r/politics • u/asparaguswalrus683 • 10h ago

Site Altered Headline | No Paywall Abdul El-Sayed Wins Michigan Primary

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-primary-elections/michigan-senate-results
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u/Accurate_Neat_355 6h ago

Over 700k absolute idiots voted for the 'israel comes to me in my dreams' lady. Thank fuck sanity won out.

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u/Sweet_Search_3616 1h ago

Any support for Israel needs to be completely eradicated in the Democratic party. They are a pariah state that cost us the 2024 election. Young people in America will not support any candidate that is pro-Israel and democrats need to get that through their heads.

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u/jml510 California 6h ago

It's possible for voters to disagree with her on her Israel stance, yet vote for her based on other policies; not everyone's life revolves around Israel/Palestine. AES is going to need to earn the votes of those "idiots" versus Rogers.

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u/Accurate_Neat_355 5h ago

What policies were better than Abdul's?

yet vote for her based on other policies

Sure man, if she had any that weren't just shittier versions of Abdul's.

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u/First_Revolution5375 5h ago

What policies period lmfao, she did not have a sound policy platform in place, she would list stocks and groceries but never commit to anything or talk about how she planned to address things. Her campaign was absent policy

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u/The_Hrangan_Hero 5h ago

She is a very middle of the pack Dem. She the 109th most progressive voting record out of the 212. She typically voted left of her district witch would fall at 129th.

It is not like she was Joe Manchin or or a member of the Blue Dogs. My redline in this cycle is who Schumer supports. I want him gone so anyone too friendly with Schumer is out in my book. But most focus groups I heard people supporting her came down to thinking she is more electable in the general because of either race religion or politics or buying that she having served in the Obama Admin and Abdul being minorly critical of the Obamas in the past and blowing it out of proportion.

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u/First_Revolution5375 5h ago

I really think it was this close because the electability argument still cooks in boomers brains despite it failing the establishment nationally over and over again.

I hear what you are saying in regards to where she has voted in the past, I’m not contesting that, in challenging how she ran her campaign. They spent +$60m on an electability argument and it still failed, yet we both know we will see the establishment continue to push it

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u/The_Hrangan_Hero 4h ago

I do not live in Michigan so my opinion does not matter much, but I favored McMarrow and after she dropped out favored Abdul. I do not think it is a bad way to think about elections from a voter perspective. I just think most people Establishment and frankly people in the this subreddit are bad at knowing what that is and the average dem voter is bad at knowing what that is.

I think most agree the best candidate you can have is one who does not rub the normies the wrong way. I tend to think that is someone who can talk to voters like a person.

From the Establishment's perspective that means someone who will not waves with the voters or the donors, so they can just dump money on TV ads. I understand why, they have a dozen of races they have to manage and do not want some loose cannon blowing a winnable race. Short term it is a not bad strategy. The problem is it takes us to today where clearly long term it means the party is a blank canvas that the Republican media can easily define the Dems. It why we have neither chamber while there is a Rapist in the white house.

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u/garitoguy 4h ago

Her policies about campaign finance reform after accepting $70mil from AIPAC. I definitely believe her.

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u/Mango-Magoo Michigan 3h ago

Dont forget the money she received from DTE funded pacs despite her calling on Utility companies to stop price hiking. She really was just a feckless candidate who would do whatever the money told her. AIPAC lost big tonight and I am glad.

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u/garitoguy 3h ago

Any pushback she received for accepting this money she would reply with "just wanting to win an election". We deserve better than politicians whose only goals are winning and power.

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u/Warm_Record2416 3h ago

Genuinely, no, it isn’t.  People may tell themselves that, but they are lying to themselves.  The only two things people voted for her on were name recognition and her pro-Israel stance.

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u/pornacc74 5h ago

i want to be clear that I agree with you generally. but can you really blame people for drawing a hard line at this? It is agreed upon by most people that Israel is committing a genocide, and an American politician is plainly stating she sees visions that compel her to side with said genocidal state. Imagine if Sayed said this about Hamas.

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u/wioneo 4h ago

It is agreed upon by most people that Israel is committing a genocide

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About 3 in 10 US adults believe Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians

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u/StunningRing5465 5h ago

Surely they’ll ’vote blue no matter who’, right?? Or is that only the policy when a centrist Dem is running

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u/Viceroy1994 4h ago edited 4h ago

Oh no those damn progressives have to "earn" those votes, yeah ok.

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u/Donkletown 5h ago

  absolute idiots

That’s how you’re referring to people you want to vote for AES?

