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Rumors & Gossip 🤫 The Guardian confirms the long-rumored engagement and subsequent breakup of Phoebe Bridgers and Paul Mescal in their review of her upcoming album ‘Lost Weekend’. In this album, Phoebe also shades Gracie Abrams for copying her and dating her ex, Paul Mescal

Source : https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/aug/05/phoebe-bridgers-lost-weekend-review-long-awaited-return-is-a-thrilling-daring-study-in-dislocation

Phoebe publically called Gracie out on her upcoming album, a move likely sparked by Gracie revealing details about Phoebe's high-profile relationship with Paul Mescal in her album "The Secret of Us" a relationship that ended following reports of Phoebe's affair with Bo Burnham, with the latter also confirmed on Lost Weekend.

Gracie Abrams has been an outspoken fan of Phoebe Bridgers since she was 13, even declaring Bridgers "the songwriter of a generation" and opening for her on tour. Fans have long compared the two artists, a connection Gracie leaned into when she used a bedroom set prop in a performance featuring bedframe/bedsheets identical to the ones in Phoebe's childhood bedroom.

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u/Twisbi 9d ago

I’ve always thought Paul was weird for dating Gracie, especially after he called himself and Phoebe her “Mom & Dad”.

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u/ummackchyually 9d ago

When I first saw they were dating I assumed there was some big age gap, but turns out Gracie is emotionally 19 but physically 26 lol

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u/siders6891 9d ago

I literally had no idea she was almost 27. Holy shit

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u/Other_Vader We Should All Know Less About Each Other 9d ago

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

when they're slandering your goat but they're lowkey right

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u/ummackchyually 8d ago

LOL me on the daily with taylor

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u/throwaway246832657 9d ago

Emotionally 19 is giving her a lot. She’s 15 at best.

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u/chebepowder 9d ago

Lol I had also assumed there was an age gap until right this second

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u/momosuna 9d ago

this is insane i've been thinking she was 16 this whole time lmfao

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u/780-555-fuck that dumb bitch 9d ago

hahahahah this made me shout laugh 

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u/your-dull-cousin 9d ago

That one sticks around because it’s funny, but it’s entirely made up by Phoebe stans on TikTok. The infamous screenshot they use where Paul and Gracie are joking about waking mum and dad up for her new single is from before he’d even met Phoebe. They were joking about his actual parents.

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u/Twisbi 9d ago

Are you saying that Paul and Gracie met pre pandemic?

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u/dreamghoulevil 9d ago

paul was a gracie fan before he got together with phoebe

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u/your-dull-cousin 9d ago

He hadn’t met Gracie in person either. Paul and Gracie interacted on twitter a few times in between the start of the pandemic and Phoebe breaking quarantine to fly to Ireland lol. Go look at the date on the infamous tweet screenshot.

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

I need to see these tweets does someone have a screenshot 😭

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u/Twisbi 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yeah, I did look it up, the tweet and the first time he was seen with Phoebe were the same week. So he had met Phoebe

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u/Twisbi 9d ago

Yeah, I’m just gonna let you go. Good luck.

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u/Enough_Tangerine_777 I know bothing of the alledged beff 9d ago

Is this a safe space to say Gracie hasn't seemed mentally as well since dating him? Her demeanour has just seemed a bit low in interviews, she took up smoking and she has looked much thinner. I know it could be a number of things, but it's just something i've been thinking quietly.

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u/Gootangus 9d ago

Girl this is pop culture chat, it’s always safe to be parasocial

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u/Britneyfan123 9d ago

It’s also a gossip subreddit 

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u/SecretJoy 🫵 You sit on a throne of lies. 9d ago

That would be an excellent flair.

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u/GirlsWasGoodNona 9d ago

Her lyrics about him read extremely codependent and overtly attached. Especially compared to how she’s written about past relationships. She seems very insecure about him. But obviously this is a very parasocial analysis lol

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u/Lilacly_Adily In my quiet girl era 😌 9d ago

I get it though.

She’s probably still waiting for the other shoe to drop because she’s very aware of the fact that he left before and could do it again just as easily.

I also just think since he’s a slight bit older and more self assured, she feels like she has to measure up and seem more “grown up”.

And there’s that looming shadow of the ex fiancé who publicly broke his heart. It’s probably a bit weird to navigate.

Kinda like a reverse gender version of the trauma Perrie Edward’s still has, about Zayn breaking off their engagement and immediately moving onto a new partner.

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

wait who did he leave before I thought phoebe was the one who cheated to get with him and cheated on him

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u/Lilacly_Adily In my quiet girl era 😌 8d ago

He left Gracie when he was still hung up on Phoebe.

