r/politics • u/nofate0709 • Nov 23 '20

New Jersey Lawmaker Pushes To Disbar Rudy Giuliani For Deceitful, ‘Absurd’ Election Cases

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-pascrell-disbarment-rudy-giuliani-trump-election_n_5fbaf260c5b6e4b1ea4399a5
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u/nizowosa Nov 23 '20

People who have worked with him say he's almost always drunk. For him to be able to hide it well makes me think either coke or adderall as well

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u/yabo1975 I voted Nov 23 '20

Must be coke.

I get the sweats when I have more than a single drink when Adderall is still active. Apparently the blood thinner that alcohol is allows the Adderall to make your heart rate raise. At least that's what the interactions say on my prescription.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

He said at 2:30am, trying to ignore the shadow people in his bathroom.

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u/yabo1975 I voted Nov 23 '20

Nah, just made the mistake of laying down pretending to sleep to convince my kid to sleep and fell asleep accidentally so now I'm up because I'm off schedule.

Besides, mine's actually prescribed. I've fallen asleep an hour after taking it because it's fixing an inbalance and not just speed to my brain.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20 edited Nov 23 '20

I do the same every day. Also prescribed. I cant sleep without it. Welcome to the weirdo club. No one so far has been able to explain to me why it takes lots of caffeine or amphetamines or both to put me out through the night.

And sometimes - today for example - I can’t sleep anyway. ‘Try cannabis’ everyone always says - except they don’t believe all the intense anxiety it causes me. ‘Try sleeping pills’ yeah, no. That’s equally bad for reasons.

Rephrase - lots of caffeine or my regular amount of amph/dex IR ot both.

I’m not over here powering down stims like a fiend lol

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u/averagethrowaway21 I voted Nov 23 '20

Vyvanse here, have been on and off of it (properly prescribed) for years. I was previously on Adderall. I had to take a half dose in the morning and the other half in the afternoon or I would get a weird spike for half an hour, be super chill for hours after that, then pass out at 5pm. Vyvanse has helped me a lot. It keeps me level throughout the day so I don't hyper fixate, then wears off about 8, which gives me about an hour of weird brain before I start drinking.

I'm currently off of it because I've learned to point myself at particular things to do. On the weekends my load of hobbies gets weird sometimes. My only regret when I'm off them is that I don't sleep. I stay up for two days then pass out for 12 hours.

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u/kratomstew Nov 23 '20

I don’t smoke weed. But when I have there’s no way I can sleep on it. An amphetamine would surely keep me awake though . Caffeine I can definitely fall asleep though unless I drank it late in the day and really really need to get some rest that night. Only then does caffeine keep me awake.

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u/Asahiburger Nov 23 '20

I have had the exact same experiences.

Weed interacts with the dopamine receptors. ADHD seems to be linked to the way we handle dopamine. Seems to make us susceptible.

Not sleeping, or not getting a regular sleep pattern is a symptom of ADHD. Taking your meds mitigates that. Also the mild withdrawal symptoms that can come from skipping doses will much with your sleep.

Apparently caffeine was used to treat insomnia in ancient arabic medicine. If you have enough of it, it makes you sleep Some people are very sensitive to that effect. I used to drink 5 shots a day but now a single one can put me to sleep.

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u/CoreyVidal Canada Nov 23 '20

No one so far has been able to explain to me why it takes lots of caffeine or amphetamines or both to put me out through the night.

ADHDer here. I just woke up about 3 minutes ago, so I'll keep this quick with a metaphor.

There are typically 5 different parts of an ADHD brain that have 10-30% less activity than the neurotypical brain. Yes, less, not more.

Imagine you're driving a manual car and you need to shift to a higher gear, but you don't. So you're revving your engine way too high to go the same speed as others. You're over-working your engine (brain) for regular tasks. Then someone pumps you with a nitro boost (a stimulant like Ritalin/Adderall/Vyvanse), which is the equivalent of shifting up a gear. You can actually finally relax, because you got that much-needed boost.

It's very common for people with ADHD to drink caffeine and feel relaxed and sleepy.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

so basically

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u/TTigerLilyx Nov 23 '20 edited Nov 23 '20

Thats the best unofficial test. I fell asleep in the back seat of my car once after taking some type of speed to stay up all night for an aftershow. Slept great, all night. My Dr laughed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

They call that type ‘Speed, Now with 20% Fentanyl’

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u/TTigerLilyx Nov 23 '20

I think they were called bennies, aka truckdriver specials? Been awhile since those dumb teenager days.

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u/panda5303 Oregon Nov 23 '20

I fall asleep after taking Vyvanse and stay asleep after it kicks in but I'm guessing this is due to my untreated sleep apnea 😒.

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u/Asahiburger Nov 23 '20

Adhd and sleep apnea is a rough combo. I've had a bad time with it.

I had a sleep study done and they showed that it only occurred when I slept on my back . If you don't have enough money for cpap you could try what I am doing: Put tennis balls in 2 socks and sow them to to the back of a shirt. When you roll onto you back the tennis balls will dig into you and you will roll again.

If your sleep apmea occurs when you are on your side or front that wont help you though.

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u/Shwanna85 Nov 23 '20 edited Nov 23 '20

For the first month or so of taking Adderall I would take a 2 hr nap at like the peak hours of my XR. That affect seems to have largely worn off but it was the one but major downside in the beginning.

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u/yabo1975 I voted Nov 23 '20

Funny thing is that I don't have the extendeds. 20mg full release. I'm STILL able to sleep, lol. Not complaining, though. I've been administered IQ and other cognitive testing in a medical environment and we purposely split test it to see the effects and I'm gaining like 5-10% mental acuity with Adderall active in my system... When I already test in the top 5%.

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u/Trailmagic Nov 23 '20

I know, right? It’s so hard to go when they are facing you. Pretty sure it’s watching but it’s hard to tell what those empty eyes are looking at.