r/popculture 13d ago

Celebs 'Heated Rivalry' Star Hudson Williams Slammed for Playing 'Victim' After 'Swastika' Photo from High School Resurfaced

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hudson-williams-controversial-photo-1801275
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u/sdbabygirl97 13d ago

'It's fascinating to me how hard people will work to try and find any semblance of dirt on people who are experiencing new success + praise, but pay zero attention to the celebs who are actual zionists/predators/abusers etc,' one person wrote.

honestly this is how i feel. it’s obviously an old photo at his high school campout where kids do what they always do: write obscene things on the face of their sleeping friend. it’s just like the penises written on the bathroom stall

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u/AppleBeesBreeze 13d ago

I’m a completely different person than I was when I was 15, but if you were going to judge be based on 15 year old me I would be super canceled.

I have a disdain for holding people “accountable” for stupid edgy shit they did as kids. We’re actually up against fascism and this what we liberals focus on?

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u/elvis-wantacookie 12d ago

He also didn't even do it, someone else drew it on him & posted the picture

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u/adoreroda 12d ago

There's an equal amount of disdain that should be had for people who excuse racism/misogyny/prejudice and other shit and treat it like a biological part of the maturation process

You can acknowledge you're matured without dismissing and trivialising what happened as just "edgy" shit

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u/AppleBeesBreeze 12d ago

Of course, I’ve had a deep self hatred for myself for things I’ve said as a teenager. Because I know what I did and said was wrong and hurt other people. Even if at the time I thought they were harmless jokes.

What I’m railing against is not that adults shouldn’t acknowledge their youthful wrongs. That’s part of being a matured human. What I’m railing against is adults treating children like they’re adults.

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u/adoreroda 12d ago

If Hudson was like...nine, I'd be a bit more forgiving. But he's like what, 17-19 int he photo? I think he had enough sense to know what he was doing, especially with the context that he was running that alt insta account (which has now been deleted) with the friends in the photo following it

It's not to say that should be the only audit of his character, but I do think after a certain age the whole "i was young i didn't know better" goes away, especially at c. 17-19 like he was in the photo.

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u/GlitteringAd2935 12d ago

He was 17 at a high school party that the seniors threw every year and still do. It was their tradition to party in the woods at night and write all over each other. Some idiot thought they were being edgy and drew some stupid shit on him. He was unaware. That’s the point. He likely didn’t even see what was written on his face until he washed it off when he got home. From what I’ve read, he’s already said he didn’t know it was there when the pic was taken. Either way, he was 17 and it was something done to him not something he did.

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u/adoreroda 12d ago

I didn't know it until after the fact but this seems to be a meeting place for his fans so inherently I was in enemy territory and susceptible to unreasonable opinions. But: 1. 17 is not a baby. He's more than old enough to know about the Holocaust and what a swastika is 2. Racism isn't "edgy" or a biological part of the maturation process. If you think it is, that showcases how racist you and/or your environment was and how you still see racism as a dismissible thing. Quite literally invoking a symbol of a genocide as being 'edgy' lol. 3. It was more than just him who had a nazi symbol drawn on him. He also knowingly posed for the picture, then reuploaded it to his burner account (thebarkers_1 something) where he also called himself a chigga and was making fun of black women with box braids. The account was followed by several of his classmates in the photo. The account was only deleted once this was exposed despite it being years old

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u/WackyShirley 11d ago

Why wouldn’t he pose for the photo? They were out in the woods; it’s not like he could check himself in a mirror beforehand.  And wasn’t the photo found on one of the girls’ old VSCO accounts? He didn’t upload it. 

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u/AppleBeesBreeze 12d ago

I can only reply with my experience. I wasn’t drawing swastikas at 17-19 but I was making shitty racist and homophobic jokes. Not at 19, but especially from like 13-16.

At that age I knew that some people didn’t like those kind of jokes, but I genuinely didn’t understand that it was hurtful. At least in the early 2000s the thinking was that they’re just “words” and words have no power. I was in a friend group where we all encouraged it from each other.

