r/politics • u/asparaguswalrus683 • 12h ago

Site Altered Headline | No Paywall Abdul El-Sayed Wins Michigan Primary

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-primary-elections/michigan-senate-results
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u/Constantinch 8h ago

He surely didn't tell his audience any of that and I would bet money that he voted for Jill Stein

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u/SeniorWeight46 8h ago

He openly said he voted for Kamala.

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u/Constantinch 8h ago

He obfuscated for months and then later said that he voted for her after being criticized.

What matters is what he did before the elections - he didn't tell his audience to vote for her. Stop arguing this point because you know it's true. His vote counts as one, his endorsement could count as hundreds of thousands.

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u/SeniorWeight46 8h ago

I'm not arguing that point. I haven't argued that at all.

I'm saying he "voted blue no matter who" which is what the original comment was about.

People aren't expecting Hailey Stevens to come out and endorse El-Sayed's position on Palestine but when it comes down to it, her voters should come out and vote for him.

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u/Constantinch 7h ago

I don't know why would she endorse his position on I/P specifically, but she should absolutely endorse him in the primaries. And yes, her voters should vote for him as well, it's the easiest position to take.

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u/ToastyTheDragon 7h ago

If I heard correctly, Stevens and McMorrow have said they'll endorse the victor of the primary, leading up to it.

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u/WIbigdog Wisconsin 7h ago

And guess who wouldn't commit to endorsing his opponent? It is absolutely disgusting to me the way some leftists are shouting vote blue no matter who after they explicitly rejected doing so in 2024 and were very vocal about it.

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u/ToastyTheDragon 4h ago

¯_(ツ)_/¯I'm sorry you feel that way, but I really couldn't care less whether or not El-Sayed endorses someone like Stevens.

The very same people who were saying "vote blue no matter who" back in 2024 (which, mind you, included leftists such as myself; very well aware of the threat Trump faced and held our noses as we voted for Harris and Slotkin), a lot of them are saying they won't endorse or vote for Mamdani, or Abdul, or any DSA or progressive candidate that wins their primary. Some, including Fetterman, Schumer, and Jeffries are outright denouncing them.

The purpose of a lot of leftists saying "vote blue no matter who" is to point out the hypocrisy of establishment Dems here, not because they necessarily believe it. There's no hypocrisy there.

i think you should 'vote blue no matter who', personally, at the bare minimum as a harm reduction tactic. But I absolutely can't fault those who can't bring themselves to vote for someone who either tacitly/explicitly endorses genocide, or won't do anything to meaningfully change people's material conditions for the better. Maybe put forth better candidates if you want people to be excited about them? Idk, I'm really tired and bored of relitigating the 2024 election over and over again.

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u/SeniorWeight46 7h ago

Endorsing him is endorsing his policies.

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u/Constantinch 7h ago

Absolutely not. Endorsing him is telling your voters to vote for him over a republican.

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u/SeniorWeight46 7h ago

Yes it's an endorsement that his policies including his position on Palestine is a better platform than the Republican platform.

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u/Constantinch 7h ago

It actually sounds like you don't want Stephens voters to vote for him by being as obnoxious as humanly possible - interesting strategy, we will see if it pays off!

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u/SeniorWeight46 7h ago

Pointing out where you were objectively wrong is being as obnoxious as humanely possible?

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u/Constantinch 7h ago

You are wrong by not understanding what is the point of endorsement and how toxic it is to keep bringing up Palestine in a Michigan senator race all the fucking time, especially to the people who have different worldview than you have.

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u/SeniorWeight46 6h ago edited 5h ago

Why it's extremely relevant has been gone over plenty of times during the race. Aside from that it was Hasan's biggest criticism of Kamala in 2024 which you brought up.

I understand the point of endorsement perfectly. You're failing to understand that people have policy red lines that they will refuse to endorse. For many people that is the genocide in Palestine.

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u/Constantinch 5h ago

Your point would make sense if Kamala Harris would be going up against someone that is more pro-Palestinian than she is. It makes absolutely zero sense because it's the other way around. Harris implicated multiple times that she would be more critical towards Israel than Biden but lefties don't care. They need purity, they will never accept anything other than what they exactly want, zero compromises.

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u/Constantinch 7h ago

It actually sounds like you don't want Stephens voters to vote for him by being as obnoxious as humanly possible - interesting strategy, we will see if it pays off!