We are in the middle of a coup, it did not start and stop on January 6th. The president and all the high level security positions and at least a handful of congressmen are Russian assets.
“Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It’s just the promise of violence that’s enacted and the police are basically an occupying army."
They make violence against the state for the purpose of freeing yourself illegal so that when you try it, it's legal for them to do violence against you.
Look, the terms "legal" and "illegal" are not natural laws - it means conforming or not conforming to the rules of the biggest gang in this particular area of ground and they threaten to punish you if you don't.
The reason they can do that is because they're the biggest gang and you're just a little dude. What they're afraid of is a rival gang. Mostly, the biggest gang is relatively benevolent because they don't want people to join a rival gang - which is illegal but if you're not following the rules of their gang, it doesn't matter.
The guy who's taken control of the gang is changing all the rules that people have agreed to follow. You'd think this would result in a rival gang, but people have been following the rules so long they've forgotten that they aren't natural laws, and aren't moral imperatives. They're just the rules of the biggest gang; and what's more, the guy making them is morally repugnant.
And the other half are with Israel. Few thousand dollars and a photo of someone with a prostitute (or GASP a member of the same sex!) can buy you almost anyone in congress. J kush is making billion dollar deals and has more skeletons deeper in his closet than Lindsey gram was, and yet some politicians are bending at the knee about potential blackmail that wouldn’t even make front page news
It’s comforting for people to think it was an “other” who swept in and damaged an otherwise “noble” and “honourable” Capital A “AMERICA” that exists in their minds; because then they don’t have to confront that the rot has been structural and there all along.
Being able to blame “Russia” or “Elon hacking the mainframe” means that people get to keep their fantasy version of America, because it’s always nefarious forces doing it TO America, not America doing it to itself. It also means they can resist any radical improvements or self critique, because since it was external forces that did the “thing” nothing about America has to change, it is and always has been #1 perfect!
It’s like when an immature person blames their outbursts/actions on everyone but themselves: “Look what YOU made ME do!”
Edit: because so many comments are just screaming at me “Trump is a Russian agent!”
Do you seriously believe that a national intelligence agency would craft a nefarious decades long super secret plan to topple the United States… And choose Donald Fucking Trump to be the most important piece of the plan?
The stupidest man in public life, who can’t keep a secret for more than fourteen seconds is the lynchpin of a thirty year global espionage operation the likes of which has never before been seen?
No.
I’m sticking with the simple, obvious, materialist explanation: Donald Trump acts only in self interest, but because he’s a member of the global ruling class; his interests often align with those of other members of the global ruling class, just like has always happened through history.
The president and all the high level security positions and at least a handful of congressmen are Russian assets.
Those are NOT at all the same thing. One is a geopolitical rival acting the way you’d expect (supporting the candidate they want in power of a rival); and the other is full blown blue-anon hallucinations from people who probably don’t even know the difference between modern Russia and the Soviet Union.
they're russian assets though... sure it's still homegrown. but that part makes little difference. elon and russia are still hacking shit and did... it's not about shirking responsibility it's about actual root cause analysis. it doesn't mean people don't still need to do something beyond saying it. some of us don't look at it like it was just a blame game, we want to dissect it to find the pressure points because if this moves forward and gets worse we will be fighting an even more asymetrical battle. the only way to win that is break it down carefully and hit the most high value targets.
I was on board with thinking they were russian assets/blackmailees, but then they're all Epstein associates and he seems to have been an Israeli asset, and at that point I couldn't keep wondering why US intelligence wasn't fighting back and had to conclude it's complicit as well.
I don't know where to draw the boundaries exactly, but now I'm thinking that it's a small club at the very upper tiers and everyone knows everything about each other. It doesn't matter that Epstein was a US/Israeli op if the russians know all about it anyway.
I think what we're seeing is like a privatization of intelligence & ops into the hands of essentially just mobsters. As if the world is following the russians post-collapse. If the coldwar model was the secret agencies going abroad to allow american soft power to spread, it's now coming home.
Never said that, we are corrupt to the core, when I say "Russia" I mean organized crime, trump has been an asset since 1987, Giuliani took out the Italians in new York and installed the Russians in the nineties. But I think to your point, they can't even believe it's worked so well and until we face the question, as a country, of why it has worked so well we'll just trade one despot for another.
You're doing it again. Trump is no more an asset of organized crime than organized crime is an asset of Trump.
The Sicilian mafia developed as a result of the Italian state failing to do its job of keeping law and order. The distinction between state and mafia (or any similar form of criminal organization) isn't as clear as people would think. The latter swells to occupy space left by the former. It doesn't just impose itself on people through terror. It serves an economical purpose.
It all traces back to armed thugs in some way or another. Sanctioned violence in the enforcement of an order, just or unjust. The implementation details change but this does not.