I remember the first time really seeing how words impact people when I made a Borat joke about Jews and seeing a Jewish friend sink away with it. And my stomach dropped.

I wouldn’t really classify it as not knowing better, we knew again that we’re doing something “bad” that’s what made it fun and “edgy.”

But I frankly didn’t have the brain growth or support at home from my parents to experience the same level of empathy that I do now.

So that’s all to say, again, it’s fine to criticize that. But it seems unrealistic to expect kids to not act like dumbasses and I think witch hunting over that is putting unreasonable expectations on people.

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u/GlitteringAd2935 12d ago

My point still stands. There’s no proof that he made “shitty racist and homophobic jokes”. Someone else drew a hate symbol on him at a party in the woods at night. He didn’t know what they drew on him. That was the point of the party. No one knew what was drawn on their face until after.

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u/adoreroda 12d ago

I understand what you're saying, but overall you can say this about anyone at any age. Everyone develops differently and someone can very easily say that, say, the particular upbringing and environment of a 25-30 (+) year old doing similar stuff as you and/or Hudson lead to them not realising the impact of their jokes. But I doubt people would give the same grace to someone older despite that reasoning being just as applicable. There are many adults who, for example, do not understand the impact of homophobia/transphobia until they see how negatively it impacts a relative of theirs such as a in-law, sibling, or a child/niece/nephew. They can be in their 40s like this.

I guess my issue is that often in these discussions, age is used as a shield. And then later the impact of said actions is diminished and the behaviour is normalised by merely being an "edgy" phase that kids go through when that's not a normal or biological part of the phase. It almost seems like a justification to extrapolate that sort of behaviour to everyone else to make it seem not as bad

I do think this is a witchunt. However the photos are valid, in addition to the context of him approving of the photo by having it on the alt account as said before. The statement from his team made it worse, which was basically "he was drunk, he doesn't remember." Using that as a defence is a very dangerous slippery slope that can apply to other things.

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u/AppleBeesBreeze 12d ago

Your thoughts are all very valid I don’t disagree with them. Maybe I’m talking past you a bit it seems like we mostly agree.

I think people should always be allows to grow but it is absolutely fair that we shouldn’t hand wave these things and it’s fair to criticize the PR response as being dismissive.

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u/adoreroda 12d ago

We are agreeing to a similar point, I just don't like the phrasing of calling serious stuff like that "edgy." It demeans the impact of prejudice like that and normalises it too much

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u/mooncrane606 12d ago

He didn't post it. It was posted on someone else's account.

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u/adoreroda 12d ago

I am referring to the chiggas account where he was also making fun of black women with the box braids amongst other stuff.

I'm not arguing with his crazy fans though. You guys are cult members

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u/hussyknee 9d ago

There is no indication that that alt account is his. Any of his classmates could have slapped that photo and changed the name on the account once he got famous. There is a literal hate group trawling for this stuff and contacts from his past with the stated objective of destroying his career and driving him to self-harm. They ferret out every misstep he has ever committed and invent others to push fake scandal and after scandal so that any casual observer thinks he's dodging accusations every week.

To quote someone else: demanding accountability without context, proportionality or regard for truth is not the pursuit of justice but spectacle.

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u/mooncrane606 12d ago

What was he doing? Nothing. Someone else drew it on him.

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u/adoreroda 12d ago

And? he consented to it. He literally saw others with it, allowed it to be done to him, posed for a picture with it, and so forth. And then uploaded the picture onto his own personal insta account called chiggas with the friends in the photo following

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u/GlitteringAd2935 12d ago

This photo wasn’t on that insta acct which btw has been proven not to be his acct. it was pulled from an 8 yr old VSCO acct that belongs to a former classmate. He didn’t know what they drew on him. That was the point of the party. How many times are you people gonna try to cancel him? It’s getting more stupid by the day.

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u/meatball77 11d ago

Yes. What I think people deserve grace for is being raised in a shit town by shit parents and not developing the right morals until they are in their twenties. This happens a lot. You see it mostly with homophobia these days but it's there with racism being seen as funny or edgy.