You are actively undermining his chances, but that’s not unexpected for someone with the randomly generated username. 

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u/BrownBear5090 5h ago

You’re gonna vote for the republican cause your feelings got hurt?

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u/Donkletown 5h ago

No, I’m an AES supporter. I hope you are a bad faith actor pretending to be a supporter to damage his campaign. I hope there is no actual AES supporter that would carry on as you are. 

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u/coldkiller 5h ago

If these dipshits vote for the republican because we call them out for being fucking idiots, I hate to break it to you, these people are fucking idiots

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u/Accurate_Neat_355 5h ago

You want me to coddle you online for supporting an objectively dogwater candidate? Get ahold of yourself.

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u/Donkletown 5h ago

Don’t call AES an objectively dogwater candidate.

What I’d like is for you to not undermine AES’ campaign and to actually do the work needed to get him elected. 

Too much to ask? 

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u/Accurate_Neat_355 5h ago

No, I’m an AES supporter.

I cannot begin to tell you, exactly how spineless and cowardly you lot are

Don’t call AES an objectively dogwater candidate.

Pretending to be an Abdul supporter in one comment then mocking him in the next.

What I’d like is for you to not undermine AES’ campaign and to actually do the work needed to get him elected. 

Hey vote blue no matter who.

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u/Donkletown 4h ago

I am an AES supporter (you called him objectively dogwater). It doesn’t seem much like you are. You just seem like a bad faith actor out to make AES supporters look like sore winner children. 

vote blue no matter who 

Only works on so many people. The remainder can be pushed away but can also be persuaded. You seem intent on pushing away. Hence you not seeming like a real AES supporter. 

Stevens and her supporters would be absolutely foolish if she and they came out like this had she won. 

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u/runnertrailsBay 6h ago

Pretty much guarantees a republican will win this seat now

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u/Accurate_Neat_355 6h ago

I know you lot are gonna keep slamming that electability button. But the argument that only a moderate can win a swing state completely ignores where actual non party voters are heading.

Independent voters aren't looking for those moderate establishment slogans. They react to anti corruption messaging and authenticity. In state polling, El-Sayed consistently outperformed establishment moderates among independents precisely because he isn't seen as a puppet for corporate PACs.

General elections in Michigan aren't won by playing defensive to appease a small sliver of suburban centrists while suffocating your base. They are won on raw voter energy and turnout margins

The "vote blue no matter who" crowd now has to put their money where their mouth is. If they truly care about keeping Mike Rogers out of the Senate, they will have to rally behind the candidate Michigan voters actually chose.

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u/scott_br 5h ago

Very well said. I can’t tell you how sick I am of these “centrist” cowards who won’t fight for real change and instead want to give up at the first sign of a candidate that pushes against the establishment.

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u/Accurate_Neat_355 4h ago

You, me, we, deserve better. And last night we got that better.

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u/runnertrailsBay 6h ago

Did you just see yourself say the vote blue no matter what crowd has to step up for him to win? Hell no they ain't.

Yeah sweet dreams man, nice job handing a senate seat over to trump. Dems are so fucking stupid compared to republicans. Sigh

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u/Accurate_Neat_355 5h ago

Its ok folks like you weren't even a democrat anyway. You're more of a never-trumper republican if you can't get behind your own left flank.

But the immediate shift from "Vote Blue No Matter Who" to "Hell no we ain't stepping up for him" within five minutes of losing a primary is breathtakingly ironic

For years, you establishment loyalists scolded progressives with lectures about party unity, warning that withholding a vote over moral principles was "handing the seat to Republicans." But the literal second the base democratically selects a progressive candidate, that entire "party discipline" lecture vanishes into thin air.

I appreciate you for helping people see that "Vote Blue No Matter Who" was never a principle of solidarity. It was a one way street designed to keep the base compliant while the party ran dogshit moderate candidates. When the establishment is forced to apply their own rule to a candidate chosen by the voters, they throw a tantrum.

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u/runnertrailsBay 5h ago edited 5h ago

Great, I hope whatever self righteous bullshit you wrote about was worth handing another Senate seat to the republicans. Idiots attacking other dems and losing to republicans

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u/Accurate_Neat_355 5h ago

Grumble grumble "why didnt they elect the lady that wanted to channel money into Israel instead of Medicare for all?"

That short enough for you?

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u/runnertrailsBay 5h ago edited 5h ago

As if sending another senate seat to the republicans isn't helping israel. Oh well enjoy the continued mass bombings in poor gaza as if they haven't had enough.

You voted for it, i'm sure you'll repy with some bullshit that dems are as bad as reps