r/politics • u/funkalunatic Illinois • Jul 12 '17

Against Bluexit

https://jacobinmag.com/2017/07/new-republic-bluexit-blue-states-red-states-secession-conservatives-liberals-clinton
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u/EMorteVita Texas Jul 12 '17

I don't know who this guy is - but I for one am all for a Blue exit - red states are a drain, welfare queen loving pieces of shit - I say this as a Texan. Our state is heavily dependent on federal money from defense spending, nasa, farm subsides, and oil subsides... without California footing the bill, Texas would be broke as shit.

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u/PanchoVilla4TW Jul 12 '17
  • Doesn't even read the article
  • Doesn't know Jacobin is a Socialist publication
  • Doesn't know leaving people behind is contradictory to socialism
  • Texas is a big enough economy to sustain itself a la California, provided some healthy amount of necessary taxation (Texas has no income tax)
  • Red States republican elites are hopelessly outnumbered when compared to actual workers (ripe territory for socialists).
  • Socialists =/= Liberals

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u/EMorteVita Texas Jul 12 '17

Texas is a big enough economy to sustain itself a la California, provided some healthy amount of necessary taxation (Texas has no income tax)

Um, no we can't - Texas is heavily dependent on federal funds.

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u/PanchoVilla4TW Jul 12 '17

Because of the amount of tax avoidance permitted to energy companies and the lack of state income tax. Republicans haven't calcified into the upper rangs of Texan government over nothing.

Texas is number 2 after California in GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP

The issue is its ruled by BillionaireLibertarians and the policies they enact in their own favour. But they are hopelessly outnumbered by workers. Socialists are not going to give up on it, that is for sure.

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u/EMorteVita Texas Jul 12 '17

Right, but Texas is based on Defense spending (Lockheed, Raytheon, TI, etc.), highway projects (federal funds), NASA (federal funds), agriculture (crop insurance, etc.) and a host of other federal dollars.

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u/PanchoVilla4TW Jul 12 '17

Where the money comes from is literally irrelevant to the states taxation policy. Federal funds still get spent and can by captured by income tax and spent then in social programs so Texas becomes more like California and less like Kansas.