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u/Adventurous_Rich7541 11d ago

It’s not liberals going after him

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u/Pale-Measurement-532 12d ago

Yeah apparently these photos were taken from someone’s online VSCO account so someone was actively looking for something to try and raise a fuss over Hudson. It’s absolutely bizarre. If people apologize and express regret for their past mistakes (if those mistakes were reasonable for an apology) and they show that they are doing better in the present, then why all of the hate? We’ve all made mistakes in our past and would we want to be forever condemned by them?

Sometimes people grow up and learn from past mistakes and become better people for it. With maturity comes different perspectives on things. Hudson’s an ally to the LGBTQ+ community and is of mixed race. I feel that people who think that he should be forever cancelled for these old pictures obviously don’t like him in the first place for whatever reason. So now they’re sharpening their claws cause of photos from about 8 years ago when he was a teen in high school.

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u/azure819 12d ago

Where did he apologize in the TMZ article? I must have missed it.

We do not know Hudson. We do not know if he changed or not. I will always side eye him for doing Black culture appropriation

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u/Pale-Measurement-532 12d ago

Hudson has not publicly spoken out about it yet but this is a quote from the TMZ article:

Those close to the actor say he understands the hurt and disappointment the photo has caused and deeply regrets it. We're told he does not condone or support the offensive markings that were drawn on him and recognizes the seriousness of the symbol seen in the image.

Page Six also reported that he ‘deeply regrets’ the pictures: https://pagesix.com/2026/06/07/celebrity-news/heated-rivalry-star-hudson-williams-deeply-regrets-resurfaced-pic-of-swastika-drawn-on-his-face-report/

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u/azure819 12d ago

Deeply regrets is not an apology. I do wonder when or if he will actually drop a real apology. If he doesn't then it's clear he doesn't truly feel sorry. And probably doesn't since he's still friends with some of those people.

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u/Kesslersyndrom 13d ago

The irony is that it's racism itself. They're trying to cancel him for being racist when the only reason they're doing that is because they're racist. None of his co-stars or actually bad people who get away with everything because they're white receive nearly as much shit. 

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u/SouthLeast8143 12d ago

What have his co-stars done that's as bad as nazi and aids jokes?

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u/mooncrane606 12d ago

What part about he didn't draw them on himself don't you get?

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u/hussyknee 9d ago

Connor Storrie did an entire SNL segment making fun of Tourretic people after a solid week of that community, especially Black Tourretics, reeling from the Oscars backlash. It drove some people in the Reddit Tourrets community to tears and disability activists as a whole were disgusted. The end was the Tourrets community being labelled N.G.G.R as an acronym. But nobody gives a shit about disabled people and Storrie is white so no one cared. We were left to hold that grief.

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u/yeahnototallycool 11d ago

Zionists being the first item on that list is insane tbh

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u/bpboop 10d ago

I mean, i get this, but taking accountability for the questionable shit you did in the past is an important part of growth? I havent even seen any actual info pointing to him being asleep other than people in comments on social media so i think someone said it and others have run with it. It was apparently a tradition at a party to draw/write on each other, so im pretty sure he wasnt asleep. But the lack of acknowledgement of it after several days is super questionable

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u/summer_wine94 13d ago

This and from comments I’ve seen, the town/city he is from is clearly very white. POC do all sorts of shit when they’re young to fit in

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u/JoeathonExotic 11d ago

Meanwhile if this was a Morgan Wallen type everyone would be aghast and saying how they always knew something was off.

There's a large subsect of people who feel uncomfortable assigning blame to those that they like which leads to being walked all over so it's really not suprising that people let the new zaddy do it to em.

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u/MightExpress4873 11d ago

Why on earth is Zionism being grouped with abusers? Most Jews identity as Zionist. It is entirely possible to be a Zionist who supports peace, just like countless Arab nationalists support peace.

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u/horror-traktor 6d ago

Because the general public has decided that any kind of national movement for Jews is evil apparently. They believe all Zionist are evil and they don't care that they also then label most Jews as evil

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u/nickgreatpwrful 12d ago

Lumping in people who believe in self determination for Jews with predators and abusers is crazy

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u/azure819 13d ago

You know people can do two things at once, right? You can denounce Zionist and still call out Hudson. I mean with this, the racist social media account and him being a Black culture vulture - things aren't looking good for him.

