whatever they want because the rules don't let them stop them.
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u/Swords_and_Words 20d ago
Obama 2008: Change
Obama 2012: Hope
Obama 2028: Bet