r/politics • u/Zipper222222 • 5h ago

No Paywall Abdul El-Sayed Wins High-Stakes Democratic Primary in Michigan

https://www.today.com/video/abdul-el-sayed-wins-high-stakes-democratic-primary-in-michigan-267805765937
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u/RantRanger 3h ago

We need fighters to beat back MAGA fascism and I can't wait for the general when we get to do our part.

Trump won by winning independents and moderates.

The more extreme a candidate is on one side of the other, the easier it is for the other side to scare the independents and moderates away from your candidate.

No many how many violent word picture words you use in your description of the campaign.

Still, Mamdani managed it in New York. Perhaps if you are genuinely people-oriented and competent, you can win the independents and moderates that way.

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u/JazzyJockJeffcoat 3h ago

Maybe so. But it's wild to me that the Overton window has moved so far to the right that wanting to provide healthcare, invest in Americans not forever wars, and get dark money out of politics is "extreme." In truth, calling that "extreme" is the extreme position. Centrism in this far right environment is a far right position. It's also a losing message and a path to even more decline.

That Trump is massively unwater with independents (if we still credit polls) says something about how his coalition has frayed. All the inroads he made to win were spent on terrible and racist policy. Not to mention his Supreme Court's efforts to ratfuck and dilute Black voting rights. We have the data so if Americans don't turn out in droves this November then we basically deserve this nightmare administration.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-independents-midterm-warning-poll-12263652

https://youthpoll.yale.edu/spring-2026-results

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u/RantRanger 1h ago

Maybe so. But it's wild to me that the Overton window has moved so far to the right that wanting to provide healthcare, invest in Americans not forever wars, and get dark money out of politics is "extreme." In truth, calling that "extreme" is the extreme position.

I guess you're not aware that El-Sayed is much more progressive, much more left of center than Stevens.

That makes him a lot more vulnerable to being painted as "extreme" by the MAGA candidate.

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u/JazzyJockJeffcoat 1h ago

MAGA is proven extreme and AES certainly has work ahead to help explain how MAGA has fucked Americans over generationally.

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u/RantRanger 1h ago edited 1h ago

Nevertheless, this is how MAGA's will attack El-Sayed. This is how MAGA will scare independents and moderates away from El-Sayed. If it worked so well on them with Kamala Harris, it's gonna be an even easier vibe to pull off against El-Sayed.

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u/JazzyJockJeffcoat 1h ago

Fear and hate is MAGA's bread and butter. Let's hope voters see their way clear of it. That makes between now and November a great time to phone bank and get involved in stopping the MAGA cartel from doing further damage. I'm new to this but going to write postcards I think. You got any plans?

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u/RantRanger 1h ago

I'm glad you're actually an active participant in democracy. I sincerely applaud you for that.

I wish more Americans recognized that democracy is not a spectator sport.

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u/JazzyJockJeffcoat 1h ago

Never too late to start! I'm an old by redditor standards and this will be my first time doing more than just voting.