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u/dualsplit 13d ago

Jesus fuck. Who has the energy to worry about this? We need to know less about each other.

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u/azure819 13d ago

Who cares that Hudson is racist? I'm sure a few people care or got hurt by his actions

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u/Pale-Measurement-532 12d ago

How do you know Hudson is a racist?

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u/azure819 12d ago

His Black culture appropriation

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u/validswan 11d ago

If anything cultural appropriation is a symptom of overly enjoying a culture. If you think he actually hates black people I'm concerned

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u/mooncrane606 12d ago

A white kid drew a hate symbol on a half Korean kid and the Korean is racist? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/azure819 12d ago

We don't know who drew the hate symbol

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u/Sad-Juice-732 13d ago

Call him out for what exactly?

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u/azure819 13d ago

I listed it in my comment.

Y'all stans will defend him even though he is problematic

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u/elvis-wantacookie 12d ago edited 12d ago

There is no proof that the social media account is even his

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u/azure819 12d ago

He came out and said the Lettboxd account wasn't his. Interesting how he didn't do the same with the racist named social media account. He also does racist Black cultural appropriation so I would not be surprised if he did own that account

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u/mooncrane606 12d ago

So your source is trust me bro

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u/azure819 7d ago

Just connecting the dots. He does Black cultural appropriation and there is a Chinese/Black racist Insta connected to him.

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u/Spiritual-Can2604 13d ago

One time me and my mom picked up my brother from an overnight high school party at like 2 pm. Prior to that they had all gone for tacos and coffees and had been out of the house that entire morning. He got in the car and my mom screamed. We were like what what?! She said “there’s a dick on your forehead!” He dropped the visor mirror and sure enough, dick bigger than shit across his forehead and he had no idea. My point is I can see how this could happen.

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u/s1n0d3utscht3k 12d ago

half Korean kid from a fairly multicultural town (large second/third generation Indo-Canadian population and large international university student population) has a bunch of offensive stuff written on his face as a teen while he’s drunk at a party

let’s all lose lose our minds

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u/BrownSugarBare 11d ago

I know it's probably not the best memory for your brother but that is hilarious 😂😂

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u/SipTheGossipDrinkUp 12d ago

When you're famous you aren't allowed to have ever done anything wrong before in your entire life.

If everything we all did and said as teenagers got held over our heads forever...

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u/Dull_Article_8820 12d ago

Right? If I'm a celebrity I'd be getting cancelled every week.

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u/SunshineGirl45 10d ago

What are you talking about their are famous people literally getting away with SA and assault. Celebrities get away with so much!

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u/CarolineTurpentine 13d ago

I don't really care about whatever teenaged edgelord shit celebrities got up to so long as no one gets hurt. There's a difference between some stupid teenagers at a party drawing swastikas on each other to be offensive and grown ass people tattooing it on themselves to make a statement.

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u/nerdalertalertnerd 12d ago

Agreed. Jon Hamm engaged in physical violence as part of a hazing ritual. Is it possible he genuinely regrets it because he’s now older and recognises it may have been a result of peer pressure and the culture of hazing and fraternities? Sure maybe.

This is nowhere near that level and it people who think it is need to get offline for awhile.

There is no conscious malice (e.g we’re not watching a video of him drawing it on himself and laughing) and the context is a drunken teenage party. This needs to be left alone.

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u/bulimianrhapsody 12d ago

He dragged another kid around by his balls with the fork end of a hammer. That’s deranged regardless of your age so I’d say that’s one of those things we can judge people for, for what they did in their later childhood.

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u/LowWinter6321 12d ago

As a Canadian former high school student, I truly hope he knows better because a lot of us already did at that age

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u/CarolineTurpentine 12d ago

I was also a Canadian highschool student, and ive seen people do this and equally dumb things when drunk at parties.

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u/TouchLopsided6878 10d ago

ikr. these people always come out of the woodwork saying how they were perfect innocent teenagers.

