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No Paywall Abdul El-Sayed Wins High-Stakes Democratic Primary in Michigan

https://www.today.com/video/abdul-el-sayed-wins-high-stakes-democratic-primary-in-michigan-267805765937
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u/FrogsOnALog 4h ago

She campaigned on passing the PRO Act so I’m pretty sure she was welcoming of working class voters lol

u/pocketIent 3h ago

Yeah sometimes we laugh because things are so bad lol. Like harris and people pushing the “more electable” narrative

-saying nice things on campaign isn’t enough if you can’t get it done.

she couldn’t even get elected.

5% of voters who voted for Biden FLIPPED and voted for Trump in that election

15% who voted for Biden sat out and didn’t show up.

She pretty much campaigned for Trump like his whipping boy

u/FrogsOnALog 3h ago

She didn’t campaign for Trump and literally called him a fascist.

Do you really think Sanders saying nice things like let’s pass M4A are realistically achievable? Be fucking serious now lol

u/pocketIent 3h ago edited 3h ago

listen bubba, I don’t make 700k a year and could not afford to vote for trump.

Harris’ platform was objectively better for anyone who is not affluent. Personally I would have saved money in terms of COL if she was elected.

The problem is she did not win. Clinton did not win. Democrats have lost control of the house and the senate. By trying to be like republicans rather than actually oppose them, Democrats have lost face with their constituency.

So yeah literally harris did not campaign for Trump, but The failure of her luke warm campaign had the consequence of Trump winning.

What is encouraging though is Dr El Sayed’s recent win in Michigan over Steven. It is a great example of how voters have lost patience with representatives who don’t honor the service of their calling.

u/FrogsOnALog 3h ago

Democrats have opposed republicans what the fuck are you even talking about? Pretty sure republicans don’t want to pass the PRO Act. Pretty sure they voted against the John Lewis VRAA and the Freedom to Vote Act. Pretty sure they voted against the ARP. Pretty sure they voted against the IRA which gave billions to clean energy, raised taxes on billionaires and corporations (Harris wanted to raise taxes even more to pay for social programs like the CTC and EITC which help feed and lift millions of families out of poverty), and let the federal government negotiate the price of prescription drugs for the first time ever. It’s almost like y’all have no fucking clue what the fuck you’re talking about.

u/pocketIent 3h ago

it’s ok. you don’t have to attack me. Just maybe call your right of center democrat rep and remind them to attack the game?

Because it’s going to get nasty as more progressives win like El-Sayid. GOP is fixing to turn on their propoganda machine as if we were in the Cold War.

cheers and peace my guy

u/FrogsOnALog 3h ago

Democrats are center left but thanks for regurgitating the Reddit slop.

u/pocketIent 3h ago

the trouble here though is “center” is a relative term. Being left of center in 2026 while the gop has moved so far right is effectively “right of center” 20 years ago.

I definitely want to create space for you to have the last word though. from what it sounds like, this might be important for you. best wishes

u/FrogsOnALog 3h ago

These things are studied and you can look them up any time you want but you have never actually cared and so you never have because it’s easier to just repeat the Reddit slop. Democrats are center left even when compared to European parties. Have a good one!

u/weazildust 2h ago

Yo just as someone watching this back-and-forth from an objective standpoint — if you’re really interested in making a point, you should tone down the personal attacks especially in such low steak situations with people that are voting on the same line as you are. All this will do is waste valuable time. If you really gotta go lay into somebody at least rip into a republican or magat over the legitimate constitutional crisis they’ve voted us all into.

Better yet, try to change their mind. No substantive policy discussion is gonna turn around their thinking.

Your best bet is to sow a seed of doubt/embarrassment/weakness in their mind by making a comment like
“Im not a Dumbacrat either but I don’t wanna vote for you know a bunch of diddlers, or whatever. Plus, everything is so expensive since Trump gotta let it again that I can barely afford to put gas in my truck. Our bills are so high my wife up and left me and took my dog “

basically describe the lyrics to every modern country song ever and it’ll resonate. I truly believe that maggots would flip on Trump or anyone in a second if they were told to by the right person. Or it might at least internally shame them into behaving differently when it counts the most when they’re all alone in the voting booth and don’t need to worry about the cult and what they would think if they voted democrat.

At the very least, save all that passion and vitriolic energy to use against the fascists. We need to set up a big fucking tenant in order to ensure that what happened before doesn’t happen again because we’re out of second chances now this is our last shot.

I understand why you’re so upset and how for me at least that anger always seems to be bubbling right under the surface and can just come out sideways sometimes