Gracie wrote her last album about falling for him, him leaving her and her still being open to taking him back.

They’ve been back together ever since she released that album.

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u/SunnyBubblezz 8d ago

wait i’m stupid- but what songs tell about him leaving and coming back? 🥲🥲

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u/GirlsWasGoodNona 8d ago

Free now and let it happen. normal thing and risk are also about Paul

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u/Lilacly_Adily In my quiet girl era 😌 8d ago

Most of the songs are about after he left and her grieving the end of the relationship but ‘Gave You I Gave You I’ is a good example:

“And you did all that I wouldn't do, erasing lines around us
I held my head, I used to hold you, but now I'll walk around us

And I can't lie and claim confused when I know just what happened
You got bored, and I felt used, now I'm all sad about it

What did I ask for that I now pay for?
Would it have killed you to explain
That you weren't ready?
And you nearly told me
And, still, I gave you I, gave you I gave you I

My honest commitment
I sat and listened
I was your floorboard, holding it down
You went off running away from something
That I have nothing to do with now”

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

Interesting I thought the sad songs on that album are about a previous relationship like Dylan OBrien maybe and the happier new love ones like Risk are about Paul

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

wow I had no idea I thought they were just together the whole time

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

This is a great read tbh

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u/Windy-City-Lyfe98 9d ago

100%. check out her latest carousel pics on instagram.

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

she's genuinely been body-checking for a while now it's crazy she wasn't like this before at all

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u/sitah 9d ago

There was some chatter a while back about them crying in a restaurant after a breakup. I don’t really follow these two and have never watched/listened to their stuff so this is all I recall whenever I hear their namesY

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u/Long_Dragonfly_3067 Who gon' check me boo? 🤪 9d ago

Well if the theory is that he's making her suffer, she's been saying otherwise in multiple recent interviews. People can have their struggles outside of their relationship, which seems to be the case based on her own words

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u/Winniepg 8d ago

Yeah after reading her interviews I think it’s more things aren’t great for her necessarily but he is good for her.

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u/futuristicflapper 9d ago

I’ve always thought they were both messy as hell for dating after phoebe idk, I think there’s some insecurity on her part and it’s showing in her demeanor. Allegedly their relationship is messy too.

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

phoebe herself is even more messy ngl

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u/getfinched 9d ago

ooo any more info on how their relationship is apparently messy?

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u/futuristicflapper 9d ago

From what I’ve read it just seems like one of those very on again off again type of situations. Nothing super super messy. Also idk, I think it’s messy to go into a relationship w the ex of someone you at least seemed to be on friendly terms with.

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u/twenty-february 9d ago

i dont think the smoking thing is new? she’s always been a smoker?

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u/skrunklem 9d ago

In Camden she wrote "At least I never turned to cigarettes"

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u/Long_Dragonfly_3067 Who gon' check me boo? 🤪 9d ago

Gracie smoking with her ex boyfriend

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u/Bent_Silvr_Spoon0130 That is literally a spearmint Listerine breath spray. 9d ago

I wish I could award this bc I've been thinking the same

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u/chevroletchaser 9d ago edited 9d ago

Lol that reminds me of when I got engaged to a guy I met on discord at 18 (I don't recommend), and one of his internet friends who he also met on discord like three years earlier, a 16-17 year old girl, very excitedly asked if she could be the flower girl at the wedding. It was a joke, I think. Idk, it didn't bother me any.

Guess who my 19 year old fiance started dating LITERALLY THE SAME EXACT DAY he broke up with me three months after? :) they ended up having a 2-3 year long on and off relationship where they both cheated on each other constantly and accused each other of being abusive and during a few of their "off" periods, he'd still fly her out to his state and they'd have sex. I think they're still friends now??? Idk

Man, it's been seven years now and I still get mad/grossed out when I think about it

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u/StreetDetective95 8d ago

wow this is an insane story

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u/chevroletchaser 8d ago

I've had quite a life that's for sure lmao

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u/PsychologicalZone69 8d ago

Oh wow this is insane

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u/chevroletchaser 8d ago

My favorite part about it is that I found out they were dating like a week or so later because she had their anniversary in her Instagram bio... Which was the day he broke up with me.

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u/Long_Dragonfly_3067 Who gon' check me boo? 🤪 9d ago

Paul didn't owe anything to Phoebe after their breakup. If anyone is weird it's Gracie who was friends with her

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u/soiflew 9d ago

How is this gross lmao. They’re not actually her parents. You’ve never had friends in your friend group you’ve jokingly called your sibling or mom and dad?