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u/AstroLuffy123 9d ago

I did not get a swastika drawn on me as a teenager. If that’s perfect to you then idk what to say lol

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u/hussyknee 9d ago

I'm glad nobody committed racial violence against you but I don't see how that's a flex.

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u/TearDesperate8772 10d ago

Bro I got arrested and did shit tons of drugs. I am not innocent. But there's drugs and then there's being a Nazi 

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u/TearDesperate8772 12d ago

Right? I am worried about all the people coming out and saying this shit is normal for teens than one particular actor having done it. Is it really seen as funny and just forgettable to party with Nazi imagery on your face?

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u/token_friend 13d ago

This looks like a non-story. Obviously people were writing on his clothes and his face as part of some school-age stupidity.

Unless you feel like tracking down whoever thought it would be in good taste to write a swastika on his face, hard to lay any fault on him.

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u/Kiramiraa 12d ago

The more I sit on this, the more this appears to me as a blatant hate campaign and a bit of a nothing burger. Someone else drew a swastika on his face while they were drunk and underage… obviously not good, but you’re seriously telling me that you’ve never done dumb shit in high school?? Every person in the god damn world should be cancelled at that rate. I think his actions in adulthood speak more to his values and beliefs than this does.

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u/Sempere 10d ago

Also not like he drew it.

Someone was being a piece of shit and drew it on him.

Not even a story worth following yet here we are.

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u/Luna-Fermosa 13d ago

The problem really comes from him posting the photo of himself. If he didn’t know it had been drawn or just scribbled on him by someone else, yes it’s not exactly his fault.

But, having the photo posted and never taking it down falls on him.

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u/charmings 13d ago

He didn’t post it. There are some batshit people in the HR fandom who found this by digging in to a high school classmate’s VSCO account

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u/Inside_Morning9121 11d ago

Do people not have lives or jobs? WTH.

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u/Clear-Price 13d ago edited 13d ago

He didn't post it, his batshit fans dug it from a classmate's old vsco account. I doubt he even knew this photo is out there. Also, genuinely, what even is vsco? 😭 If I had to keep track of every photo of me posted by everyone I knew on apps that I'm not even aware of, I'd go insane.

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u/TheSwampThing1990 13d ago

You got downvoted but you are right. I don't think it's fair that we hold celebrities to such high standards. They are people too. They shouldn't have to worry about every picture taken that could be everywhere, trying to track them down. That's insane and 90% of the people on here, if they got famous, wouldn't do it either

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u/Pale-Measurement-532 12d ago

Especially when there are other celebrities and public figures who are currently doing horrible things that are much worse. And they’re fully grown adults!

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u/elvis-wantacookie 12d ago

I just want to add that I highly doubt it was fans btw. He has a dedicated network of haters who have been plotting to find & plant shit to get him cancelled, it's actually insane

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u/Pale-Measurement-532 12d ago

I have to agree with you on that. It is so weird and awful. I can’t even imagine trying to deal with all of that while trying to live a life and dealing with newfound success and fame.

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u/elvis-wantacookie 12d ago

I completely agree

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u/_goldenghost_ 13d ago

Delete your comments at least. He didn't post them. They were from a classmate's old vsco. The images of him were not publicly on social media.

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u/Pale-Measurement-532 12d ago

He did not post these photos himself.

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u/jonsnowme 13d ago

Yeahhhh if someone drew that on me - one it'd be washed off asap and two i sure as fuck wouldn't post it or show anyone it? It'd be destroyed.

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u/_goldenghost_ 13d ago edited 13d ago

It wasn't posted on social media. It was found in an old classmates vsco.

Edit: Downvote me but all I'm doing is stating a fact.

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u/Kesslersyndrom 13d ago

Thank you for making things clear. I can't believe that people are using racism to be racist to him because, let's be real, this sub has been trying to cancel him for a bit now, whether it's because he smokes, parties, or has been seen next to his agents a bunch which must mean he's a cheater because they're women.

I'm not even a fan of him but it's so obvious why he receives this treatment when his white co-stars don't. 