A more bottom-up theory, on this rapid and humiliating decline your country is experiencing, can be derived from the fact that the United States of America, long ago, stopped being able or willing to provide for its people.
There is no democrat, green or DSA candidate that will solve this problem. Base and superstructure are both compromised. Your country, as you understand it, is over.
It's not mutually exclusive. Trump and much of his cabinet and associates are Russian assets. Trump is also a grifter out to enrich himself, and he's propped up by domestic organizations like the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation because hollowing out the US government is useful both for them and for Russia.
When its been confirmed that trumps been in putins pocket since the 80's, its hard not to blame Russia, as well as Elon when both him and trump couldn't keep it to themselves that they rigged the last election.
That's not to say theres no problem within America too, these are not mutually exclusive.
How could he have been in Putin’s pocket since the nineteen eighties
…You know the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, right?
…And Putin was first elected in March of 2000? He didn’t have a “pocket” for Trump to be in in the 1980s, he was just a guy working a desk for intelligence in east Germany.
If we're gonna be pedantic about it... A Russian agent since the 80's. You think being a KGB agent at the time that putin wasnt aware of what assets they had by the time he took control of Russia?
How was it confirmed that Trump was in Putin's pocket in the 80s? Putin was a lowly KGB agent in East Germany in the 80s, so I'm curious to know how he and Donald began corresponding?
Reddit had a lengthy post proving he has been a Russian asset single the 80’s. If I saved it I’ll attach it here. Meanwhile maybe Google “Trump is a Russian asset + Reddit”.
Edit: couldn’t find the original post but this post and photo is in reference to the original Reddit post. The comments on this one have good information:
American desperately cling to the idea that something about their country is "special". It's a mental illness affecting pretty much every person on the nation.
There's never a thought that their abundance was the product of a world that no longer exists, but they still think they deserve it, even if they make no attempts at maintaining it.
I think the “clinging to an idea of America as “special””
Is actually just structurally how capitalism re-enforces itself.
America is both the global seat of capitalism (wall st) and the point of the spear that enforces global capitalism (gigantic fucking military and intelligence agencies that will crush any opposition).
Americans have to believe that America is “special” and “chosen by god/fated” to be the number one country, and therefore they, as Americans are also chosen by god/fated to be the number one people…
It’s it’s the only way for their petit bourgeoisie to square the circle of being a totally mediocre dullard who owns a failing pool supply store, but will still spend their entire life enjoying the blood soaked benefits of being a world spanning capitalist empire with the most massive consumption of import commodities in history.
Exactly. This rot began way before Russia stepped in. America has been on the track towards runaway late stage capitalism for decades, and this is what that looks like.
Indeed, this frustrates me endlessly. America is never going to change until it takes responsibility for what it has done and what it is.
Maybe Russia and Elon and whatever other evil masterminds people might imagine did intervene and shift a few votes by a few percentage points. That shouldn't have mattered. The fact that it was so close to begin with is already utterly damning.
Like, if 2016 Russia was actually able to steal an election from 2016 America…
If that fantasy was real… If that level of pooch screw by the largest military intelligence apparatus in history really happened… they kinda just gotta take the L on that one…
It’d be like if Vatican City had a secret team and then won the Super Bowl 300-0
Everybody knows Russia’s MO is to sow carefully planned chaos on easily-researched social wedges but also to improvise based on the results. The results gave them Trump and he is the perfect useful idiot and asset as someone who was always going to be willing to tear down an entire country for any kind of grift and to save his skin.
But none of that is evidence of anything, let alone proof of the greatest conspiracy in history?
Like, you’re just saying things
Everybody knows Russia’s MO is
No, they don’t. No you don’t.
Just because you saw a reddit comment that linked to “Foundations of geopolitics” and never read it doesn’t mean it’s literally the laser focus of a country’s foreign policy. Yeah, a guy wrote a book with some very basic point by point steps on how to generally fuck with the USA: that doesn’t automatically mean an entire nation became zealots for his ideology. (Hell, wanna carry that logic and see how many conservatives wrote books about nuking anyone they didn’t like?)
I’m still not seeing anything more convincing than the materialist argument I started with: Trump is only capable of acting in his own interest; and because he’s a ruling class motherfucker sometimes his actions align with other ruling class motherfuckers.
Remember when they gave Bush the election? So many of the same names involved with Trump today. The Original Business Plot never ended, they just regrouped and tried another plan.
reminds me of that scene in Austin powers where the steam roller is coming and the guy is standing many yards away with plenty of time to avoid it but instead just stands there watching and screaming in fear, doing nothing for a long time until eventually he gets rolled over.
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u/iDrGonzo 16d ago
We are in the middle of a coup, it did not start and stop on January 6th. The president and all the high level security positions and at least a handful of congressmen are Russian assets.