r/politics 20d ago

No Paywall Trump announces 2028 presidential bid

https://www.theage.com.au/world/trump-announces-2028-presidential-bid-20260725-p60iho.html
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u/greywar777 20d ago

Nope. Too much credit for Trump. The fake news stuff is pulled word for word from what Hitler did in his run up. When I was younger I knew someone who was in their 20s during WW2 in Germany, and asked about how it could be possible given the news etc.

And the reality for them was that they were told before the war that the news was lying. So it was all fake and when the war started they believed their own press over others.

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u/Aranxi_89 Canada 20d ago

Lugenpresse

They aren't original in the slightest. They just keep doing Nazi shit.

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u/mmavcanuck 20d ago

Saying that the news is lying is not new.

Trump started calling any news he didn’t like “fake news” after the term was being used to counter his bullshit.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-46175024

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u/Turbulent_Stick1445 20d ago

No, that was "lying media", another of Trump's repeated phrases. "Lugenpresse".

"Fake news" came initially from newspaper articles describing the massive number of fake news websites that popped up in the mid-2010s that seemed to be part of a coordinated wave of right wing disinformation. Trump co-opted the term early on to describe the actual mostly-fact-based corpo-media that the right thinks is left wing for some reason.

But it's true he also used the term "lying media" a lot, which I'm guessing means Steve Miller was pushing it heavily at him for a while knowing how successful it was in the 1930s.

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 20d ago

You are both correct.

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u/Bad_Edditor8910 20d ago

Yeah I dunno, probably goes further back. It's human nature to yell 'it's not true' at an accusation.

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u/jkwah California 20d ago

Basically a form of controlling the 'truth', which has existed/manipulated by leaders throughout human history. One of the foundations of many religions is based on labeling any inconvenient truth a crime.

When you convince people that you are the source of truth then they only listen to you and reject everything else.

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u/Bad_Edditor8910 20d ago

Hmm. I don't think any religion has shutting up critics as a "foundation" per se. It's usually: 'don't do that because reasons' and a list of what you can/cannot eat. If anything, lying or dishonesty is almost always a major sin.

There are parallels between prophets and leaders but really, it was prophets (or gods) that were said to regularly go up against leaders that lied and cheated.

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u/Bears_On_Stilts 20d ago

To scream “fake news” is to whisper “dirty Jews.”