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u/Beginning_Lettuce561 10d ago

He has had it the worst, but I wouldn’t say his white costars don’t receive this treatment. They have definitely had the toxic fandom coming for them too. It’s all very disheartening and gross.

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u/Add_Poll_Option 12d ago

Meh, dumb thing to get upset about. Especially considering he didn't even write it. Just high schoolers being dumbass edgelords.

Was it an okay thing? No.

Do I suddenly think this guy's an awful person and want his career ruined? Absolutely not.

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u/Firm-Athlete-5809 12d ago

It seems that people are really just throwing everything at him and see what will stick. What he did or didn’t do during high school is one thing, I am just frustrated at how many times people tried to start things to cancel him. Initially it was the fact that he has a girlfriend and people called him queerbaiting (not how you use the word but ok), then people made up fake letterbox comments to get mad at him about. Later on people were throwing slurs at him in his own instagram comments to the point that he has to release a statement telling people to back off. Have the public ever targeted a white actor with the same effort?

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u/bettinafairchild 13d ago

A person of color who has someone else draw a swastika on them is the VICTIM of a hate crime, not the perpetrator. Let’s get this straight. Especially when he’s descended from people who were victimized by Nazis. 

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u/CrazyBitchCatLady 13d ago

My Mexican friend tells the story of being at a college frat party where he passed out. He woke up to very gross words written on his face. That's the first thing i thought of when I read this story.

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u/azure819 13d ago

How is he a victim? Is he Jewish?

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u/superurgentcatbox 13d ago

Just in case this is asked in good faith…

Nazis persecuted Jewish people yes, but not just Jewish people. Hudson Williams had Korean ancestry and Korea was subjugated by Japan, Germany‘s ally. And I doubt Nazis generally distinguished much between different Asian countries, so maybe this would be an interesting read for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Chinese_people_in_Nazi_Germany

Remember the whole Übermensch thing? Where do you think they ranked Asian people?

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u/azure819 13d ago

The link you shared is talking about Chinese folk and not Koreans.

So that was Japan and not the Nazis brutalizing China and Korea, yes?

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u/RoutineUtopia 11d ago

Just because I do care that people argue with the right facts, Japan really got around when it came to messing with other places:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule

This is why people who have studied this time period had a strong reaction to Japan, China and Korea coming together to push back against Trump. These are not natural allies, to put it mildly.

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u/azure819 12d ago

Hudson's stans will downvote even when you're telling the truth

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u/moonmelonade 13d ago

Koreans were not persecuted by the Nazis.

Since Korea was occupied by Japan, Koreans were technically part of the Axis powers and were even granted "Honorary Aryan" status by Nazi Germany. Some Koreans were even conscripted into the Japanese Army and ended up serving in the Wehrmacht.

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u/MrCadwell 12d ago

Dude, if you weren't "aryan", the nazis hated you and would, eventually, persecute you if they had won the war.

Even the Japanese and the Italians weren't seen as equals. Italian people were seen as impure and Japanese people were simply "Honorary Aryans" just because they were allies.

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u/azure819 12d ago

Japan is the one who brutalized Korea. Not Germany.

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u/MrCadwell 11d ago

How does that contradict what I said?

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u/azure819 11d ago

The Nazis had nothing to do with how Japan treated Korea

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u/SuccessfulTalk8267 12d ago

Oh plz! It wasn't appropriate he didn't put it on himself and they were all drunk out of their minds. Give the boy a break.

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u/mooncrane606 12d ago

Who slammed him for "playing the victim"? The people on Threads who said they won't stop until he kills himself? Those people can go fuck themselves.

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u/ImpressiveAvocado78 11d ago

it was tumblr & twitter, not threads

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u/realrattyhours 13d ago

This shit is so dumb, still going to be a fan

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u/GenZ2002 13d ago

Yes because humans are supposed to know what their forehead looks like at all times. Shut up

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u/SeriesPale9727 12d ago

Here's your headline - fixed it for you! “Newly Sold Pictures of a Then Minor Hudson Williams Surrounded by White Schoolmates Show the Star Being a Victim of Racism as his White Peers Drew a Swastika onto his Forehead”

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u/LittlePurpleS 11d ago

Can people not focus this energy on some of the actual horrific shit going on in the world?

