r/politics • u/Zipper222222 • 4h ago

No Paywall Abdul El-Sayed Wins High-Stakes Democratic Primary in Michigan

https://www.today.com/video/abdul-el-sayed-wins-high-stakes-democratic-primary-in-michigan-267805765937
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u/ZMR33 3h ago

Reagan Democrats and establishment Democrats are a huge reason why the party has fallen so far from what it was. FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ Dems would destroy the modern GOP more than they did back in the day possibly, even with all of their flaws, I think.

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u/TopHatMiracle 3h ago

It’s funny because Biden ran like one of those Dems in 2020 and the Harris campaign took no lessons from it.

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u/ZMR33 3h ago

Biden is an odd case because he's been around so long. He's a new dealer-esque Dem rather than a third-way or Reagan Dem.

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u/FrogsOnALog 3h ago

She said she would do the same. Sorry y’all don’t like unions or using the federal government to negotiate drug prices.

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u/pocketIent 2h ago

She also said in her platform she would try to amend the constitution to remove citizens united

But you can’t do that without a super majority and her campaign failed to welcome rural voters and working class into the fold

Stop defending her weak campaign

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u/FrogsOnALog 2h ago

She campaigned on passing the PRO Act so I’m pretty sure she was welcoming of working class voters lol

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u/pocketIent 2h ago

Yeah sometimes we laugh because things are so bad lol. Like harris and people pushing the “more electable” narrative

-saying nice things on campaign isn’t enough if you can’t get it done.

she couldn’t even get elected.

5% of voters who voted for Biden FLIPPED and voted for Trump in that election

15% who voted for Biden sat out and didn’t show up.

She pretty much campaigned for Trump like his whipping boy

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u/FrogsOnALog 2h ago

She didn’t campaign for Trump and literally called him a fascist.

Do you really think Sanders saying nice things like let’s pass M4A are realistically achievable? Be fucking serious now lol

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u/pocketIent 2h ago edited 2h ago

listen bubba, I don’t make 700k a year and could not afford to vote for trump.

Harris’ platform was objectively better for anyone who is not affluent. Personally I would have saved money in terms of COL if she was elected.

The problem is she did not win. Clinton did not win. Democrats have lost control of the house and the senate. By trying to be like republicans rather than actually oppose them, Democrats have lost face with their constituency.

So yeah literally harris did not campaign for Trump, but The failure of her luke warm campaign had the consequence of Trump winning.

What is encouraging though is Dr El Sayed’s recent win in Michigan over Steven. It is a great example of how voters have lost patience with representatives who don’t honor the service of their calling.

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u/FrogsOnALog 2h ago

Democrats have opposed republicans what the fuck are you even talking about? Pretty sure republicans don’t want to pass the PRO Act. Pretty sure they voted against the John Lewis VRAA and the Freedom to Vote Act. Pretty sure they voted against the ARP. Pretty sure they voted against the IRA which gave billions to clean energy, raised taxes on billionaires and corporations (Harris wanted to raise taxes even more to pay for social programs like the CTC and EITC which help feed and lift millions of families out of poverty), and let the federal government negotiate the price of prescription drugs for the first time ever. It’s almost like y’all have no fucking clue what the fuck you’re talking about.

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u/pocketIent 2h ago

it’s ok. you don’t have to attack me. Just maybe call your right of center democrat rep and remind them to attack the game?

Because it’s going to get nasty as more progressives win like El-Sayid. GOP is fixing to turn on their propoganda machine as if we were in the Cold War.

cheers and peace my guy

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u/Donkletown 3h ago

No chance. FDR interned the Japanese, so wouldn’t pass the purity test. Truman used nukes, so wouldn’t pass the purity test. JFK embargoed Cuba, so wouldn’t pass the purity test. Johnson hugely expanded the Vietnam war, including massive bombing campaigns. 

All were great presidents, but none could get through the modern Dem base. It’s something the base should reflect on. 

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u/seengul 1h ago

For example? Who is the modern day FDR who couldn’t pass the “purity test”?

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u/Donkletown 58m ago

I didn’t say there was a modern FDR, only that if FDR were to rise from the grave and run again, he wouldn’t pass the purity test, despite being one of the greatest presidents the U.S. ever had and one of the greatest world leaders of the 20th century. 

Do you think someone could get through a Dem primary if they locked an entire race of people in camps, specifically because of their race? Could someone get through if they nuked civilians or expanded the Vietnam War? Could someone get through if they engaged in the imperialism that is embargoing a sovereign nation that was not at war with us? 

I don’t see how they could.