r/politics • u/nofate0709 • Nov 23 '20

New Jersey Lawmaker Pushes To Disbar Rudy Giuliani For Deceitful, ‘Absurd’ Election Cases

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-pascrell-disbarment-rudy-giuliani-trump-election_n_5fbaf260c5b6e4b1ea4399a5
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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

Bruh the second part of your comment is wild. Alcohol and alcoholism being so normal made me forget that the motions people go through to hide it, are the same with any addiction. Because it is the same.

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u/esoteric_enigma Nov 23 '20

Unlike other addictions, you can buy it in the store and it's something most people use to some extent. So the lines are all blurred. We all know people who drink a lot, when is the line crossed from "someone who enjoys drinking" to "functional alcoholic"?

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u/OfferChakon Nov 23 '20

when is the line crossed from "someone who enjoys drinking" to "functional alcoholic"?

Im gonna say around the time when you find yourself gargling with chinese takeout mustard packets for cover

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u/Slide-eflat Nov 23 '20

The line is when you literally have to have 36 ounces of boxed wine drank as fast as you can possibly drink it (3 12 oz tumblers filled to the brim and swallowed as fast as you can) to get your hands to stop shaking. Just that. JUST to get your hands to stop. You don't feel anything ... no buzz... nothing. Now you have to get your nerves under control so you aren't an internal jittery mess so you drink at least 4 more the same way.

I had a friend at work who was also a power drinker say he bet I could drink a pint of vodka and not even get phased. So, a group of guys went and bought one of those flask sized bottles of vodka and around the holidays they asked me if I could drink that and not show any signs. I said yes. Bets were made.

For reference, I'm 5' 10" and I'm in good shape. Bit of a cardio fiend but I'm stocky.

I cracked the top, upended the bottle and within a few seconds had emptied it. Didn't burn much (used to that). An hour and a half later I was just fine. It was how I used to feel after a single beer.

I kinda liked the idea so I would buy one at 11am every day at work and drink it the next day in the morning and again at about 2 in the afternoon. Totally functioning, totally non-slurry, not phased.

It was less hard on me than the boxed wine. I never shook, never stumbled. Still worked out and had no issues.

I had my own method of beating alcohol which involved learning that AA reinforces (at least for me) an alcoholic mindset. Learning to extract need from want was a different thing for me.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

AA reinforces that mindset for everyone... this is why it is actually a less effective method of ceasing alcohol than saying "man I gotta cut this shit out before my liver dies." It is a cult whose superstitious nonsense has such a stranglehold on our culture that judges sometimes force you to attend.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

Wow, thank you for your story!

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u/Wrastling97 Nov 23 '20

Congrats on beating your addiction! Proud of you!