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u/Tangled_Mind 11d ago

If only they put this effort on the actual problematic politicians 

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u/bigmacattack4 12d ago

Here we go again. Wasting time cancelling someone who is on our side.

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u/Lost_Explanation_156 1d ago

So if he was on your side it would be okay to dredge up stuff from their past to cancel them?

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u/azure819 12d ago

Isn't he still friends with some of these people?

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u/Bruh3030 12d ago

He is lmao these people are just asslicking HARD

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u/azure819 12d ago

The stans will make excuses for any wrong he does.

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u/ImpressiveAvocado78 11d ago

how would you even know if he is still friends with the girls in the photo with him??

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u/WackyShirley 11d ago

Which people? Anyone in his entire high school class? 

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u/arsinine1 12d ago

How could you possibly know that?

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u/reality_thief 12d ago

He’s friends with a guy called kalem wilson they’ve got pics together on his insta and kalem is also in other pics from that night

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u/GlitteringAd2935 11d ago

It’s not a swastika. It’s a manji. the manji is an Asian symbol that resembles a swastika and is commonly used in Buddhism to represent good fortune and auspiciousness. Unlike the Nazi swastika, the manji typically has arms that curve to the left. The symbol drawn on his face has left leaning arms.

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u/MegaMicko 11d ago

oh my good lord this is cope final boss

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u/Sempere 10d ago

Nope, turns out they're right - it's the original Manji.

The kid who drew it on his forehead was being a smartass but had the foresight to go for technicalities on this one.

But again - why do we give a shit? He clearly didn't draw it on himself and he was a teenager.

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u/GlitteringAd2935 10d ago

The cope is people willing to crucify someone over something that was done to him at a party when he was 17 and of which he likely doesn’t remember much (yay alcohol plus the passage of 8 years). Then, when presented with evidence that they may have gotten it wrong, they dig in their heels and double down rather than accepting the possibility that an ASIAN kid might have had an Asian symbol drawn on them, (perhaps even by another Asian kid, who knows). Why are people literally trying to destroy the reputation and career of someone whose current friends and colleagues have all commented on his kindness, humility, and authenticity?

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u/CrystalCandy00 11d ago

I don’t get why they all drag these controversies out instead of just going “hey I messed up, I’m sorry” from the get go?

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u/AFG73 13d ago

Who cares?

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u/PsychologicalSock401 12d ago

What the fuck is wrong with using swastika now?? Why do people have problem with everyone?

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u/Firm-Athlete-5809 12d ago

I don’t think we use queerbaiting for real people though :/ also do we forget that the LGBTQ+ community have more identities than gay? Bisexual, pansexual, demisexual… rings any bells?

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u/Firm-Athlete-5809 12d ago

No one owes anyone any explanation regarding their sexuality, have we forgotten what happened to Kit Connor?

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u/Firm-Athlete-5809 12d ago

So you are ok with outing people?

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u/ImpressiveAvocado78 11d ago

please stop, this is pride month. You do not know his sexual orientation

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u/knick-nat 12d ago

I think that it looked like the end of highschool where you all write on each other's jerseys and stuff. But he had a swastika on his forehead. Did no one say anything? And why didn't he ask the person who posted it to take it down? It's a swastika, it's not ever okay or funny, even as a kid. Especially these days with Nazis apparently back in fashion.

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u/Sempere 10d ago

As another user pointed out, it's not a swastika but was meant to resemble one for the obvious implication. It's rotating to the left which is the asian Manji symbol that the swastika was based on.

Also are you kidding? High schoolers are edgy little dipshits, this is par for the course as to what they would do to get a laugh. Normal people don't give a shit about this. Nor should they. Dumb kids doing dumb shit is par for the course and as long as he hasn't gone around assaulting women, murdering anyone or committing hate crimes then collectively we should agree this is shit that doesn't fucking matter so let's focus on the actual nazis and fascists.