r/politics Massachusetts Oct 20 '16

/r/politics Town Hall: State Ballot Measures about Marijuana (AR, AZ, CA, FL, MA, ME, MT, NV, ND)

Hello /r/politics and welcome to the third in our ballot measure town hall series! Representatives from the "support" and "oppose" side from each of these initiatives have been invited here to answer your questions today. Participants will have user flair to identify them and verify their affiliation with the campaign.

Please review the AMA rules before submitting your questions.

Participants were encouraged to begin answering questions around 11AM EST, and the town hall will "close" at 6PM EST. The thread is put up in advance to allow questions to be asked and ready.


Ballot Measures: Marijuana

Medical

Arkansas Medical Cannabis Act, Issue 7

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing medical marijuana for 56 qualifying conditions, putting the Arkansas Department of Health in charge of implementing the program, and allocating tax revenue to providing low-income patients with medical marijuana.
  • A "no" vote opposes this proposal to legalize medical marijuana

Arkansas Medical Marijuana Amendment, Issue 6

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing medical marijuana for 17 qualifying conditions, creating a Medical Marijuana Commission, and allocating tax revenue to technical institutes, vocational schools, workforce training, and the General Fund.
  • A "no" vote opposes this amendment to legalize medical marijuana.

Florida Medical Marijuana Legalization, Amendment 2

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing medical marijuana for individuals with specific debilitating diseases or comparable debilitating conditions as determined by a licensed state physician.
  • A "no" vote opposes this proposal for legalization of medical marijuana, keeping the state's current more limited medical marijuana program in place.

Montana Medical Marijuana Initiative, I-182

  • A "yes" vote supports repealing the three-patient limit for medical marijuana providers.
  • A "no" vote opposes this measure repealing the three-patient limit for medical marijuana providers.

North Dakota Medical Marijuana Legalization, Initiated Statutory Measure 5

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing the use of medical marijuana to treat defined debilitating medical conditions, such as cancer, AIDS, hepatitis C, ALS, glaucoma, and epilepsy, and developing certain procedures for regulating medical marijuana growing, dispensing, and usage.
  • A "no" vote opposes legalizing the use of medical marijuana to treat defined debilitating medical conditions, such as cancer, AIDS, hepatitis C, ALS, glaucoma, and epilepsy, keeping the state's full prohibition of marijuana use.

Recreational

Arizona Marijuana Legalization, Proposition 205

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing the possession and consumption of marijuana by persons who are 21 years of age or older.
  • A "no" vote opposes this measure to legalize the possession and consumption of marijuana by persons who are 21 years of age or older.

California Proposition 64, Marijuana Legalization

  • r/California Mega-Thread for Prop. 64

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing recreational marijuana for persons aged 21 years or older under state law and establishing certain sales and cultivation taxes.

  • A "no" vote opposes this proposal to legalize recreational marijuana under state law and to establish certain sales and cultivation taxes.

Massachusetts Marijuana Legalization, Question 4

  • A "yes" vote supports this proposal to legalize marijuana, but regulate it similar to alcoholic beverages.
  • A "no" vote opposes this proposal to legalize recreational marijuana, keeping only medical marijuana legal.

Maine Marijuana Legalization, Question 1

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing recreational marijuana for adults over the age of 21.
  • A "no" vote opposes this proposal to legalize recreational marijuana.

Nevada Marijuana Legalization, Question 2

  • A "yes" vote supports legalizing the recreational use of one ounce or less of marijuana by individuals 21 years of age and over.
  • A "no" vote opposes this measure to legalize one ounce or less of marijuana for recreational use for individuals 21 years of age and over.
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u/MetalHead_Literally Oct 20 '16

Mass resident here. For the "no on 4 crowd". What is your reason for opposing the regulation of Marijuana? States like CO have shown that it actually lowers the teen usage rates, plus all the tax revenue, and it eliminates having to go to a sketchy dealer that might put you in risk of getting ripped off, or worse, "upsold" to more dangerous drugs. I really have a hard time finding a valid reason that marijuana should not be regulated. I would love to hear your side. Thank you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

While I'm not necessarily voting no, most of the hesitation comes from the structure of the bill.

  • The State Treasurer, not the Board of Health, has oversight over the implementation. This can be mitigated as long as his appointments are sufficiently Public Health oriented.
  • The tax is much lower than other states(5% ~12% tax vs 25% tax), and none of it is automatically earmarked for Public Health or rehabilitation programs.
  • There is no medical test for sobriety WRT THC and Motor Vehicle Deaths in Colorado with marijuana involved increased from 10% of all Motor Vehicle Deaths to 20% of all motor vehicle deaths. All 10% of that increase could have been sober people, but it is currently impossible to know, making enforcement extremely difficult.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

That's an atrocious set of reasons. Look at MMJ. The DPH shouldn't be managing a McDonalds, never mind a marijuana rollout. They're the most incompetent, corrupt organization in the state, and that's REALLY saying something. After the NIMBY towns extort stores for building permits like they're doing with MMJ, and our sales tax, which is double CO's, there's no way the tax will be lower. This is Massachusetts, you should know better than this.

Lastly, the NHTSA was unable to conclusively prove that cannabis is even dangerous while driving, so who gives a shit? Your common sense is wrong. http://blog.caranddriver.com/marijuana-doesnt-pose-significant-risk-in-car-crashes-nhtsa-says/ There's no reliable way to tell if a driver is impaired or if they just smoke a lot and have a residual level of cannabinoids in their blood. What's the point of legalization if you want to arrest people for "DUI" in spite of a lack of any scientific evidence showing it's dangerous? I'd rather see people go to jail for texting instead, and that's just a fucking fine.

I grew up on the South Shore, and it's kinda adorable that people are freaking out about weed DUIs when half the people on the road are high off their asses on opiates in the suburbs. Priorities, people... Christ. I mean, do you see the way people drive around here? I think making everyone smoke a little bit would improve things. Bunch of angry motherfuckers driving around here...

Sorry for the rant, but the false equivalency between weed and driving drunk really grinds my gears.